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Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?

Gimmesometruth said:
And now you, just after saying what I observed is not true, that the OP is not blaming dems, you do a complete 180 and are now agreeing with the OP and my observation that the dems are to blame.

You guys are so ****ing weird.
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Recriminations.
Why did Harris lose?
Pretty basic stuff.
 
gman said:
I can live with my choice, as much as I can. Didn’t like the choices presented. It’s as simple as that. Obviously I’m not alone.
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Bro, you are not even taking responsibility for your vote for Donny, let alone the arguments you make in support of the OP. Your veils are on the ground, you have nothing to hide.
 
BirdinHand said:
Care to try to explain what (if any) logic went into this post?
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Sanders was (or is) rather anti-immigration and anti free trade.
Those are two of the beams of Trump.
He received a lot of votes from Sanders folks.

Trump has overhauled the GOP
 
An anti racist america would have understood what black lives matter meant.
 
Moderate Right said:
I often wonder how many on the left have some level of understanding that Trump would have never been president, ever, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for media did against Trump. Anyone on the left here actually realize it was the left who elected Trump? Did you just go too far, with everything? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing?
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I do think the left shares some responsibility for the outcome of the election. But people are also responsible for their own actions. To say that the people who actually voted for Trump don't share in that responsibility is ridiculous.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You are trying to argue after your 180, that dems are to blame and you use a term meaning to place blame on the other party, the opposition.

You just can't take responsibility.
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Ms. Harris herself just published a book explaining why she lost.

That's all the OP is about-- what did Democrats do, and not do, that caused their defeat.
 
bomberfox said:
An anti racist US would not tolerate Vance spreading lies concocted by neo nazis, it would not tolerate trump doing as his father did, blacken the hearts of Americans with racist lies. It would not suspect black men when they enter their own homes to the point a black homeowner has to do much more than i do to prove he owns the home, black and asian sounding names would not statistically count against you. It would not create a hyper trigger finger police force, nor would it be tormenting latin american immigrants for a mere misdemeanor.
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Statistically, blacks commit more crime than any other minority. That's fact, not racist.

Latin illegal aliens being detained are committing felonies if they were already deported once. First offense is indeed a misdemeanor.
Also, illegals that have committed crimes while being here can be considered felonies.

I agree wholeheartedly about names. That actually IS racist and excellent point.

bomberfox said:
It would not just blithely follow someone wanting to get rid of the civil rights act as kirk did.
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Have you taken a moment to read (or watch) Kirk's whole argument on civil rights act?
 
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Brack said:
Trump is weaponizing the DOJ against his political opponents such as James Comey.
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He is following the trail blazed by his predecessor.

And yes, that blatant lawfare by the Biden Admin and other political allies was also part of the reason Trump won.
 
Moderate Right said:
I often wonder how many on the left have some level of understanding that Trump would have never been president, ever, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for media did against Trump. Anyone on the left here actually realize it was the left who elected Trump? Did you just go too far, with everything? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing?
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None. Not a single one of them has so much as an inkling that their insanity has turned off better than half the country. They are 100% convinced that the only reason Trump won is because he's a Nazi, pedophile, Russian spy and that everyone that voted for him is the same.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
****, you can't even accept that the GOP have been the backers of big business and have fought against workers rights for most of the 20th century and all of the 21st.
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Actually, both parties do this. It's how a Representative Democracy and Capitalism works.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Ms. Harris herself just published a book explaining why she lost.
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Oooh....a book...that you have not read, nor will you.
Athanasius68 said:
That's all the OP is about-- what did Democrats do, and not do, that caused their defeat.
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No, the OP is arguing that the dems are to blame for your choice, not that Don offered anything but that Dems drove you to Don, you had no option other than Don.....and that is the Dems fault. You are not responsible for your choice, the dems made you do it.
 
Dems have an internal struggle going on right now. PROG extremism vs rational moderation. There are PROGs who actually want to remove Schumer from the Senate.
 
Schweddy said:
Actually, both parties do this. It's how a Representative Democracy and Capitalism works.
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You have absolutely no understanding of US politics to say that anti-union policies are providence of Dems in the 20th and 21st centuries. That is just insane self delusionary argument.
 
Athanasius68 said:
He is following the trail blazed by his predecessor.

And yes, that blatant lawfare by the Biden Admin and other political allies was also part of the reason Trump won.
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Dems are to blame for Donny's criminality....
 
Moderate Right said:
I often wonder how many on the left have some level of understanding that Trump would have never been president, ever, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for media did against Trump. Anyone on the left here actually realize it was the left who elected Trump? Did you just go too far, with everything? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing?
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This says a lot to support the op.

81,283,501 votes Biden 2020
74,223,975 votes Trump 2020

77,302,580 votes Trump 2024
75,017,613 votes Harris 2024
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You have absolutely no understanding of US politics to say that anti-union policies are providence of Dems in the 20th and 21st centuries. That is just insane self delusionary argument.
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So you get to narrow down the scope to claim an overall argument. My statement was broad and vague.
The reply is irrational.
 
Schweddy said:
Statistically, blacks commit more crime than any other minority. That's fact, not racist.
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It is a racist comment, I have posted multiple times studies showing that there are no difference in crime when income/poverty are equal between ethnicities.

This is just racist Murray-ism.
 
roberthughey said:
This says a lot to support the op.

81,283,501 votes Biden 2020
74,223,975 votes Trump 2020

77,302,580 votes Trump 2024
75,017,613 votes Harris 2024
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77,302,580- Trump
77,935,722- Not Trump
The people spoke.
 
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