DOE: A Critical Review of Impacts of Greenhouse Gas Emissions on the U.S. Climate

[Steve Case]

A first step would have been to expand the working group both to be able to answer the public questions to the report as well as let more scientists review the findings. Instead they simply gave up and shut down the group.

While for example the IPCC have been able to withstand decades of scrutiny from scientists, politcians, corporations, NGO and many others.

About — IPCC

www.ipcc.ch

While for example the IPCC have been able to withstand decades of scrutiny from scientists, politcians, corporations, NGO and many others.

And you provide a link to none other than the IPCC.

 

[Volunteer]

While for example the IPCC have been able to withstand decades of scrutiny from scientists, politcians, corporations, NGO and many others.

And you provide a link to none other than the IPCC.

You've been around this board long enough to have read many of his links.

 

[Lord of Planar]

If the report had any credibility it would of course had led to further studies.

The report was done well and did not need more.

While the authors wouldn't even both to answer the public comments from the scientific community. From my source:

"The report generated concerted pushback from the scientific community. More than 100 climate scientists – many of whom coordinated their efforts – submitted over 400 pages in public comments to the Energy Department last week."

That is probably because it puts future federal grant money in jeopardy for them. They are likely pissed that the spigot may be turned off.

Have you seen the 400 pages of comments?

Lets see. If 200 authors complain about losing grants, and submit 2 pages each, is that actually valid? have you seen the contents of those pages? I have not. I would like to. How about you.

But to take the word of CNN on politically charged controversial issues is very, very foolish.

I read the report. it was done exceptionally well, and I do not see where these people have a leg to stand on.

 

[Lord of Planar]

How do you know the report didn’t generate further studies?

It appears he believes the spin the CNN talking heads placed on it.

 

[Lord of Planar]

A first step would have been to expand the working group both to be able to answer the public questions to the report as well as let more scientists review the findings. Instead they simply gave up and shut down the group.

Well then pay for that is you want it done.

While for example the IPCC have been able to withstand decades of scrutiny from scientists, politcians, corporations, NGO and many others.

It withstands scrutiny by making scientists lose their jobs that disagrees with them., they are bullies and anti-science. They have an agenda. Period.

just ask Judith Curry, and others.

About — IPCC

www.ipcc.ch

Every time you link the IPCCC without the actual science and explanation, you just show everyone you really do not understand.

 

[Lord of Planar]

You've been around this board long enough to have read many of his links.

Yep.

Berg has spam and propaganda. Over and over. Same shit over and over.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

The report was done well and did not need more.

That is probably because it puts future federal grant money in jeopardy for them. They are likely pissed that the spigot may be turned off.

Have you seen the 400 pages of comments?

Lets see. If 200 authors complain about losing grants, and submit 2 pages each, is that actually valid? have you seen the contents of those pages? I have not. I would like to. How about you.

But to take the word of CNN on politically charged controversial issues is very, very foolish.

I read the report. it was done exceptionally well, and I do not see where these people have a leg to stand on.

Trump has made massive cuts to climate science and research. So any scientists that only cared about keeping their jobs and grant money would do anything to confirm the DoE report. Instead the scientific community showed what a shame the report was. There neither the scientists behind the report nor any other contrarian scientists could answer the public questions and the errors found in the report so the group was shut down.

Inside Trump’s campaign to censor climate science - Grantham Research Institute on climate change and the environment

Efforts to erase climate data in the US undermine scientific institutions, threaten global climate preparedness and deepen inequalities in a warming world.

www.lse.ac.uk

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/02/nx-s1-5521384/energy-report-scientists-climate-change

 

[Lord of Planar]

Trump has made massive cuts to climate science and research.

The federal government needed to cut that spending long ago. we are so damn deep in debt, it is crazy.

So any scientists that only cared about keeping their jobs and grant money would do anything to confirm the DoE report. Instead the scientific community showed what a shame the report was. There neither the scientists behind the report nor any other contrarian scientists could answer the public questions and the errors found in the report so the group was shut down.

Inside Trump’s campaign to censor climate science - Grantham Research Institute on climate change and the environment

Efforts to erase climate data in the US undermine scientific institutions, threaten global climate preparedness and deepen inequalities in a warming world.

www.lse.ac.uk

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/02/nx-s1-5521384/energy-report-scientists-climate-change

More crybabies...

I see there are broad allocations, no specifics. Looks like they have no valid critique.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

The federal government needed to cut that spending long ago. we are so damn deep in debt, it is crazy.

More crybabies...

I see there are broad allocations, no specifics. Looks like they have no valid critique.

There are a lot of valid criticism in the sources I provided.

"Beyond gutting regulations, the administration is also erasing scientific evidence. It has removed the online website that hosted the National Climate Assessment (NCA) reports, published every four years, and dismissed hundreds of staff working on the next edition. Without the NCA reports, cities could struggle to prepare for climate disasters."

