Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?[W: 356]

Arbo said:

You and objective, two peas in a pod. From here on out I'll expect nothing else.

And as an addition to my previous post, yep, I was right, pages more of nonsense...

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ThirdTerm said:

Latin America is made up of "settler colonialist" societies and white privilege does still exist in some Latin American countries such as Chile, where those with European heritage make up the elites of the social structure, and European immigrants are getting preferential treatment just because of their colour of their skin. The US is more matured as a society but white Americans of English descent may still have some built-in advantage due to their cultural affinity to Anglo-Saxon institutions set up by their ancestors and they have to make less effort to integrate and get used to the norms and values of American society compared with other immigrant groups.

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Objective-J said:

well i DEFINITELY agree with part of this, its not UNIVERSAL that why I said multiple times we can argue how much, when and where it takes place but not IF it takes place.


the fact remains it still exists though, its alive and well, relevant and obvious, and more than just having the same hue, in america today.

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Objective-J said:

its this simple

I have a paypal account, ill never post again and give 100$ to anybody that can factually prove white privilege doesnt exist

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Hatuey said:

Depends on the socio-economic context of the country. How was the country founded? What were historical race relations like in those countries? Asking on whether 'white privilege' exists in X country pretty much begs the question: Who lives in the country? In Nigeria, there is no such thing as 'white privilege' because the history of the country has left pretty much no white people. However there exist 'Yoruba privilege' and 'Igbo privilege' as they pretty much run the country. Again, to define whether X group is actually benefiting from privilege you have to first know the country's history and current context. As it stands, in the American context, white privilege certainly exists. However, as I've stated in my post, it's not something you get simply because you're born white. It has to do with bigger historiographical currents that are not immediately obvious.

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Tucker Case said:

Translation of the above: "I haven't got a single intelligent point to make, as usual, so I'm just going to pretend I'm right and that I said something non-useless."

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Arbo said:

You still stuck on stupid I see...

Don't worry, one day you might grow out of it and become useful and worth paying attention to.

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Tucker Case said:

Why are you repeating the same thing over and over again?

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We get, you don't have anything intelligent to say. Don't be so hard on yourself.

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Translation of the above: "I haven't got a single intelligent point to make, as usual, so I'm just going to pretend I'm right and that I said something non-useless."

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Yes, it's always everyone else's fault that you do not have the ability to intelligently support your positions.
You really do not have any ability to comprehend what I wrote, do you? Is English your primary language?

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Ah, so you are incapable of supporting your position intelligently, but refuse to alter your position despite it's foundation of ignorance.

Got it.

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So are you simply unable to answer the question, or are you unwilling to do it?

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ReformCollege said:

In that case we can also argue about the existence of black privilege. It is quite obvious that blacks have lower standards for getting into college and have an easier time getting grant money. Are you denying this exists? It is certainly fact, its just a matter of discussing how much, when and where it takes place but not if it takes place.

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PirateMk1 said:

Can you PROVE empiracally it that "white" privaledge exists?

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Objective-J said:

while i agree that you shouldnt hate all white people for the racist among their race i think its just as illogical to be made at black people that are idiots.

whats it matter if there are black people that are idiots? that shouldn't lead ANY honest, smart, logical person to be racist.

your problem should be with the racist, you dont have to hate them but they are the problem, not SOME black people acting bad.

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Objective-J said:

as i said earlier this isnt an argument the topic is white privileged and its existence is fact.

and also has i have said many times of course im not denying any other type or racism, discrimination, or privileged based on any other color, religion, gender, age, sexuality etc.

also as to your second point i dont think anybody calls this other thing privileged because its based on minority/majority. Of course other things happen but since its the minority people never identified it as such.

ALso i dont know its easier, thats just subjective, im sure there are DEFINITELY cases where it is but easier overall i seriously doubt, again based on numbers.

But in the end not sure what anything has to do with the fact remains it still exists though, its alive and well, relevant and obvious

if you want to discuss a different topic feel free to make that thread too :shrug:

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Arbo said:

hmmm... good question...

I'd suggest it's just because it's what you do...

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Hard Truth said:

Anti-discrimination enforcers test for discrimination by applying for housing and jobs under two names, one white sounding, the other minority sounding, with essentially the same education level, job history, credit history etc. Discrimination is routinely found during these tests.

There are other forms of discrimination invisible to whites in the USA- difficulty getting a cab, being treated worse by police and other authorities, teachers having lower expectations, etc. Whites tend to underestimate the help they get through family/community connections for internships and jobs. Whites, esp. middle class and above, also dress, act and speak "appropriately" as a natural part of their culture. A low income minority person has to learn to adopt these norms to gain acceptance.

Watch white people sometimes when a minority person, esp. a black man enters the scene. Depending on the situation and the people involved, people will act suspicious, grab their belongings, talk differently, get nervous, be over friendly or unfriendly etc.

Yes, there is still a lot of white privilege, there is also a lot of class privilege. It is easy to ignore if you don't pay attention.

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Gipper said:

So you're not denying the existence of black privilege, woman privilege, Latino privilege...

If everyone's privileged, then nobody is privileged - by definition.

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Gipper said:

If everyone's privileged, then nobody is privileged - by definition.

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apdst said:

Because, just as whites dislike white racists that make white folks look like racists, I dislike blacks that make me look like a thug, drug dealer, or a thief. It's not broken logic at all.

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Tucker Case said:

Where the hell did you get that crazy idea from?

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Tucker Case said:

Where the hell did you get that crazy idea from?

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FreedomFromAll said:

Gender, Age, Race/Ethnicity
Among all sheltered individuals over the course of a year (October 2009-September 2010)
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• 62% were male
• 38% were female
• 21.8% are under age 18
• 23.5% are 18-30
• 37% are 31 to 50
• 14.9% are 51 to 61
• 2.8% are 62 or older
• 41.6% are White, Non-Hispanic
• 9.7% are White, Hispanic
• 37% are Black/African-American
• 4.5% are other single races;
• 7.2% are multiple races

http://homeless.samhsa.gov/ResourceFiles/hrc_factsheet.pdf

Homelessness Resource Center

These numbers show that White males are the predominant population that is homeless in the US...

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Gipper said:

From the "crazy idea" that privilege insinuates innate advantage with regard to certain characteristics.

Not everyone can be advantaged, because it means that someone has to be disadvantaged. Everything has an opposite.

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Objective-J said:

How does anybody else make YOU look like a thug, drug dealer or thief if you are not?

Smart, objective, rational, honest people dont think like that.

no OTHER PERSON would ever make YOU look like anything. That would make me plain stupid and retarded to think like that. If i even tried to think that way logic would kick me right in the balls to wake me up.

its clealry broken logic because its irrational

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Objective-J said:

not "everyone" is advantaged though so his question still stands

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Objective-J said:

if you say so, fact still remains you changes nothing and my statement stands

now you are just making stuff up, i dont understand it because it MEANINGLESS, disagree, prove its meaning, you made the statement simply back it up LMAO

the most telling part is you NEVER back up your claims, hardly/barley answer questions and when asked to support your posts, you dodge it

not looking for you admiration or desire since you cant be hones, support your claims, participate in logic/civil debate and you ignore facts :shrug:

dont like the results the solution is easy, be honest and or able to support your false statements with logic, reality or facts

good luck!

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apdst said:

You've lived a very sheltered life, sir.

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