Speaking for myself i've always believed in helping those who cannot help themselves.
I'm a Social Democrat in which I believe in a mixed socialist and capitalist market with an extensive welfare system.
I think it is society and governments job to help the vulnerable and 'weak'.
I would also define myself as quite a moral human being. I'm very anti discrimination of any kind and regularly attend marches in favour of human rights and equality as well as against racism and fascism.
I would like to know your opinion on this matter and whether or not you believe your ethical philosophy directly effects your political philosophy!
(Written at 3am so apologies for anything poorly written.)
I have never attended a human rights march, I just treat all humans with dignity and respect. Be the change you want to see in the world, don't politicize it. Marching is about making you feel good about you it is not about practicing what you preach.
I do not think anybody with a conscience is against helping those that cannot help themselves. I am against enabling those that are actually capable from helping themselves, at the rest of our expense.Speaking for myself i've always believed in helping those who cannot help themselves.
I'm a Social Democrat in which I believe in a mixed socialist and capitalist market with an extensive welfare system.
I think it is society and governments job to help the vulnerable and 'weak'.
I would also define myself as quite a moral human being. I'm very anti discrimination of any kind and regularly attend marches in favour of human rights and equality as well as against racism and fascism.
I would like to know your opinion on this matter and whether or not you believe your ethical philosophy directly effects your political philosophy!
(Written at 3am so apologies for anything poorly written.)
Speaking for myself i've always believed in helping those who cannot help themselves.
I'm a Social Democrat in which I believe in a mixed socialist and capitalist market with an extensive welfare system.
I think it is society and governments job to help the vulnerable and 'weak'.
I would also define myself as quite a moral human being. I'm very anti discrimination of any kind and regularly attend marches in favour of human rights and equality as well as against racism and fascism.
I would like to know your opinion on this matter and whether or not you believe your ethical philosophy directly effects your political philosophy!
(Written at 3am so apologies for anything poorly written.)
Bull****. Such public shows of solidarity accomplish a lot when it comes to social change. It shows people who aren't sure if they should speak out, that it's okay to do so. It shows people who believe something, but don't have anywhere to express it, that there are others working for the same thing. Even further, it shows public officials that there is pushback which forces them to consider their critics. Such effects of marching were plainly evident in the Civil Rights movement. Those demonstrations were essential.Marching is about making you feel good about you it is not about practicing what you preach.
I have never attended a human rights march, I just treat all humans with dignity and respect. Be the change you want to see in the world, don't politicize it. Marching is about making you feel good about you it is not about practicing what you preach.
Bull****. Such public shows of solidarity accomplish a lot when it comes to social change. It shows people who aren't sure if they should speak out, that it's okay to do so. It shows people who believe something, but don't have anywhere to express it, that there are others working for the same thing. Even further, it shows public officials that there is pushback which forces them to consider their critics. Such effects of marching were plainly evident in the Civil Rights movement. Those demonstrations were essential.
It's about actually making pressure for change.
If one was against slavery, simply not having slaves was not enough, one had to fight AGAINST the institution of slavery.
Human rights is political, it always has been. The problem with Aparteid wasn't that whites were simply not friendly, it was the law and the institutions.
Marching didn't end slavery, a long brutal war did.
Speaking for myself i've always believed in helping those who cannot help themselves.
I'm a Social Democrat in which I believe in a mixed socialist and capitalist market with an extensive welfare system.
I think it is society and governments job to help the vulnerable and 'weak'.
I would also define myself as quite a moral human being. I'm very anti discrimination of any kind and regularly attend marches in favour of human rights and equality as well as against racism and fascism.
I would like to know your opinion on this matter and whether or not you believe your ethical philosophy directly effects your political philosophy!
(Written at 3am so apologies for anything poorly written.)
Marching didn't end slavery, a long brutal war did.
I do not think anybody with a conscience is against helping those that cannot help themselves. I am against enabling those that are actually capable from helping themselves, at the rest of our expense.
