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Does the GOP still 'gotta sit in back'?

Does the GOP still 'gotta sit in back'


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Goobieman

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With the 2010 midterm results just about complete, its clear the GOP won big.

Just prior to the election - 10-25-2010 - The Obama declared:

"we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
Obama Tells Republicans to 'Sit in Back' - FoxNews.com

Is this true? Does the GOP still 'gotta sit in back'?

Please do try to support your response.
 
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That, or fighting for the wheel.
 
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Nope. Obama has some arrogance. If nothing else, I'd like to see the House do the "party of no" thing again and just blockade Obama from making any major decision for two years. He deserves nothing less.

He's already taken a bad situation and made it exponentially worse.

The man has some nerve to take a Democratic supermajority in Congress and pass every pet project he could possibly muster, then at a time when Democratic House control was practically guaranteed to switch, start preaching about bipartisanship and working together.

He deserves a fist in his smug f'n face.
 

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Nope. Obama has some arrogance. If nothing else, I'd like to see the House do the "party of no" thing again and just blockade Obama from making any major decision for two years. He deserves nothing less.

He's already taken a bad situation and made it exponentially worse.

The man has some nerve to take a Democratic supermajority in Congress and pass every pet project he could possibly muster, then at a time when Democratic House control was practically guaranteed to switch, start preaching about bipartisanship and working together.

He deserves a fist in his smug f'n face.
What pet projects? The bail outs shored up the collapsing banking industry, which you sort of need to have an economy, and the regulation reform was the obligatory response to the strain caused by excessive speculation in Wall Street. The stimulus was the obligatory response to the recession. Health care reform the obligatory response to inflated prices in that industry outpacing the ability of middle class Americans to pay. His entire Administration has been a series of obligatory actions.

Government isn't nearly as dramatic as people pretend.
 
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I guess we have differences in our definitions of "obligatory".

Absolutely nothing you just stated I would define as such.
 

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The stimulus was the obligatory response to the recession. Health care reform the obligatory response to inflated prices in that industry outpacing the ability of middle class Americans to pay. His entire Administration has been a series of obligatory actions.
As there were alternatives to both, nothing -necesitated- either of those actions, and so neither were "obligatory".
 

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I guess we have differences in our definitions of "obligatory".

Absolutely nothing you just stated I would define as such.
I wonder if the Republican Party would have if they'd held power. Better yet, I wonder if conservatives would have praised Obama for the fall out of the collapsing financial sector. Would they have said letting Wall Street fail would have been a noble and great thing?

As there were alternatives to both, nothing -necesitated- either of those actions, and so neither were "obligatory".
We need health care reform. The middle class is the gold standard. If they can't pay, then something is wrong. And the private sector doesn't like investing in anything during recessions, which prolongs recessions and turns them into depressions. Thus the government has to start pooling in money. All the Republican Administrations of the later 20th century said the same thing.

Bear in the mind the reason the housing sector was so popular was that it was sure to make a profit. It's like gaming that slot machine in a casino that is busted to turn out the big bucks. Then the security guards come by and you have to high tail it out of there. When industries are no longer sure to make a profit, nobody in the private sector wants to invest in them. But if no money is moving, no new opportunities are discovered, and without opportunities to exploit, economic activity stagnates.

In the abstract, none of these are "pet projects." Some of the programs they constitute might be pet projects of different Democrats. But most of them didn't originate with Obama.
 
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We need health care reform, and the private sector doesn't like investing in anything during recessions, which prolongs recessions and excaberates them into depressions.
This doesnt negate what I said - in fact, that we still need health care reform only proves it correct.
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With the 2010 midterm results just about complete, its clear the GOP won big.

Just prior to the election - 10-25-2010 - The Obama declared:



Obama Tells Republicans to 'Sit in Back' - FoxNews.com

Is this true? Does the GOP still 'gotta sit in back'?

Please do try to support your response.
It was a stupid talking point trying to garner up some base support. To take it any further than that seems silly to me...
 

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It was a stupid talking point trying to garner up some base support. To take it any further than that seems silly to me...
So... He was pandering?
 

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This doesnt negate what I said - in fact, that we still need health care reform only proves it correct.
:shrug:
Whether or not we still need health care reform is a question mark because the program has taken effect yet. Luckily for Republicans, impatience moves faster than reform.
 

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Whether or not we still need health care reform is a question mark because the program has taken effect yet. Luckily for Republicans, impatience moves faster than reform.
Your statemeent:

We need health care reform...
Do we or don't we?
 
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