I haven't read the article...religious issues just don't interest me all that much. But something you said that is non-religious caught my attention...and I have a question: Is a school district a "government"? I know school districts can levy taxes, but does that make them a government?If you're being payed by the government you can't lead prayers while acting in your official capacity. On the football field as a coach he's on the taxpayer's dime. He can't lead prayers.
The simple solution is to have a student athlete lead the prayers but that would make sense.
The coach is paid by the taxpayers through the school district. I consider that government.I haven't read the article...religious issues just don't interest me all that much. But something you said that is non-religious caught my attention...and I have a question: Is a school district a "government"? I know school districts can levy taxes, but does that make them a government?
I'm not trying to be oppositional here. I'm just asking about something I don't know.
btw, I agree with your simple solution.
But they shouldn't be able to on taxpayer funded property.The coach is paid by the taxpayers through the school district. I consider that government.
The problem is taxpayers of many faiths contribute to the school district and thereby to the coach's salary. So if he's leading prayers of one faith, he's a government employee favoring one religion over others. Can't do that. The kids can pray all they like to whatever god strikes their fancy.
You mean the students shouldn't be able to pray on taxpayer funded property?But they shouldn't be able to on taxpayer funded property.
If these pinhead imbeciles want to worship their sky fairies off school property that's fine, but not on something that I'm helping to pay for.
I haven't read the article...religious issues just don't interest me all that much. But something you said that is non-religious caught my attention...and I have a question: Is a school district a "government"? I know school districts can levy taxes, but does that make them a government?
I'm not trying to be oppositional here. I'm just asking about something I don't know.
btw, I agree with your simple solution.
Yeah, no. I prayed before many tests in high school. There were lunch tables that said grace together everyday. Private citizens have freedom of religion and may pray wherever they wish.Correct!
They can engage in their primitive rituals at home, in churches, synagogues and mosques but not in publicly funded institutions.
Not in my America. Having said that I recognize that there's no way to stop someone from praying silently anywhere but if you're going to have an idiot-fest in public with any kind of organization, you better do it elsewhere or be prepared to get fined or otherwise sanctioned.Yeah, no. I prayed before many tests in high school. There were lunch tables that said grace together everyday. Private citizens have freedom of religion and may pray wherever they wish.
If you're being payed by the government you can't lead prayers while acting in your official capacity. On the football field as a coach he's on the taxpayer's dime. He can't lead prayers.
The simple solution is to have a student athlete lead the prayers but that would make sense.
Bingo! As it well should be.That (bolded above) is nonsense which would make having publicly funded chaplains unconstitutional.
https://www.federalpay.org/employees/occupations/chaplain/2017
Okay. Thanks.Yes, it is well established that public schools and their employees are the government.
Correct!
They can engage in their primitive rituals at home, in churches, synagogues and mosques but not in publicly funded institutions.
Wait. Does that mean that when I'm out in a national forest and, if I come face to face with a mountain lion, I can't suddenly get religion and pray to some god while I'm shitting my pants?But they shouldn't be able to on taxpayer funded property.
If these pinhead imbeciles want to worship their sky fairies off school property that's fine, but not on something that I'm helping to pay for.
Like I said, no one can stop them from engaging in this nonsense privately and in silence, but if they're doing this vocally and/or in an organized fashion, I believe the school district has a right (and a responsibility) to tell them to take it off school grounds.You can't tell students that they can't pray when they're on school property.
Like I said, no one can stop them from engaging in this nonsense privately and in silence, but if they're doing this vocally and/or in an organized fashion, I believe the school district has a right (and a responsibility) to tell them to take it off school grounds.
Yup. We live in a backward society that allows for this crap. As a practical matter, you're correct. But it shouldn't be.Well, you're wrong. They don't have to do it silently or in private.
Yup. We live in a backward society that allows for this crap. As a practical matter, you're correct. But it shouldn't be.
Yes, it is well established that public schools and their employees are the government.
Because it effectively establishes one acceptable religion. What should Jews, Muslims and atheists do while this is going on. It's effectively religious bullying. Duh.Why? What is wrong with a group of teachers having a huddle before the day starts and saying a prayer?
Because it effectively establishes one acceptable religion. What should Jews, Muslims and atheists do while this is going on. It's effectively religious bullying. Duh.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Because it effectively establishes one acceptable religion. What should Jews, Muslims and atheists do while this is going on. It's effectively religious bullying. Duh.
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