Does nothing of consequence for those who are capable but unmotivated, hurts them ultimately, and redistributes from those that have earned to those who have not. Not a good message for any concerned. In the meantime, since it is taken from those earning not by their volunteering it, and as they, we, often only have so much to give, there is promoted an unwillingness to give in other areas where it may actually be benefit. Known as trade offs and opportunity costs in economics.
I will answer the last first... I do not think there is always a job in every place for a person that wants one, no. I do think there are lots of jobs generally available, especially if one takes advantage of educational and experiential opportunities. One should strive to match skills to jobs available, be willing to relocate and be also willing to do jobs below what one thinks they should have... I have, several times. Work, honest work, is good for all concerned.I think capable people should be put to a choice. Contribute to society and you can earn certain minimum benefits. If you're curious what I mean by contribute, just ask, please don't assume. If you don't want to contribute, that's your right, but you forfeit your benefits , but as I said, I think this gets muddy when their are children involved.
Where you and I most likely disagree is where the money comes from to provide those benefits. In my perfect world the government would print it's own money (rather than borrow it), but that's a different story with lots of different consequences best saved for a different thread.
Since I'm constrained to work within the current system, I support taxes for this purpose. The redistribution of resources, especially those at the very top. The argument that this isn't optimal seems a silly one. Especially since those at the bottom usually spend all of their money, the allocation of those resources go right back to society at large and in many cases those at the top that were taxed the most have another opportunity to re-earn the money. Furthermore, those at the very top aren't allocating their resources in a way that is best everyone as much of their money is hoarded and invested in ways that have little or any benefit to those in the lower and middle classes.
We live in a groups, families, towns, states nation and ultimately the world. Everyone is better off when others succeed. It is in your best interest to help other succeed. Does that mean that I believe that people should be provided for?
The problem with your response is that it is too often statements like yours are used to justify doing nothing. "the poor are all lazy who don't want to work". Having grown up very poor I know thats not true for most people. Most people aspire to live beyond what welfare provides. My mother was forced to leave school in 6th grade. She new nothing of the experiences of high school or college, how was she supposed to pass that on to me? Now I was fortunate in that I had a family that helped me in those endeavors, but many children don't have what I had.
Do You really beleive that there is a job, in every place for a person that wants one?
I would also define myself as quite a moral human being. I'm very anti discrimination of any kind and regularly attend marches in favour of human rights and equality as well as against racism and fascism.
I would like to know your opinion on this matter and whether or not you believe your ethical philosophy directly effects your political philosophy!
(Written at 3am so apologies for anything poorly written.)
Speaking for myself i've always believed in helping those who cannot help themselves.
I'm a Social Democrat in which I believe in a mixed socialist and capitalist market with an extensive welfare system.
I think it is society and governments job to help the vulnerable and 'weak'.
I would also define myself as quite a moral human being. I'm very anti discrimination of any kind and regularly attend marches in favour of human rights and equality as well as against racism and fascism.
I would like to know your opinion on this matter and whether or not you believe your ethical philosophy directly effects your political philosophy!
(Written at 3am so apologies for anything poorly written.)
I consider myself a moral person as well, and my personal ethics don't really define my political opinions. I support the libertarian platform for the most part, although I am personally conservative wrt my own life. Iow i support the right to choose, in spite of the fact that I would not consider abortion for myself.
I also don't consider the support of social welfare to be a moral issue. Morality concerns one's personal behaviors.
I'm curious, how would you personally define morality?
BTW, its IMPOSSIBLE to not have your political beliefs defined by your ethics, since your ethics are the ground for what political goals or end's one has.
Speaking for myself i've always believed in helping those who cannot help themselves.
I'm a Social Democrat in which I believe in a mixed socialist and capitalist market with an extensive welfare system.
I think it is society and governments job to help the vulnerable and 'weak'.
I would also define myself as quite a moral human being. I'm very anti discrimination of any kind and regularly attend marches in favour of human rights and equality as well as against racism and fascism.
I would like to know your opinion on this matter and whether or not you believe your ethical philosophy directly effects your political philosophy!
(Written at 3am so apologies for anything poorly written.)
Speaking for myself i've always believed in helping those who cannot help themselves.
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