Does Anyone On The Right Actually Understand Kirk Was Assassinated Because of Them?

[j brown's body]

Using the logic of "Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?," how many on the right have some level of understanding that Kirk's assassination wouldn't have happened, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for demagoguery against members of our communities and political figures? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing? after all, we know that demagoguery appeals to emotion, and people act on emotion. Many demagogues have been assassinated. Did you just go too far, with everything?

So are they to blame for their own misfortune just as the Dems are for theirs?

 

[Gozaburo]

Using the logic of "Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?," how many on the right have some level of understanding that Kirk's assassination wouldn't have happened, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for demagoguery against members of our communities and political figures? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing? after all, we know that demagoguery appeals to emotion, and people act on emotion. Many demagogues have been assassinated. Did you just go too far, with everything?

So are they to blame for their own misfortune just as the Dems are for theirs?

I suppose this would make sense if Charlie Kirk was this truly radical individual. Charlie Kirk would've been considered a moderate conservative even during the Bush years. His politics were relatively benign and while I didn't care for his platform, he did politics in the way you're supposed to in a liberal democracy - political action, organizing, and debate.

Was he a demagogue? Probably, but that's more a problem with the low agency democracy we have where stupid, impulsive, low agency voters are preyed on by the lowest common denominator.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Charlie Kirk would've been considered a moderate conservative even during the Bush years.

Do "moderate conservatives" during those years say that homosexuals are an abomination deserving of death?

Doesn't sound real "moderate"?

 

[Elmo]

I suppose this would make sense if Charlie Kirk was this truly radical individual. Charlie Kirk would've been considered a moderate conservative even during the Bush years. His politics were relatively benign and while I didn't care for his platform, he did politics in the way you're supposed to in a liberal democracy - political action, organizing, and debate.

Was he a demagogue? Probably, but that's more a problem with the low agency democracy we have where stupid, impulsive, low agency voters are preyed on by the lowest common denominator.

No, he was not a moderate. This posthumous whitewashing is ridiculous and desperate

 

[Gozaburo]

Do "moderate conservatives" during those years say that homosexuals are an abomination deserving of death?

Doesn't sound real "moderate"?

I'm not familiar with any time Charlie Kirk called homosexuals abominations deserving of death, observed within context.

He was certainly against homosexuality and perhaps even making homosexual unions illegal, which was something even Obama supported in 2008.

 

[Gozaburo]

No, he was not a moderate. This posthumous whitewashing is ridiculous and desperate

You can argue the Overton window shifted back rightwards all you want and you'd probably be correct, but Charlie Kirk's politics were moderate by the standard of conservative politics.

 

[KevinKohler]

Do "moderate conservatives" during those years say that homosexuals are an abomination deserving of death?

Doesn't sound real "moderate"?

What do you hope to gain by demonizing Kirk? What's your angle?

Every thread about him, there you are, beating that drum tirelessly. Why?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

What do you hope to gain by demonizing Kirk?

"Demonizing"?

Is that how you see it? When a person quotes what Kirk said?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I'm not familiar with any time Charlie Kirk called homosexuals abominations deserving of death, observed within context.

He was certainly against homosexuality and perhaps even making homosexual unions illegal, which was something even Obama supported in 2008.

Its really irrelevant to me what Barack Obama thinks about it or thought about it in 2008.

I disagree with Barack Obama on numerous things. But I know that Obama didn't say that gays are an abomination.

They're humans.

 

[Sweden]

What do you hope to gain by demonizing Kirk? What's your angle?

Every thread about him, there you are, beating that drum tirelessly. Why?

Exactly. There is but one person to blame for Kirk's death and that's the man who killed him.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

He was certainly against homosexuality and perhaps even making homosexual unions illegal

I guess there was at least one homosexual not real open to Charlies message?

Yeahhhhhh.

 

[j brown's body]

Exactly. There is but one person to blame for Kirk's death and that's the man who killed him.

True, in the main. But we know demagoguery breeds violence. Should Maga have thought twice before embracing it? Should they have considered that it might come back to haunt them?

I'm not familiar with any time Charlie Kirk called homosexuals abominations deserving of death, observed within context.

He was certainly against homosexuality and perhaps even making homosexual unions illegal, which was something even Obama supported in 2008.

Band there is so much more demagoguery.

Charlie Kirk: “Kamala Harris seeks to kidnap your child via the trans agenda”

Charlie Kirk says the Left will use Islam to bring down America

Charlie Kirk: “Haiti is legitimately infested with demonic voodoo” that allows practitioners to do “quasi-levitation stuff”

Charlie Kirk warns that Haitian migrants “will become your masters” if Trump loses the election

Charlie Kirk: “The southern border is, of course, the great replacement. They're trying to replace us demographically. They're trying to make the country less white.”

Charlie Kirk defends Elon Musk's antisemitism: “Some of the largest financiers of left-wing anti-white causes have been Jewish Americans”

On YouTube, Charlie Kirk calls for men to confront and physically prevent trans student athletes from competing

Charlie Kirk: Joe Biden should be “put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America”

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Exactly. There is but one person to blame for Kirk's death and that's the man who killed him.

