Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end WW2?

[sissy-boy]

Just as a point of clarification, all the text you referenced is from what Christians call the "Old Testament" and reflects ancient Jewish history and beliefs rather than Christian. You won't find anything similar among any Christian writings unless it is from some obscure sect that was banned by the mainstream early Christian groups. You are also referencing history, beliefs, and a culture from 3000 to 4000 years ago. You won't find anything in more modern Jewish writings that are comparable either.

So in the end, Christians and Jews now do not practice, teach, or believe that they are called to respect or repeat those ancient orders. Does Islam still believe the promises of virgins in the Quran?

There are many Christian churches that DO still teach the OT laws. But interestingly the mention of 'man laying with man' (if they did in fact mean sex); is part of the OT as well, yet modern Christianity accepts that. I find it fascinating the way that Christians pick and choose the only 'laws' that are pleasant for them to adhere to. And if the OT was not meant to be prescribed to, then why is it even IN the Bible?? Is it there to remind Christians just how insane and destructive that their 'God' really is??!

And you're simply WRONG about the groups you mentioned that do not practice, teach or believe those. Many Jews and Christians don't eat pork or shellfish -- and they believe that the Christians who DO eat food declared 'unclean' by God are only NOT as 'faithful'. So my question is, if you believe in 'some' of the Bible, why not believe in ALL of it??

 

[sissy-boy]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

Perhaps your approved history books forgot to tell you that the USA had been declaring war on Germany long before the official declaration by Germany with its harrassing of German shipping and its giving of war material to Britain,or should I say "selling" rather than "giving"?That is also not to include American jewry`s hysterical outbursts against Germany from January 1933 onwards and it calls for "war".
That was due to the rise of the Nazi's. And American basically turned it's back and let the Nazi's go ahead and start the beginnings of the genocide just like the Catholic Church (who's making reparations).


Don`t kid yourself.Beating Germany has only accelerated the decline of the world and the imminent end of Aryan man.
HAHAHH!!! Is that supposed to be FUNNY?? Germany hasn't had anything to offer the rest of the world in AGES, except maybe incredibly kinky PORN! hahah!! Tell me when I should stop laughing.

And I say SCREW the 'Aryan' man!! You sound like a bit of a neo-nazi, why would anyone listen to a word you said without laughing anyway?? Do you actually think that anyone thinks that National Socialism has anything to offer the world anyhow?? Gimme a break!
So in other words the nuclear bombing of Japan wasn`t waging aggressive war,more of a scientific experiment?So you are in a position to guarantee that nuclear weapons will never be used again?Have you told israel that?

I think that it was an agressive war and the military WAS in fact conducting a live experiment at the same time. And I don't think for a second that the world has seen the last nuclear strike. We got people like Bu$h and Rumsfeld just creaming their jeans thinking about using it on the middle east.


I am sure that the people of Japan are grateful to you for that.

For calling yourself 'Aryan' your avatar certainly looks pretty JEWISH.

 

[sissy-boy]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

The USA committed an act of genocide agaisnt Japan.
Ironic that the USA should sit in judgement upon Germany for committing the non existent "crime" of waging "agressive war" and yet should drop nuclear devices upon a defenceless civilian population at THE END of the war.
Perhaps it gave them the opportunity to use Japan as a test laboratory-a living laboratory.
Frankly another example of how mentally diseased the mass American psyche must be to support or applaud such atrocities.

haha!! You really ARE an aryan PEON. The only thing that I regret about defeating the nazi's is that we didn't execute every last SS member, and anti-semitic using the same slow torture that they used on the Jews. But I AM glad to see that the Aryan populations of the world are being extinguished through interracial blending. In the future there will be only one color of human -- and that color will be the most beautiful of all!

But I am interested, what is the 'non-existent' crime that you claim that the German's did not commit?

I can hardly wait for this....


:lol:

 

[ludahai]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

Ignorant, that is what he is. I wonder how much hair he has on his head and how many swastika's he has at home. Too bad he is also likely quite ignorant as to the origin of the symbol known as the swastika.