"The group of climate scientists found several examples where the DOE authors cherry-picked or misrepresented climate science in the agency's report. For instance, in the DOE report the authors claim that rising carbon dioxide can be a "net benefit" to U.S. agriculture, neglecting to mention the negative impacts of more heat and climate-change fueled extreme weather events on crops."

"Andrew Dessler, professor of atmospheric sciences at Texas A&M University, coordinated the response from dozens of climate experts. He says unlike the DOE report, climate reports from groups such as the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change feature the work of hundreds of global scientists and require multiple rounds of peer review."

 

[Lord of Planar]

There are a lot of valid criticism in the sources I provided.

"Beyond gutting regulations, the administration is also erasing scientific evidence. It has removed the online website that hosted the National Climate Assessment (NCA) reports, published every four years, and dismissed hundreds of staff working on the next edition. Without the NCA reports, cities could struggle to prepare for climate disasters."

"The group of climate scientists found several examples where the DOE authors cherry-picked or misrepresented climate science in the agency's report. For instance, in the DOE report the authors claim that rising carbon dioxide can be a "net benefit" to U.S. agriculture, neglecting to mention the negative impacts of more heat and climate-change fueled extreme weather events on crops."

"Andrew Dessler, professor of atmospheric sciences at Texas A&M University, coordinated the response from dozens of climate experts. He says unlike the DOE report, climate reports from groups such as the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change feature the work of hundreds of global scientists and require multiple rounds of peer review."

There is no pending climate disaster due to AGW.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

There is no pending climate disaster due to AGW.

The devastating effects of climate change are already happening across the world.

U.S. socked with 15 billion-dollar weather disasters during the 1st half of 2025 » Yale Climate Connections

Four of the top 20 costliest weather disasters have occurred in the last year.

yaleclimateconnections.org

 

[Lord of Planar]

The devastating effects of climate change are already happening across the world.

U.S. socked with 15 billion-dollar weather disasters during the 1st half of 2025 » Yale Climate Connections

Four of the top 20 costliest weather disasters have occurred in the last year.

yaleclimateconnections.org

We have discussed human influence before, as to the fact a very high number of wildfires are cause by careless smokers or other careless actions. Not AGW. Floods, drought, etc, are natural, and we see no trending upward of actual droughts. Flooding is often exasperated with land use changes restricting the natural flow. Droughts are only more severe to our existence because we have more people using a limited supply of water.

You cannot show anything harmful caused by greenhouse gasses, which is what your cult wants to control.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

We have discussed human influence before, as to the fact a very high number of wildfires are cause by careless smokers or other careless actions. Not AGW. Floods, drought, etc, are natural, and we see no trending upward of actual droughts. Flooding is often exasperated with land use changes restricting the natural flow. Droughts are only more severe to our existence because we have more people using a limited supply of water.

You cannot show anything harmful caused by greenhouse gasses, which is what your cult wants to control.

Trump failed to disprove the urgent need for action during his first presidency. That he couldn't stop the Fourth National Report. While now he simply had a phony report published and when gave up again.

https://repository.library.noaa.gov/view/noaa/19487

 

[Deuce]

We have discussed human influence before, as to the fact a very high number of wildfires are cause by careless smokers or other careless actions. Not AGW. Floods, drought, etc, are natural, and we see no trending upward of actual droughts. Flooding is often exasperated with land use changes restricting the natural flow. Droughts are only more severe to our existence because we have more people using a limited supply of water.

You cannot show anything harmful caused by greenhouse gasses, which is what your cult wants to control.

My man people on your side literally chant "amen" in a crowd watching someone paint a picture of Donald Trump so maybe "cult" isn't a term you wanna throw around.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Trump failed to disprove the urgent need for action during his first presidency. That he couldn't stop the Fourth National Report.

Useless rhetoric like normal from you.

While now he simply had a phony report published and when gave up again.

Nothing phony about it. maybe you can index and quote what its wrong, and explain why it is wrong.

Put up of cease your tripe.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Useless rhetoric like normal from you.

Nothing phony about it. maybe you can index and quote what its wrong, and explain why it is wrong.

Put up of cease your tripe.

Four years with a climate denying president had no impact on the understanding of climate change. That climate scientists continued their work and in their peer reviewed reports continued to show the urgent need for action. Leading to that fifth National Climate Report published in 2023 clearly stating the urgent need to reduce CO2 emissions. Without Republicans controlling the House being able to provide any contrary evidence.

National Climate Assessments | U.S. Climate Resilience Toolkit

toolkit.climate.gov

While the scientific community now shows how unscientific and wrong the DoE report is. So the Trump administration shut down the group behind the report instead of answering their questions and criticism. There are also other unscientific reports being published by the Trump administration like the MAHA report. While at the same time Kennedy plans to ban federal scientists from publishing in JAMA, Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine “because they’re all corrupt” according to him.

White House blames 'formatting' for errors in RFK Jr.'s MAHA report. Authors push back.

Researchers listed in the MAHA report have come forward since its publication saying the articles cited don't exist or were used inaccurately.

www.usatoday.com

So after decades of climate denier propaganda there is no contrary evidence. While that propaganda contributed to the Trump administration that already has devastating effects on science. This will also have major negative effects on the economy and society as a whole.