I never said otherwise.

 

[pragmatic]

Do "moderate conservatives" during those years say that homosexuals are an abomination deserving of death?

Doesn't sound real "moderate"?

Snopes disagrees:

Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said gay people should be stoned to death.
Rating:

False
About this rating
Context
Kirk was reacting to YouTube personality Ms. Rachel quoting the Bible to explain why she supported Pride Month. Kirk referred to another verse from the Bible about stoning people to death to demonstrate that Ms. Rachel was being selective in her quotations.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Snopes disagrees:

Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said gay people should be stoned to death.
Rating:

False
About this rating
Context
Kirk was reacting to YouTube personality Ms. Rachel quoting the Bible to explain why she supported Pride Month. Kirk referred to another verse from the Bible about stoning people to death to demonstrate that Ms. Rachel was being selective in her quotations.

"There's a direct connection to inflation and the trans issue. You say, Charlie, come on. They couldn't be further apart. No, they're exactly the same. They're the same in this aspect—when you believe that men can become women, why wouldn't you also believe that you could print wealth? If you believe that someone can change their gender, why wouldn't you also believe that money is wealth?"

 

[lynnwinslow]

Snopes disagrees:

Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said gay people should be stoned to death.
Rating:

False
About this rating
Context
Kirk was reacting to YouTube personality Ms. Rachel quoting the Bible to explain why she supported Pride Month. Kirk referred to another verse from the Bible about stoning people to death to demonstrate that Ms. Rachel was being selective in her quotations.

Please post the link to the entire Snopes’ assessment. Thanks.

 

[j brown's body]

Snopes disagrees:

Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said gay people should be stoned to death.
Rating:

False
About this rating
Context
Kirk was reacting to YouTube personality Ms. Rachel quoting the Bible to explain why she supported Pride Month. Kirk referred to another verse from the Bible about stoning people to death to demonstrate that Ms. Rachel was being selective in her quotations.

And added. "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.."

 

[pragmatic]

"There's a direct connection to inflation and the trans issue. You say, Charlie, come on. They couldn't be further apart. No, they're exactly the same. They're the same in this aspect—when you believe that men can become women, why wouldn't you also believe that you could print wealth? If you believe that someone can change their gender, why wouldn't you also believe that money is wealth?"

Just to clarify.

Does your post relate to Kirk claiming gays should be killed? Or are we changing the topic?

(Am willing to go with either direction...)

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[pragmatic]

Please post the link to the entire Snopes’ assessment. Thanks.

Feel free to google it. Worked for me.

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[lynnwinslow]

Feel free to google it. Worked for me.

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If you want everyone with critical thinking skills to think your comment was a lie by omission, you do you.

 

[roberthughey]

Using the logic of "Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?," how many on the right have some level of understanding that Kirk's assassination wouldn't have happened, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for demagoguery against members of our communities and political figures? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing? after all, we know that demagoguery appeals to emotion, and people act on emotion. Many demagogues have been assassinated. Did you just go too far, with everything?

So are they to blame for their own misfortune just as the Dems are for theirs?

No!

 

[j brown's body]

No!

So then, no to this?

Thread 'Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?'

Oct 3, 2025

I often wonder how many on the left have some level of understanding that Trump would have never been president, ever, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for media did against Trump. Anyone on the left here actually realize it was the left who elected Trump? Did you just go too far, with everything? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing?

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[hecatmoggie]

Using the logic of "Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?," how many on the right have some level of understanding that Kirk's assassination wouldn't have happened, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for demagoguery against members of our communities and political figures?

so you are against a free society and freedom of speech and discussions on political ideas/views ?

Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing? after all, we know that demagoguery appeals to emotion, and people act on emotion. Many demagogues have been assassinated. Did you just go too far, with everything?
So are they to blame for their own misfortune just as the Dems are for theirs?

in today's USA, everybody who is outspoken is considered guilty of demagoguery

if AOC or Omar were killed today, Hillary or Pelosi or Schumer .... are you going to say they were to blame ?



You are blaming the victim of a political assassination ... think about that. Kirk changed everything as far as open dialogue and discussions about ideas and views and that everyone should get together and talk about things

and he was killed because of it and it very much sounds like you approve

 

[roberthughey]

So then, no to this?

Thread 'Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?'

Oct 3, 2025

I often wonder how many on the left have some level of understanding that Trump would have never been president, ever, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for media did against Trump. Anyone on the left here actually realize it was the left who elected Trump? Did you just go too far, with everything? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing?

• Moderate Right
• Replies: 533
• Forum: General Political Discussion

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Voters were so disillusioned with "them" that Harris received 6 million fewer votes than Biden in 2020, while Trump's vote count rose by 3 million.

 

[pragmatic]

If you want everyone with critical thinking skills to think your comment was a lie by omission, you do you.

(Guess if you want "everyone to think" you aren't capable of finding the snopes website, you do you.)

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