I'm ignorant as to it's origins. Where did it come from?[/QUOTE]

It is a religious symbol used originally in Hinduism and is used in Buddhism. It is used to symbolize peace and the beauty of spiritualism. It can be found all over Southeast Asia and East Asia. It is still used to this day in Taiwan. In fact, many Taiwanese are unaware of the perversion that Hitler brought to the symbol when he made a very slight alteration to it and used it to promote his hideous racial theories. When I tell them that it is considered an evil symbol in the West, many are stunned by that revelation.

Imagine that, Aryan Hitler using a symbol used by Asians. Typical racist ignorance!

 

[ludahai]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

haha!! You really ARE an aryan PEON. The only thing that I regret about defeating the nazi's is that we didn't execute every last SS member, and anti-semitic using the same slow torture that they used on the Jews. But I AM glad to see that the Aryan populations of the world are being extinguished through interracial blending. In the future there will be only one color of human -- and that color will be the most beautiful of all!

But I am interested, what is the 'non-existent' crime that you claim that the German's did not commit?

I can hardly wait for this....


:lol:

STOP THE PRESSES!!! STOP THE PRESSESS!!

sissy-boy and I actually AGREE on something?!?!?!?

Tell me it ain't so!!!!!

 

[AlbqOwl]

SissyBoy writes

There are many Christian churches that DO still teach the OT laws. But interestingly the mention of 'man laying with man' (if they did in fact mean sex); is part of the OT as well, yet modern Christianity accepts that. I find it fascinating the way that Christians pick and choose the only 'laws' that are pleasant for them to adhere to. And if the OT was not meant to be prescribed to, then why is it even IN the Bible?? Is it there to remind Christians just how insane and destructive that their 'God' really is??!

And you're simply WRONG about the groups you mentioned that do not practice, teach or believe those. Many Jews and Christians don't eat pork or shellfish -- and they believe that the Christians who DO eat food declared 'unclean' by God are only NOT as 'faithful'. So my question is, if you believe in 'some' of the Bible, why not believe in ALL of it??

I was addressing specifically the comment about a specific set of laws in the Old Testament which somebody was using as a "pot and kettle' comparison to Islamic terrorist promise of virgins to all who will commit murder in the name of Allah.

To continue this particular discussion would seriously hijack this thread. If you would start a thread re your particular question or complaint against Christians and Jews, however, and call my attention to it, I will be happy to give you my version of an answer.

 

[Pacridge]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

I'm ignorant as to it's origins. Where did it come from?

It is a religious symbol used originally in Hinduism and is used in Buddhism. It is used to symbolize peace and the beauty of spiritualism. It can be found all over Southeast Asia and East Asia. It is still used to this day in Taiwan. In fact, many Taiwanese are unaware of the perversion that Hitler brought to the symbol when he made a very slight alteration to it and used it to promote his hideous racial theories. When I tell them that it is considered an evil symbol in the West, many are stunned by that revelation.

Imagine that, Aryan Hitler using a symbol used by Asians. Typical racist ignorance![/QUOTE]

That's hilarious! I wonder if Hitler knew anything about what it meant or where it came from? I'd be willing to bet he didn't have a clue. He was pretty clueless about a lot of things. When you look at the moves he made he just wasn't all that well informed. Most likely not that bright overall.

 

[sissy-boy]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

I'm ignorant as to it's origins. Where did it come from?

It is a religious symbol used originally in Hinduism and is used in Buddhism. It is used to symbolize peace and the beauty of spiritualism. It can be found all over Southeast Asia and East Asia. It is still used to this day in Taiwan. In fact, many Taiwanese are unaware of the perversion that Hitler brought to the symbol when he made a very slight alteration to it and used it to promote his hideous racial theories. When I tell them that it is considered an evil symbol in the West, many are stunned by that revelation.