How the oil industry made us doubt climate change

Energy companies stand accused of trying to downplay their contribution to global warming.

www.bbc.com

The US brain drain has begun

The White House appears hell-bent on destroying not just economic and political paradigms, but a higher education system that really did make America great.

www.politico.eu

 

[Lord of Planar]

Four years with a climate denying president had no impact on the understanding of climate change. That climate scientists continued their work and in their peer reviewed reports continued to show the urgent need for action. Leading to that fifth National Climate Report published in 2023 clearly stating the urgent need to reduce CO2 emissions. Without Republicans controlling the House being able to provide any contrary evidence.

National Climate Assessments | U.S. Climate Resilience Toolkit

toolkit.climate.gov

While the scientific community now shows how unscientific and wrong the DoE report is. So the Trump administration shut down the group behind the report instead of answering their questions and criticism. There are also other unscientific reports being published by the Trump administration like the MAHA report. While at the same time Kennedy plans to ban federal scientists from publishing in JAMA, Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine “because they’re all corrupt” according to him.

White House blames 'formatting' for errors in RFK Jr.'s MAHA report. Authors push back.

Researchers listed in the MAHA report have come forward since its publication saying the articles cited don't exist or were used inaccurately.

www.usatoday.com

So after decades of climate denier propaganda there is no contrary evidence. While that propaganda contributed to the Trump administration that already has devastating effects on science. This will also have major negative effects on the economy and society as a whole.

How the oil industry made us doubt climate change

Energy companies stand accused of trying to downplay their contribution to global warming.

www.bbc.com

The US brain drain has begun

The White House appears hell-bent on destroying not just economic and political paradigms, but a higher education system that really did make America great.

www.politico.eu

More useless tripe and propaganda from you.

Too bad you cannot show the report is in error.

 

[Volunteer]

More useless tripe and propaganda from you.

The "propaganda" response is all you got?

 

[Lord of Planar]

The "propaganda" response is all you got?

It doesn't deserve any more than that. This is his style.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

More useless tripe and propaganda from you.

Too bad you cannot show the report is in error.

So the peer reviewed fourth and fifth National Climate Report written by hundreds of leading scientists are just propaganda according to you. While you believe in the phony DoE report written by five hacks to be credible. This shows how effective and destructive decades of climate denier propaganda have been.

That kind of anti science propaganda has also contributed to the Trump administration that now goes after any science that doesn't align with their faulty and partisan worldview. For example, the administration has removed a report that shows deadly violence from right wing groups is much more common than from left wing groups.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5507682-doj-removes-far-right-extremism-study/

 

[longview]

So the peer reviewed fourth and fifth National Climate Report written by hundreds of leading scientists are just propaganda according to you. While you believe in the phony DoE report written by five hacks to be credible. This shows how effective and destructive decades of climate denier propaganda have been.

That kind of anti science propaganda has also contributed to the Trump administration that now goes after any science that doesn't align with their faulty and partisan worldview. For example, the administration has removed a report that shows deadly violence from right wing groups is much more common than from left wing groups.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5507682-doj-removes-far-right-extremism-study/

Why do you think the alarmist position is beyond question? Science is about nothing being beyond question.
Also the Authors of the DOE report are highly respectable scientists in their own right and have Hundreds of peer reviewed publications
themselves.

 

[Lord of Planar]

So the peer reviewed fourth and fifth National Climate Report written by hundreds of leading scientists are just propaganda according to you.

I think you misunderstand what they say and what things are based on.

While you believe in the phony DoE report written by five hacks to be credible. This shows how effective and destructive decades of climate denier propaganda have been.

Nothing phony about it.

That kind of anti science propaganda has also contributed to the Trump administration that now goes after any science that doesn't align with their faulty and partisan worldview. For example, the administration has removed a report that shows deadly violence from right wing groups is much more common than from left wing groups.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5507682-doj-removes-far-right-extremism-study/

Why are you changing the topic? Know you lost this one?

 

[George50]

I think you misunderstand what they say and what things are based on.

Nothing phony about it.

Why are you changing the topic? Know you lost this one?

The DOE report is garbage. Here’s the rebuttal:

 

[Lord of Planar]

The DOE report is garbage. Here’s the rebuttal:

I don't know what you have there. I could not trace any valid copies of it. Links that go nowhere, and only a page talking about it with no links to it. The DOI numbers are not searchable so it is invalid. I found a copy which is not finalized yet.

When you get a copy that is released where thy get rid of their errors, please left me know.

 

[Buzz]

I don't know what you have there. I could not trace any valid copies of it. Links that go nowhere, and only a page talking about it with no links to it. The DOI numbers are not searchable so it is invalid. I found a copy which is not finalized yet.

When you get a copy that is released where thy get rid of their errors, please left me know.

Here is another version:



I bet you come up with more stupid reasons to ignore this one as well.