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Does anyone honestly think the GOP could do a better job?

atrasicarius

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I don't like Obama. I think the job he's doing could at best be called mediocre, and mediocre just isn't gonna cut it right now. I know a lot of you guys would go a lot further than that. But seriously, do you really think the Republicans could do a better job? Even if you think the free market is the solution, do you really think the Republicans will give it to you? For eight years, the Republicans only priority was enriching themselves and their buddies at the expense of everyone else. For the two years after that, their only priority has been getting back in power by any means necessary, up to and including playing chicken with the economy. What makes you think they'll change if they get back in power?
 
I trust Ron Paul. If another Republican gets the nomination, I will probably vote third party. I'm tired of choosing the lesser of two evils.
 
I trust Ron Paul. If another Republican gets the nomination, I will probably vote third party. I'm tired of choosing the lesser of two evils.

That's pretty much where I stand, too. I see the logic for voting for Obama if someone like Palin gets the nod, but I just can't bring myself to imply that I approve of the job he's been doing.
 
I trust Ron Paul. If another Republican gets the nomination, I will probably vote third party. I'm tired of choosing the lesser of two evils.
Implies you have a choice, other than not voting at all. The best way is to try and make sure better candidates win the primaries. Just because bachman, or the democrat equivilent, runs does mean we ahve to vote for them in the primaries. If we raise our standards, maybe we'll have better choices.
 
I think a GOP Presidential win or them regaining control of congress would be disastrous for our nation right now, but to be 100% honest I do not have much faith in either party at this time. Congress has continuously proven that it doesn't have the balls or the integrity to weed out the source of this nation's problems. They are in it for their own careers, power politics, and their private contributors.

They run America like they run a corporation now. They are most accountable to their shareholders first, then themselves, then the public.
 
I don't like Obama. I think the job he's doing could at best be called mediocre, and mediocre just isn't gonna cut it right now. I know a lot of you guys would go a lot further than that. But seriously, do you really think the Republicans could do a better job? Even if you think the free market is the solution, do you really think the Republicans will give it to you? For eight years, the Republicans only priority was enriching themselves and their buddies at the expense of everyone else. For the two years after that, their only priority has been getting back in power by any means necessary, up to and including playing chicken with the economy. What makes you think they'll change if they get back in power?
This is precisely the problem with the auto-defense of the two party system and the attacks on the Tea Party. The short answer is that both parties have proven themselves to be quite adept...at screwing over the country. And rather than being upset and holding them accountable, voters in this country takes sides in this ridiculous "your guy sucks worse than my guy" exchange. If you dont want to trash the two part system at the very least we should hold the people elected accountable. That doesnt mean continue to support them blindly cuz we loves us some free government cheese. That means have a higher standard...a higher expectation, and let them know if they can rise above the petty partisan BS they will be replaced.
 
This is precisely the problem with the auto-defense of the two party system and the attacks on the Tea Party. The short answer is that both parties have proven themselves to be quite adept...at screwing over the country. And rather than being upset and holding them accountable, voters in this country takes sides in this ridiculous "your guy sucks worse than my guy" exchange. If you dont want to trash the two part system at the very least we should hold the people elected accountable. That doesnt mean continue to support them blindly cuz we loves us some free government cheese. That means have a higher standard...a higher expectation, and let them know if they can rise above the petty partisan BS they will be replaced.

As bad as they are, they don't make nutter any more appealing. If the tea party, or any third party for that matter, were coherent, logical, and earned some trust, I would hope they would have a chance. The tea party certainly doesn't meet that qualification.

But as I said earlier, we should expect more, early and often.
 
The tea party faction of the Republican Party is simply that - no more and no less. Talking about them like they are some independent force is ridiculous and contrary to every survey and study I have read on the group.
 
To tell the truth, I thought getting a Republican Congress in there would increase our chances of getting something done. However, it seems that both parties have moved so far to the extreme that the idea of compromise has gone by the wayside.
 
The tea party faction of the Republican Party is simply that - no more and no less. Talking about them like they are some independent force is ridiculous and contrary to every survey and study I have read on the group.
The Tea Party is a faction...one that has put pressure on long term members of congress (republicans) and in some cases replaced them with fiscal conservatives. By all means libs...start your own version of whatever you want to call it. Until you do and until conservatives that voice displeasure with the Tea Party, you come across as a bunch of morons protesting a small 'faction' while you continue to enable the people that have spent this country into a 15.5 trillion dollar hole and thump your chest with inane pride.
 