Imagine that, Aryan Hitler using a symbol used by Asians. Typical racist ignorance![/QUOTE]


Have you heard of the artist 'Man-woman'?? He's covered with swastikas as a way of 'freeing' it from the terror that the nazi's gave it.

I have a Japanese friend who is a painter and one of her pieces had a big swastika inside it and was up at a coffee shop here for a few days and they asked her to remove it -- she REALLY didn't know that it meant anything other than 'good luck' - so she gave it to me!! I really like it though, not becasue of the swastika -- but the innocence she had about it.

 

[ludahai]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

It is a religious symbol used originally in Hinduism and is used in Buddhism. It is used to symbolize peace and the beauty of spiritualism. It can be found all over Southeast Asia and East Asia. It is still used to this day in Taiwan. In fact, many Taiwanese are unaware of the perversion that Hitler brought to the symbol when he made a very slight alteration to it and used it to promote his hideous racial theories. When I tell them that it is considered an evil symbol in the West, many are stunned by that revelation.

Imagine that, Aryan Hitler using a symbol used by Asians. Typical racist ignorance!

That's hilarious! I wonder if Hitler knew anything about what it meant or where it came from? I'd be willing to bet he didn't have a clue. He was pretty clueless about a lot of things. When you look at the moves he made he just wasn't all that well informed. Most likely not that bright overall.[/QUOTE]

I knew that. The quoting mechanism was screwy when I posted it. It was another fellowd debater who was ignorant of the origins.

I agree, pretty ironic that an "Aryan" supremicist would use such a symbol.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

Yes, I believe the people of Japan hold no ill will toward the United States and most appreciate having us as friends.

As to the rest of your comments, at least there is no question of where you are coming from. You're wrong and you're scary, but at least you're honest.

Ignorant, that is what he is. I wonder how much hair he has on his head and how many swastika's he has at home. Too bad he is also likely quite ignorant as to the origin of the symbol known as the swastika.[/QUOTE]

It may surprise you to know that I have a full head of hair.
I have one or two swastikas yes.What of it?
As for the origin of the symbol of the swastika please do enlighten me though I forewarn you that I have books on the subject.Go ahead make my day!

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

For calling yourself 'Aryan' your avatar certainly looks pretty JEWISH.

My avatar is that of Baron Julius Evola,a Roman Aryan aristocrat.
So what do jews look like then? You liberals keep trying to persuade us "nazis" that Judentum is merely a religion rather than a race.
Do you not see the contradiction in what you have just said?

 

[ludahai]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

It may surprise you to know that I have a full head of hair.
I have one or two swastikas yes.What of it?
As for the origin of the symbol of the swastika please do enlighten me though I forewarn you that I have books on the subject.Go ahead make my day!

If you actually have read the posts in the thread, I think you already know where the symbol originated from. It certainly didn't originate as a racial supremicist symbol, that's for sure. The true swastika, the one born of peace and love for one another, is still alive and well in East, Southeast, and South Asia. To think what your ilk have done to that symbol, it makes Buddhists upset to say the least.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

haha!! You really ARE an aryan PEON. The only thing that I regret about defeating the nazi's is that we didn't execute every last SS member, and anti-semitic using the same slow torture that they used on the Jews. But I AM glad to see that the Aryan populations of the world are being extinguished through interracial blending. In the future there will be only one color of human -- and that color will be the most beautiful of all!

But I am interested, what is the 'non-existent' crime that you claim that the German's did not commit?

I can hardly wait for this....


:lol:

German leaders were placed on "trial",really a kangaroo court in 1945-1947 in Nuernberg and other places, accused of "crimes" which were not crimes in the legal sense of the word.
If they were alleged to have committed any crimes then they should have ben tried according to GERMAN law not vague generalities made up by the allies in 1945.In fact the very "crimes" of "waging an aggressive war" and "crimes against humanity" the allies were guilty of in no lesser measure but no Russians,Americans or British were placed on trial,only Germans.
Furthermore it is against any concept of natural justice for the accuser to be also the lawyer for the defence,the judge,jury and executioner-significantly many were jewish.VICTORS` VENGEANCE.
Also it is against all standards of jurispudence for people to be accused and tried of crimes retrospectively yet Nuernberg set this as a terrible precedent.
Well mark my words we will have our day and it is coming soon.
The people that we will try will be those guilty of race treason and you all know who you are.
I note your duly stated hatred of the Ario-Germanic race and your desire to see soldiers murdered for merely being members of the most elite military force the world has ever seen.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

I'm ignorant as to it's origins. Where did it come from?

