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Does the US Navy still throw trash into the ocean?

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When I went on a short cruise on an aircraft carrier, I was part of a group from the squadron I was attached to that was told to throw plastic garbage bags full of trash off the back of the boat. The trash was supposed to exclude certain items, but I knew there was trash in those bags that wasn't supposed to be thrown into the ocean.
 
For a long time it was believed that they oceans were so massive that we'd never have a problem. The only thing slower than the ability of salt water to break down garbage is the increase of knowledge.
 
You seem to have a real rage boner for the Navy today.
 
Antiwar said:
When I went on a short cruise on an aircraft carrier, I was part of a group from the squadron I was attached to that was told to throw plastic garbage bags full of trash off the back of the boat. The trash was supposed to exclude certain items, but I knew there was trash in those bags that wasn't supposed to be thrown into the ocean.
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It is not just the US Navy, plenty of naval groups both military and civilian have policy (for lack of a better way to say it) in discarding things at sea.

My suggestion is to shuffle over to the UN and see if they have any ****s to give and/or any real means to enforce anything.
 
OrphanSlug said:
It is not just the US Navy, plenty of naval groups both military and civilian have policy (for lack of a better way to say it) in discarding things at sea.

My suggestion is to shuffle over to the UN and see if they have any ****s to give and/or any real means to enforce anything.
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You'd think that our illustrious President would insist that they set a good example.
 
Antiwar said:
When I went on a short cruise on an aircraft carrier, I was part of a group from the squadron I was attached to that was told to throw plastic garbage bags full of trash off the back of the boat. The trash was supposed to exclude certain items, but I knew there was trash in those bags that wasn't supposed to be thrown into the ocean.
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The Navy was required to keep certain trash onboard even in 1997 when I retired.

Certain trash as in Mess Decks (food) is fine going overboard. Oily rags, plastics, and hazmat is not.

Do people make mistakes, or get a "I don't give a shit attitude"........sure.

But overall, the Navy has come a long long way.

Some Navy ships today have systems to grind up or incinerate trash.
 
Tlrmln said:
You'd think that our illustrious President would insist that they set a good example.
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Why is this all of a sudden an issue? With everything else going on why now? You guys bored?
 
Non-conformists have been launched from the fantail as well……
 
My best story about trash on a carrier is female head trash. For those who can't figure it out, it is treated special, for a reason (we also weren't allowed to throw our used/empty containers in it, that had to go into the regular berthing trash). Female head trash is labeled as such, since it does require special handling and isn't supposed to be gone through (which should be for obvious reasons). This guy manning the trash drop off one day went to open our head trash and we were saying "NO!!!, you aren't supposed to do that, do you know what's in there?". His response was "it's okay, I'm married". EeeeeWWWW

But yes, we have shredders, compactors and incinerators onboard for those trash types that are not supposed to be thrown overboard or just to reduce what is getting thrown overboard. Yes, there are rules and there are people who are supposed to follow those rules. <Cringe still from the "married" guy above though>
 
I called dibs on the Pacific Garbage Flotilla.
 
Antiwar said:
When I went on a short cruise on an aircraft carrier, I was part of a group from the squadron I was attached to that was told to throw plastic garbage bags full of trash off the back of the boat. The trash was supposed to exclude certain items, but I knew there was trash in those bags that wasn't supposed to be thrown into the ocean.
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Bags of trash with stuff that shouldn't be in them?

How about Superfund sites before there was an EPA to make them Superfund sites?

This isn't a navy issue. It's a human issue of blindly stupid selfishness. It's also why every single "regulations are bad" (as a naked principal) post is horrifically moronic.
 
Mr Person said:
Bags of trash with stuff that shouldn't be in them?
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Yes. The Navy trashes the ocean.

Mr Person said:
How about Superfund sites before there was an EPA to make them Superfund sites?
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"There are over 600 military sites that are Superfund sites, according to the U.S. Department of Defense. A Superfund site is an area that has been contaminated by hazardous materials, according to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), which then plans for the site's cleanup process."

Then there are the aerospace companies that often worked for the military.

Mr Person said:
This isn't a navy issue. It's a human issue of blindly stupid selfishness. It's also why every single "regulations are bad" (as a naked principal) post is horrifically moronic.
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Hey, like, right on, mannn.
 
Antiwar said:
Yes. The Navy trashes the ocean.



"There are over 600 military sites that are Superfund sites, according to the U.S. Department of Defense. A Superfund site is an area that has been contaminated by hazardous materials, according to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), which then plans for the site's cleanup process."

Then there are the aerospace companies that often worked for the military.



Hey, like, right on, mannn.
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There are over 51,000 commercial ships around the world, and a majority of them trash the ocean every single day.

But you have a "hard on" for the US Navy with like 490 ships.

Cruise lines do a great job with trash, but container & cargo vessels could give a shit about your stupid anti Navy crusade.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Why is this all of a sudden an issue? With everything else going on why now? You guys bored?
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I didn't make an issue of it, I just read the thread and responded.
 
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