There are a lot of people who don't think either side is going to do better by the economy and probably a lot of other issues. The only thing keeping people from crossing over to the other side is a few fundametal issues like abortion and entitlements and gun control and immigration, etc., We can see we are just replacing one fool for another at the top but what the heck ya' gonna do unless some very inspiring alternative comes along?
 
There are a lot of people who don't think either side is going to do better by the economy and probably a lot of other issues. The only thing keeping people from crossing over to the other side is a few fundametal issues like abortion and entitlements and gun control and immigration, etc., We can see we are just replacing one fool for another at the top but what the heck ya' gonna do unless some very inspiring alternative comes along?
I know there are a lot of people that dont like it, but what you can do is support another faction...the Green party is just a bunch of one issue liberals. The Tea Party are just fiscally conservative republicans. But if enough people stop kneeling and swallowing at the alter of their party reps, they just might convince them that they are beholdin to the voters and not the other way around.
 
To tell the truth, I thought getting a Republican Congress in there would increase our chances of getting something done. However, it seems that both parties have moved so far to the extreme that the idea of compromise has gone by the wayside.

Read something a while back that suggested we needed a radical middle. I liked the thought. ;)
 
I don't like Obama. I think the job he's doing could at best be called mediocre, and mediocre just isn't gonna cut it right now. I know a lot of you guys would go a lot further than that. But seriously, do you really think the Republicans could do a better job?
If that Republican is a true conservative, then yes.
 
There are no GOP candidates in the offering for conservatives that believe in conservation and science. This is going to be a big problem for the GOP.
 
Yesterday, Teavangelical darling Michele Bachmann told a group in Florida that the earthquake and hurricane in New York happened because God was telling America it needs to be more fiscally conservative. A lot of people in the Tea Party support Bachmann. If the Tea Party was about fiscal responsibility I might listen. Unfortunately, the Tea Party is infested with the same religious nutters that drove people away from the GOP.

I definitely will not be voting for a Republican, Democrat, Teapublican or Teavangelical.
 
If the Tea Party was about fiscal responsibility I might listen.

They were at first. Then they morphed into the catch all organization for "I don't like Obama" no matter why they didn't like him. Eventually, it seems that it's been taken over by the GOP. The same ones that helped the Democrats create the mess that the Tea Party was protesting in the first place.

This is the sort of drivel that comes out of Bachmann's mouth all the time. Electing her to replace to Obama will be replacing "Oh God, what has he done now" with "Oh God, what has she said now?"
 
The same question was asked during the Bush years...
 
To tell the truth, I thought getting a Republican Congress in there would increase our chances of getting something done. However, it seems that both parties have moved so far to the extreme that the idea of compromise has gone by the wayside.

Compromise is what has gotten us into this mess. Bush completely ignored the mess the push to get everyone into a house was creating so that he continue to get his wars financed. The Dems financed those wars so they could run with their ideas that everyone should own a home.

Now to the question. Do I think the Republican woodwork can do a better job? No. Do I think some of the new members that saw to it that there were no new massive spending stimulus programs or a raise in the debt ceiling without cuts can make a difference? I'm going to wait and see.
 
They were at first. Then they morphed into the catch all organization for "I don't like Obama" no matter why they didn't like him.

Imagine that. He stands pretty much 100% against what they believe (as you note fiscal responsibility). Not even the Dems could support his totally irresponsible budget.

Eventually, it seems that it's been taken over by the GOP. The same ones that helped the Democrats create the mess that the Tea Party was protesting in the first place.

If not for the Tea Party the GOP would have signed off on the Debt Ceiling, no (actual) cuts attached.

Tea Party organizations are working to punish conservative Republicans who plan to vote yes on Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) debt-ceiling proposal.


Tea Party groups target
 
I'll put it this way, I think you'd really really really have to try hard to do a worse job. The guy is like a lazy school teacher, always sending everyone to their corners to come up with an idea. He has never lead, he's been the biggest following president of modern history.
 
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