Does Kamala HArris need a black man in her life?

[Lutherf]

I saw a clip from AM Joy on another site but it was all edited up so I wanted to see it in context.

I don't know if this link will work for everyone (anyone). I had to sign in to the site using my cable TV provider info. My guess is that if you can't get at it now it will be on YouTube or something in the near future.

AM Joy on MSNBC

Anyway, starting at around the 40 minute mark the panel starts talking about Harris and her record on prosecutions. That lead to a comment from one of the females (at right near 43 minutes) to the effect of "Kamala needs a blue collar, self made black man in her corner". Another panelist follows that up a few seconds later by noting that her husband isn't going to be the guy to support her with the black community. He husband, as most know, is white.

So, question #1 - Does Kamala Harris need to downplay the fact that her husband is white and surround herself with more blacks?

Question #2 - Am I the only one who finds it strange that a few minutes before the whole panel was talking about how "identity politics" was just a catch phrase to keep black people down and then they went in to this like 15 minutes later?

 

[beefheart]

I saw a clip from AM Joy on another site but it was all edited up so I wanted to see it in context.

I don't know if this link will work for everyone (anyone). I had to sign in to the site using my cable TV provider info. My guess is that if you can't get at it now it will be on YouTube or something in the near future.

AM Joy on MSNBC

Anyway, starting at around the 40 minute mark the panel starts talking about Harris and her record on prosecutions. That lead to a comment from one of the females (at right near 43 minutes) to the effect of "Kamala needs a blue collar, self made black man in her corner". Another panelist follows that up a few seconds later by noting that her husband isn't going to be the guy to support her with the black community. He husband, as most know, is white.

So, question #1 - Does Kamala Harris need to downplay the fact that her husband is white and surround herself with more blacks?

Question #2 - Am I the only one who finds it strange that a few minutes before the whole panel was talking about how "identity politics" was just a catch phrase to keep black people down and then they went in to this like 15 minutes later?

Really?

This is the kind of crap you need to post?

What the hell?

 

[noonereal]

I saw a clip from AM Joy on another site but it was all edited up so I wanted to see it in context.

I don't know if this link will work for everyone (anyone). I had to sign in to the site using my cable TV provider info. My guess is that if you can't get at it now it will be on YouTube or something in the near future.

AM Joy on MSNBC

Anyway, starting at around the 40 minute mark the panel starts talking about Harris and her record on prosecutions. That lead to a comment from one of the females (at right near 43 minutes) to the effect of "Kamala needs a blue collar, self made black man in her corner". Another panelist follows that up a few seconds later by noting that her husband isn't going to be the guy to support her with the black community. He husband, as most know, is white.

So, question #1 - Does Kamala Harris need to downplay the fact that her husband is white and surround herself with more blacks?

Question #2 - Am I the only one who finds it strange that a few minutes before the whole panel was talking about how "identity politics" was just a catch phrase to keep black people down and then they went in to this like 15 minutes later?

Stupid questions, stupid thread.

Do you need pink shades in your bedroom? same thing.

 

[Grokmaster]

Stupid questions, stupid thread.

Do you need pink shades in your bedroom? same thing.

So AM Joy is stupid. OK.

 

[Lutherf]

So AM Joy is stupid. OK.

That's what I like about discussions like this. The second you bring up something that might go against the grain you're deemed an idiot for even listening to the thought....as expressed by a well known black woman...on a well known liberal news station.

 

[poweRob]

I saw a clip from AM Joy on another site but it was all edited up so I wanted to see it in context.

I don't know if this link will work for everyone (anyone). I had to sign in to the site using my cable TV provider info. My guess is that if you can't get at it now it will be on YouTube or something in the near future.

AM Joy on MSNBC

Anyway, starting at around the 40 minute mark the panel starts talking about Harris and her record on prosecutions. That lead to a comment from one of the females (at right near 43 minutes) to the effect of "Kamala needs a blue collar, self made black man in her corner". Another panelist follows that up a few seconds later by noting that her husband isn't going to be the guy to support her with the black community. He husband, as most know, is white.

So, question #1 - Does Kamala Harris need to downplay the fact that her husband is white and surround herself with more blacks?

Question #2 - Am I the only one who finds it strange that a few minutes before the whole panel was talking about how "identity politics" was just a catch phrase to keep black people down and then they went in to this like 15 minutes later?

I'm starting to think perhaps you may need a strong black man in your life.

 

[Grokmaster]

That's what I like about discussions like this. The second you bring up something that might go against the grain you're deemed an idiot for even listening to the thought....as expressed by a well known black woman...on a well known liberal news station.

And it wasn't YOUR THOUGHT..it was brought up by the radio hosts, you just opened it for discussion....go figure....

 

[Lutherf]

I'm starting to think perhaps you may need a strong black man in your life.