It is a religious symbol used originally in Hinduism and is used in Buddhism. It is used to symbolize peace and the beauty of spiritualism. It can be found all over Southeast Asia and East Asia. It is still used to this day in Taiwan. In fact, many Taiwanese are unaware of the perversion that Hitler brought to the symbol when he made a very slight alteration to it and used it to promote his hideous racial theories. When I tell them that it is considered an evil symbol in the West, many are stunned by that revelation.

Imagine that, Aryan Hitler using a symbol used by Asians. Typical racist ignorance![/QUOTE]

The swastika is to be found all over those parts of the world where Aryans have trod.It is first and foremost an Aryan symbol.It can be found in not only the orient and Asia but in most parts of Europe.From the most northern parts of Scandinavia to ancient Greece,Rome and other areas outside of Europe where white people settled including the ancient city of Troy in Asian Minor.
The 19t century German archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann found numerous examples of various forms of swastikas and sun wheels on pottery unearthed during his excavations of Troy.
The name swastika comes from the sanskrit Svasti[Su-meaning well and asti meaning being].
The European examples of swastikas are of no less an antiquity than those found in the Far East.You will find examples even carved on megaliths which date back over 5,000 years.
There is evidence that Aryan man travelled far outside of his native Europe even into China.The famous Tocharian mummies are evidence of Aryan exploration going back over 3,000 years.It is highly significant that advances in Chinese civilisation can be traced back to Aryan incursions and settlements into the Tarim Basin at about the same time.
You also don`t need me to tell you that the Aryan invaders of the Indus Valley who brought Hinduism with them were white skinned caucasians and they are the originators of the caste system to prevent miscegantion with the aboriginal Dravidians.
Clearly it is Aryan man who brought civilisation to the world as he is the original Prometheus.
There is a theory that the swastika originates from the swirling swastika constellation to be seen in the northern night sky,thus ruling out a southern hemisphere origin.

 

[freethought6t9]

So tell me, if not retrospectively, how would you try a crime? It seems hard to try a crime that has not been committed, and since the Neurenburg court was set up to deal the the previously unheard of crime of systematic, institutional and meticulously planned execution of entire ethnicities and religions by a state then I don't see how it did set a dangerous precedent. Although yeah Stalin should have been tried for genocide as well, the actions of the U.S. and Britain in the war certainly did not warrant such action.

There is no viable comparison between the internment of Japanese civilians in the U.S. (a denounceable practice certainly) and the mass murder of over 4 million people.

I am interested to hear of this genocide you claim to be going on in Britain right now, and who exactly counts as indigenous population of ol' Blighty.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

It is a religious symbol used originally in Hinduism and is used in Buddhism. It is used to symbolize peace and the beauty of spiritualism. It can be found all over Southeast Asia and East Asia. It is still used to this day in Taiwan. In fact, many Taiwanese are unaware of the perversion that Hitler brought to the symbol when he made a very slight alteration to it and used it to promote his hideous racial theories. When I tell them that it is considered an evil symbol in the West, many are stunned by that revelation.

Imagine that, Aryan Hitler using a symbol used by Asians. Typical racist ignorance!

That's hilarious! I wonder if Hitler knew anything about what it meant or where it came from? I'd be willing to bet he didn't have a clue. He was pretty clueless about a lot of things. When you look at the moves he made he just wasn't all that well informed. Most likely not that bright overall.[/QUOTE]


No "not that bright".That is why he conquered most of Europe and half of the USSR because he was "not that bright".
What exectly has been your contribution to history?
The world will still remember the name of Hitler 1,000s of years after your bones have perished.His name will live on-yours will not be remembered.

