Actually a far larger case could be made that Palin kept the 2008 election from being a landslide instead of just a solid loss. In the wake of her announcement McCain had his first rise above Obama in the polls in month, helped make the RNC far more helpful to their ticket than the DNC was to Obama's, significantly increased cash donations into the campaign, invigorated an apathetic base that may not have turned out in decent numbers, and generally did not begin to truly get the staggeringly bad numbers with "independents" close to teh end and after the election at a time when McCain was also polling poorly with independents and Obama had been polling AMAZINGLY well with them from the start.
McCain and his horrible campaign strategy hurt the GOP in 2008, not Palin.
The true question is what happens with the debt ceiling. If Republicans prevent this from getting passed and economy tanks as a result, they will have a hard time keeping their majorities. If something gets passed, then we'll probably still have split government, with a smaller Republican majority in the House and a close-to-split Senate.
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Actually a far larger case could be made that Palin kept the 2008 election from being a landslide instead of just a solid loss. In the wake of her announcement McCain had his first rise above Obama in the polls in month, helped make the RNC far more helpful to their ticket than the DNC was to Obama's, significantly increased cash donations into the campaign, invigorated an apathetic base that may not have turned out in decent numbers, and generally did not begin to truly get the staggeringly bad numbers with "independents" close to teh end and after the election at a time when McCain was also polling poorly with independents and Obama had been polling AMAZINGLY well with them from the start.
McCain and his horrible campaign strategy hurt the GOP in 2008, not Palin.
I remember the Dems acting like they were afraid of McCain too while secretly hoping he would get the nomination.
Not that I can see. Is there a reason it is so very important to you?
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Gallup has him down to 44% approval thru 7/12. (That was before his triumphant exit.)
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
I know things will bounce up and down till Nov '12 but this is heartening for a conservative! Maybe there are enough reality sandwiches out there still to be eaten to get the job done.
Rasmussen, often dismissed by Obamites, has him still at 48%. Not enough.
Obama Approval Index History - Rasmussen Reports™
Unless none of the other candidates have a higher approval rating! :sun
44% approval probably won't get you re-elected in any race, Sunflower.
I know a lot will change between now and then. Forgive me for getting optimistic.
If Obama will be reelected than America will be transformed to a third world country.
If Obama will be reelected than America will be transformed to a third world country.
This sums up the situation very well ~
Where are the Republicans who can beat Obama in 2012?
"With a cast of has-beens, nobodies and deadbeats to choose from, no wonder many Republicans are depressed about 2012.
GOP presidential contest begins to warm up," the Los Angeles Times declared. That was on 7 March. In the weeks since then, can you feel the excitement? No, me neither.
In fact the most dramatic thing to happen during the nomination contest to date is Barack Obama's announcement that he's running for re-election. And he faces no primary opposition.
Compared with the same stage in 2007, when the presidential primary season was running at full steam, 2011 is a flat tire. But it's not just the lack of activity – the Republican candidates being touted are a collection of has-beens, nobodies and deadbeats, several of them barely household names in their own households. And those are the most electable ones.
Which is strange because the Republican party has just enjoyed an election triumph in the 2010 midterm elections that would suggest a party surging towards the 2012 contest. Instead, it's more like the Simpsons parody of the football world cup finals: "This match will determine once and for all which nation is the greatest on earth – Mexico or Portugal!"
So far, the 2012 primaries will determine once and for all who is the greatest Republican presidential candidate: Tim Pawlenty or Mitch Daniels?
Mitch who? Exactly. This Republican crop of candidates is a veritable "Who's that?" of American politics.
Despite all that, talking to intelligent Republicans finds them brimming with enthusiasm for their party's candidates. It's a fantastic field, they insist – for 2016. Yes, they are very excited about the 2016 presidential elections, and reel off a list of top-notch candidates: Marco Rubio, Rick Perry, Scott Walker, David Petraeus, Chris Christie, even Jeb Bush."
Rick Perry will enter the Republican presidential contest and he will win the party's nomination. A bold prediction? Not really, not when you consider the noises coming out of Texas and the ungainly sight of the other candidates.
When he does, Democrats will probably make the mistake of thinking that hanging a "George W Bush 2" label around the Texas governor's neck will sink him. Maybe it won't help Perry win the presidency in 2012 but it's hardly a bar to winning the Republican nomination.
Nice that he found "intelligent Republicans" to talk to. From the same writer, more recently:
Beware Rick Perry, the Republican party's real deal | Richard Adams | World news | guardian.co.uk
A male Michelle Bachmann to run against Obama? I'm game! One radical religious GOP candidate works as well as any other for me. :sun
So Obama is neither radical nor religious in your view?
I hope Perry does enter, but I would really prefer Michele.
Not even in the least, I was disappointed we didn't have liberal candidate to run against McCain. If we would have elected a liberal, we wouldn't still have troops in Afghanistan and Iraq and we wouldn't still have the Bush tax cuts still in place.
Perry or Bachmann, makes no difference to me. Both of these religious zealots will turn off the independents who decide the elections. :sun
I don't see any potential Reagan's in the GOP field, and the only ones who would have even a chance of winning the independent vote agaisnt Obama aren't going to win the primary because they're too moderate. The field is going to go to some of the more extreme, and outspoken candidates, and those people would alienate most groups outside the right and far right.
Not even in the least, I was disappointed we didn't have liberal candidate to run against McCain. If we would have elected a liberal, we wouldn't still have troops in Afghanistan and Iraq and we wouldn't still have the Bush tax cuts still in place.
Perry or Bachmann, makes no difference to me. Both of these religious zealots will turn off the independents who decide the elections. :sun
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