If you're volunteering I need to let you know up front that I'm straight. However, I do like beer so as long as you're willing to keep things platonic and sports bar centric I'm in....as long as you're buying at least 51% of the time.

 

[poweRob]

If you're volunteering I need to let you know up front that I'm straight. However, I do like beer so as long as you're willing to keep things platonic and sports bar centric I'm in....as long as you're buying at least 51% of the time.

I'd volunteer but... even though my last name is very prominent in the black community, I am as cracker as they come.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

I'm starting to think perhaps you may need a strong black man in your life.

Nice shot! :thumbs:

If you're volunteering I need to let you know up front that I'm straight. However, I do like beer so as long as you're willing to keep things platonic and sports bar centric I'm in....as long as you're buying at least 51% of the time.

Excellent retort! :applaud

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

I saw a clip from AM Joy on another site but it was all edited up so I wanted to see it in context.

I don't know if this link will work for everyone (anyone). I had to sign in to the site using my cable TV provider info. My guess is that if you can't get at it now it will be on YouTube or something in the near future.

AM Joy on MSNBC

Anyway, starting at around the 40 minute mark the panel starts talking about Harris and her record on prosecutions. That lead to a comment from one of the females (at right near 43 minutes) to the effect of "Kamala needs a blue collar, self made black man in her corner". Another panelist follows that up a few seconds later by noting that her husband isn't going to be the guy to support her with the black community. He husband, as most know, is white.

So, question #1 - Does Kamala Harris need to downplay the fact that her husband is white and surround herself with more blacks?

Question #2 - Am I the only one who finds it strange that a few minutes before the whole panel was talking about how "identity politics" was just a catch phrase to keep black people down and then they went in to this like 15 minutes later?

People in the Black community who care about such things don't care if a Black woman marries a White man. They don't like it when successful Black men marry White women (Clarence Thomas).

I guess with successful Black women it's understood that it's hard to find a Black man who is also successful. But a Black man has plenty of options so it's seen as a rejection of his race when he marries outside.

But these attitudes are changing and only a minority of Black people care at all as long as they see that you are proud of who you are and not trying to be something else.

 

[Lutherf]

People in the Black community who care about such things don't care if a Black woman marries a White man. They don't like it when successful Black men marry White women (Clarence Thomas).

I guess with successful Black women it's understood that it's hard to find a Black man who is also successful. But a Black man has plenty of options so it's seen as a rejection of his race when he marries outside.

But these attitudes are changing and only a minority of Black people care at all as long as they see that you are proud of who you are and not trying to be something else.

Y'know...about 95% of what I read from you is marginal at best but this response sure seems honest and, perhaps, even expresses a bit of relational insight. Thank you!

Taking that response a step farther, do you think Harris will increase her chances of winning the election if she spends more time embracing her "blackness" or if she spends more time talking about issues of state rather than issues of race?

 

[bullseyelqcs]

People in the Black community who care about such things don't care if a Black woman marries a White man. They don't like it when successful Black men marry White women (Clarence Thomas).

I guess with successful Black women it's understood that it's hard to find a Black man who is also successful. But a Black man has plenty of options so it's seen as a rejection of his race when he marries outside.

But these attitudes are changing and only a minority of Black people care at all as long as they see that you are proud of who you are and not trying to be something else.

When I was in high school, there was this guy named James who thought he was the second coming of Malcom X. Used to call white women cave bitches and everything. I happened to be dating a white girl, and one day at lunch, he asked me the following question:

"How can you stand to be with that cave bitch when there are strong black women right here at this school you could be with?"

Now, for some perspective.....we went to a school with 2200 students, and when we had a meeting for the minority kids (and that meant anyone who wasn't white, not just the black kids) we were in one classroom and we all had desks, with some to spare. So his allegation was faulty on its surface, as the number of black girls left you with fingers to spare when counting. It was also off because the girls who WERE there, all seemed to have what I grew to call Nefertiti Complex. That was the idea that simply being black meant a guy was supposed to treat them like queens, no matter how ratchet they themselves acted or carried themselves. I didn't have time for that ****. Also, I wasn't considered "black" enough for most of them anyway.....I had a 3.8 GPA, my clothes fit me properly, and I could speak in a complete sentence without the use of the word yo, um or cuz.

My response to James when he asked me that question actually left him speechless. Here is what I said back to him:

"Well James, I'm gonna put it in a way you simply can't argue. You fancy yourself a math guy, so here is my response.....we are going to pretend the world is black and white. 50/50 split, right down the middle. We are also going to pretend that it is a perfect split gender wise. That means that 25% of the population is black women and 25% is white women. Now, I ask you to answer this question as simply as you can.....statistically, which of us is more likely to find the person most suited for us? You, who are only looking in 50% of the population of women to choose from, or me, with the entirety of that group? When you answer that question, you will hopefully understand why I am a tad more open minded than you."