 

[cnredd]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

No "not that bright".That is why he conquered most of Europe and half of the USSR because he was "not that bright".
What exectly has been your contribution to history?
The world will still remember the name of Hitler 1,000s of years after your bones have perished.His name will live on-yours will not be remembered.

Hitler's name will be remembered, but not for doing anything positive....

Kinda like Paris Hilton...

Actually, those two have a lot in common, seeing how they both wore women's underwear behind closed doors...

 

[MSgt]

Hell yeah....drop it twice!

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

So tell me, if not retrospectively, how would you try a crime? It seems hard to try a crime that has not been committed, and since the Neurenburg court was set up to deal the the previously unheard of crime of systematic, institutional and meticulously planned execution of entire ethnicities and religions by a state then I don't see how it did set a dangerous precedent. Although yeah Stalin should have been tried for genocide as well, the actions of the U.S. and Britain in the war certainly did not warrant such action.

There is no viable comparison between the internment of Japanese civilians in the U.S. (a denounceable practice certainly) and the mass murder of over 4 million people.

I am interested to hear of this genocide you claim to be going on in Britain right now, and who exactly counts as indigenous population of ol' Blighty.

If you are trying to tell me that the allies never committed atrocities and even genocide then you need to read these books-

http://jamesbacque.com/

Regardless of whether genocide occurred during the days of the Third Reich or not the defendants were not guilty of any "crime" in force on the statute books at the time of the alleged "crimes".
The USA had no jurisdiction to "try" German nationals for "crimes" not recognised as such by their state.
I find it significant that although George Booosh and other Americans are the firstto accuse others of being war criminals they exempt themselves and their own troops from any international tribunals governing war crimes.
Do you not find that hypocritical? Double standards?
So the "6,000,000" is now 4,000,000 then? Quite a drop! 33.3333%
Any possiblity of lowering further to say 2,000,000 or even 1,000,000?
The indigenous peoples of the British Isles are the descendants of the English,Scottish,Welsh and Irish peoples.
It is these peoples that have carved their own territorial imperatives into the landscape not the negro or the asian.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

Hitler's name will be remembered, but not for doing anything positive....

Kinda like Paris Hilton...

Actually, those two have a lot in common, seeing how they both wore women's underwear behind closed doors...

You find it easy to libel the dead?

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

If you actually have read the posts in the thread, I think you already know where the symbol originated from. It certainly didn't originate as a racial supremicist symbol, that's for sure. The true swastika, the one born of peace and love for one another, is still alive and well in East, Southeast, and South Asia. To think what your ilk have done to that symbol, it makes Buddhists upset to say the least.

I have done nothing to the symbol:I wear it with pride,carved into my white flesh.

 

[cnredd]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

You find it easy to libel the dead?

Only the ones that deserve it....

Hitler makes the list....twice actually...

Once, for being the leader of the Nazis, and once again for that haircut...

What did he put in there...axle grease?:2wave:

 

[fam]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

No, I do not think it was the right decision. So many people were killed. They were civillians and innocent.
I think that without this atom bomb the war was to be finished soon. The bomb was not the best decion. I blame America for this. It was cruel and too radical.

 

[cnredd]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

No, I do not think it was the right decision. So many people were killed. They were civillians and innocent.
I think that without this atom bomb the war was to be finished soon. The bomb was not the best decion. I blame America for this. It was cruel and too radical.

In a worldwide decade-long war that killed over 20 million people, I guess the last thing anyone would want is to do something "too radical".:roll:

 

[rudy0908]

Re: Do you think it was the right decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan to end W

You find it easy to libel the dead?

Where is the libel? Do you deny the holocaust happened? Do you think the Jews just made that up?

Where is Missouri Mule when you need him? I wanna see him and the Aryan racist go at it.