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I prefer the ASPCA and Humane Society myself. PETA does not as best I can tell run shelters, but they also do not as I can best tell think euthanasia is preferable to finding homes for pets. Further, PETA runs low and no cost spay/neuter programs which help work on the overpopulation issue.
Why We Euthanize | PETA.org (warning: disturbing images)
I remember reading of a group that believes keeping companion animals is making "slaves" of them. I tried finding it the comment but I couldn't, so maybe it wasn't PETA. You can tell, from the links below, though, that they don't think having domestic animals, even well treated ones, is a great thing. They also don't have much use for no kill shelters.
Animal Rights Uncompromised: 'Pets' | PETA.org
Animal Rights Uncompromised: 'No-Kill' Shelters | PETA.org
It does seem a bit hypocritical of PETA. They champion animal rights and care for animals, yet they euthanize thousands.
Can they really have it both ways and expect to not come under fire?
Yeah, like I have said, I am not a supporter of PETA. They go over the top and your first link is a good example of that. I do agree with them on nokill shelters. They create more problems than they solve and I find euthenasia preferable to a lifetime in small cages packed in a room with other stressed animals. It's one of those value judgements some will diagree with and I don't have a problem with the disagreement, it's purely a judgement call kinda thing.
The idea is that euthenization is preferable to the alternative. Their stance does not make then any less a "champion" for animal rights and care for animals. In their opinion, and it's a very defensible position, they are providing the best care possible for those animals.
Some abused animals can be socialized, but it is a painfully long, expensive process.
I think a better solution is mass sterilization.
There'd be far less euthanization.
By giving them death you care for them?
There must be a better way, imo.
Yeah, like I have said, I am not a supporter of PETA. They go over the top and your first link is a good example of that. I do agree with them on nokill shelters. They create more problems than they solve and I find euthenasia preferable to a lifetime in small cages packed in a room with other stressed animals. It's one of those value judgements some will diagree with and I don't have a problem with the disagreement, it's purely a judgement call kinda thing.
You cannot force people to spay/neuter their pets. I think most animal shelters require it of pets they adopt out, which is a good thing. PETA provides mobile spay/neuter clinics for no or low cost.
I used to volunteer at a no kill shelter and I still support them financially. What you're saying sounds more like a puppy mill where the people don't give a **** about the animals. That's so not the case, not where I volunteered anyway. Most of the people who volunteered there preferred animals to most people. LOL
I wish their was. I love animals alot. However, animal shelters, especially no kill shelters which are more crowded and have longer stays for animals have big problems with disease and loss of muscle on animals that stay there. It gets to be a very poor quality of life. I have been told(and cannot verify, it is strictly anecdote) that no kill shelters especially have a hard time keeping long t3erm help since it is so depressing for those who work there seeing the animals and what they go through.
I respect your recue efforts, Specklebang, but you're just flat out wrong to say that abused animals can't be socialized or rehabilitated. Both my dogs are shelter dogs and one of them had suffered a broken jaw and leg in her past. She's the sweetest (and now a very spoiled) dog. Looks just like a living teddy bear.
I remember a NatGeo special about some of Michael Vick's pitbulls taken to Dog Town. The wisdom was that they were just too abused to ever be good family pets and the expectation was that they would just live out their lives at Dog Town. After months of care and rehab, thought, some of those dogs were able to be adopted out, even surprising several of the volunteers there.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaPETA argues that it would have been better for animals had the institution of breeding them as "pets" never emerged, that the desire to own and receive love from animals is selfish, and that their breeding, sale, and purchase can cause immeasurable suffering. They write that millions of dogs spend their lives chained outside in all weather conditions or locked up in chain-link pens and wire cages in puppy mills, and that even in good homes animals are often not well cared for. They would like to see the population of dogs and cats reduced through spaying and neutering, and for people never to purchase animals from pet shops or breeders, but to adopt them from shelters instead.[89] PETA supports hearing dog programs where animals are taken from shelters and placed in appropriate homes, but does not endorse seeing-eye-dog programs because, according to one of their Vice Presidents, "the dogs are bred as if there are no equally intelligent dogs literally dying for homes in shelters."[90] PETA also opposes the keeping of fish in aquarium tanks, suggesting that people view computer videos of fish instead.[91]
I believe X was referring to this:
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
PETA opposes the no kill movement, and euthanizes an estimated 85% of the animals it takes in.[SUP][7][/SUP] The group takes in feral cat colonies with diseases such as feline AIDS and leukemia, stray dogs, litters of parvo-infected puppies, and backyard dogs, and says that it would be unrealistic to follow a no-kill policy in such instances.[SUP][92][/SUP] They offer free euthanasia services to counties that kill unwanted animals via gassing or shooting—they recommend the use of an intravenous injection of sodium pentobarbital if administered by a trained professional, and for severely ill or dying pets when euthanasia at a veterinarian is unaffordable.[SUP][93][/SUP] They recommend euthanasia for certain breeds, such as pit bull terriers, and in certain situations for animals in shelters: for example, for those living for long periods in cramped cages.[SUP][94][/SUP]
Here's more interesting stuff:Does this not just say it all folks?
I respect your recue efforts, Specklebang, but you're just flat out wrong to say that abused animals can't be socialized or rehabilitated. Both my dogs are shelter dogs and one of them had suffered a broken jaw and leg in her past. She's the sweetest (and now a very spoiled) dog. Looks just like a living teddy bear.
I remember a NatGeo special about some of Michael Vick's pitbulls taken to Dog Town. The wisdom was that they were just too abused to ever be good family pets and the expectation was that they would just live out their lives at Dog Town. After months of care and rehab, thought, some of those dogs were able to be adopted out, even surprising several of the volunteers there.
PETA is one of the biggest jokes in world history.
They are a disgrace and should be ashamed of themselves.
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