My point was that it is quite possible that the right person for James could actually have been a white woman and he never would have realized it.

In order to be the best person she can be, Ms. Harris needs whomever it is that brings out the best in her and supports those efforts. White, black or otherwise.

 

[Middle_Ground]

I saw a clip from AM Joy on another site but it was all edited up so I wanted to see it in context.

I don't know if this link will work for everyone (anyone). I had to sign in to the site using my cable TV provider info. My guess is that if you can't get at it now it will be on YouTube or something in the near future.

AM Joy on MSNBC

Anyway, starting at around the 40 minute mark the panel starts talking about Harris and her record on prosecutions. That lead to a comment from one of the females (at right near 43 minutes) to the effect of "Kamala needs a blue collar, self made black man in her corner". Another panelist follows that up a few seconds later by noting that her husband isn't going to be the guy to support her with the black community. He husband, as most know, is white.

So, question #1 - Does Kamala Harris need to downplay the fact that her husband is white and surround herself with more blacks?

Question #2 - Am I the only one who finds it strange that a few minutes before the whole panel was talking about how "identity politics" was just a catch phrase to keep black people down and then they went in to this like 15 minutes later?

I'm going to answer your question even though I think it dishonest one if you watched the whole thing on am joy.

The comment on need for a strong black male surrogate had nothing to do with her husband.
They were saying she needs strong black males to come out and speak for her because the person she brought up (not a black man) in the interview was a big civil rights leader and he had penned some not so flattering editorials about her during her time as prosecutor in California.
They were saying she needs someone to speak on her behalf to counter act the negatives of her record as prosecutor.
I have no idea why this became about her husband.
I thought all candidates had surrogates.
But then again maybe you wanted to talk about mixed race marriages and all the other bull****.

 

[Lutherf]

I'm going to answer your question even though I think it dishonest one if you watched the whole thing on am joy.

The comment on need for a strong black male surrogate had nothing to do with her husband.
They were saying she needs strong black males to come out and speak for her because the person she brought up (not a black man) in the interview was a big civil rights leader and he had penned some not so flattering editorials about her during her time as prosecutor in California.
They were saying she needs someone to speak on her behalf to counter act the negatives of her record as prosecutor.
I have no idea why this became about her husband.
I thought all candidates had surrogates.
But then again maybe you wanted to talk about mixed race marriages and all the other bull****.

I didn't bring her husband up. One of the panel members did. I also wasn't the one who went on a rant about how "identity politics" was some kind of derogatory, white person speak and then, 10 minutes later, started to talk about how important it was to have "people that look like us" speaking at our side.

 

[beefheart]

And it wasn't YOUR THOUGHT..it was brought up by the radio hosts, you just opened it for discussion....go figure....

 

[Fishking]

Really?

This is the kind of crap you need to post?

What the hell?

It's mainstream discussion among the left, if you don't like it, call them out for it.

 

[beefheart]

It's mainstream discussion among the left, if you don't like it, call them out for it.

Sounds like you need a black man in your life too.

 

[Fishking]

Sounds like you need a black man in your life too.

Sounds like you don't actually have a valid response. I'm not shocked.

 

[marke]

Really?

This is the kind of crap you need to post?

What the hell?

If Kamala cannot handle the heat she needs to get out of the kitchen. It was the black guests on Joy's show expressing common black sentiments about her "black man problem." She does need to deal with questions from influential blacks about her commitment to blacks and she needs to express herself on black racism and insensitivities.

 

[TurtleDude]

Y'know...about 95% of what I read from you is marginal at best but this response sure seems honest and, perhaps, even expresses a bit of relational insight. Thank you!

Taking that response a step farther, do you think Harris will increase her chances of winning the election if she spends more time embracing her "blackness" or if she spends more time talking about issues of state rather than issues of race?

doesn't she have several ethnicities she can embrace-when the political whims require it?

 

[bullseyelqcs]

doesn't she have several ethnicities she can embrace-when the political whims require it?

 

[TurtleDude]

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why would I be mad when so many lefties are lionizing an intellectual lightweight whose main qualifications seem to be the fact she can fill many ethnic quota slots.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

why would I be mad when so many lefties are lionizing an intellectual lightweight whose main qualifications seem to be the fact she can fill many ethnic quota slots.

Who's lionized her?

She tossed her hat in the ring for the Presidency. That makes her news. Covering news is not lionizing someone.

And lets not talk about intellectual lightweights.....the biggest one to ever win an election is sitting in the White House right now.

Talk about lionized.

 

[TurtleDude]

Who's lionized her?

She tossed her hat in the ring for the Presidency. That makes her news. Covering news is not lionizing someone.

And lets not talk about intellectual lightweights.....the biggest one to ever win an election is sitting in the White House right now.

Talk about lionized.

so you are able to compare Trump's intellect with presidents who served in the 1800s? I think you are just making that comparison up