Do You Support Donald Trump leading the United States Military in Joining Israel's War Against Iran?

[reinaert]

Not a Trump order, then. A Congressional DoW. They all have to ****ing put their names to it.

 

[forn]

On this forum, adding the words "Donald Trump" basically decides the poll before it is posted.

 

[maxparrish]

Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?

‘We Now Have Complete And Total Control’: Trump Confirms U.S. is Part of Conflict With Iran

President Donald Trump appeared to confirm that the United States is now a part of Israel's attack on Iran during a Tuesday morning social media post.

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Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?

Trump has gyrated over support of this kind of operation ever since the election. He chose not to commit US forces, other than providing Israel intelligence. After it was very successful and admired for its skill and ability, he tried to share the credit ... "we" being his latest hitch hiking on Israel's success.

In short, other than Trump's terminology there isn't any evidence that the US is the one in or controlling Iran's skies.

Finally, my own support or non-support is conditional upon intelligence that I do not have. Was Fordo fully put out of action for a long time? Will Iran accept that it has to give up the pursuit of nuclear weapons? Is it possible for Israeli ground forces to land on the facility and take it out through other means?

So, IF the facility or another is still operational or can be brought back to operational status within a few months and there was no other way to disable it, then yes, we ought to deploy a couple of B2's each with 2 of the MOP bombs. While Iran's air defenses are down it is an opportunity that should not be passed up.

We may never get another chance.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Sounds like the US shouldn’t be backing Israel’s campaigns of aggression if the US doesn’t want to face that consequence.

If Iran blocks the Straits of Hormuz, the entire world will face the consequences of their actions. If you can't side with the United States against a nation like Iran, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Tigerace117]

If Iran blocks the Straits of Hormuz, the entire world will face the consequences of their actions. If you can't side with the United States against a nation like Iran, I don't know what to tell you.

The United States happily helped gas Iranian civilians, and is responsible for significantly more civilian deaths over the last twenty years alone than Iran is.

The US proudly supports Israel murdering tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians over the last two years.

The US is not in the right here dude. This is no different than America’s efforts to help apartheid South Africa. Cuba and the USSR were dictatorships, like Iran, but that doesn’t change the fact the people the US chose to back are far worse.

 

[Napoleon]

Depends on whether or not you want Iran to have nuclear weapons. Diplomacy and sanctions have never succeeded in preventing proliferation.

 

[instagramsci]

Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?

‘We Now Have Complete And Total Control’: Trump Confirms U.S. is Part of Conflict With Iran

President Donald Trump appeared to confirm that the United States is now a part of Israel's attack on Iran during a Tuesday morning social media post.

www.mediaite.com

Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?

I wonder how many service members are ready to die for Israel lol

 

[ALiberalModerate]

The United States happily helped gas Iranian civilians, and is responsible for significantly more civilian deaths over the last twenty years alone than Iran is.

The US proudly supports Israel murdering tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians over the last two years.

The US is not in the right here dude. This is no different than America’s efforts to help apartheid South Africa. Cuba and the USSR were dictatorships, like Iran, but that doesn’t change the fact the people the US chose to back are far worse.

Then defect to the humane paradise Iran.

 

[Tigerace117]

Then defect to the humane paradise Iran.

Gee, that argument didn’t work for y’all trying to defend the Vietnam War and it doesn’t work now

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Gee, that argument didn’t work for y’all trying to defend the Vietnam War and it doesn’t work now

I wasn't alive during the Vietnam War. The fact is, regardless of how anyone feels about the United States' conduct, Iran cannot be allowed to destroy the world's economy by blocking the Straits of Hormuz.

 

[reinaert]

I wasn't alive during the Vietnam War. The fact is, regardless of how anyone feels about the United States' conduct, Iran cannot be allowed to destroy the world's economy by blocking the Straits of Hormuz.

But Israel can, by starting the war that leads to Iran blocking them?

 

[Tigerace117]

I wasn't alive during the Vietnam War. The fact is, regardless of how anyone feels about the United States' conduct, Iran cannot be allowed to destroy the world's economy by blocking the Straits of Hormuz.

The fact is, the U.S. doesn’t get to decide what other countries do or don’t do, especially when it is backing wars of aggression against them and threatening their cities with nukes.

 

[trixare4kids]

I'll say. The administration can't even get their story straight.

Yeah, well... I suppose you think a word salad could do better.
Enjoy the next 1312 days bitching about presidents you cannot change.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

But Israel can, by starting the war that leads to Iran blocking them?

Regardless of how one feels about Israel's actions, they could be 100% in the right or 100% in the wrong, if Iran blocks the Straits of Hormuz, the impacts to the world economy will be catastrophic just the same.

 

[Bucky]

I trust Trump to make the right decision. He has tapped into our wavelength, which resonates with our core desires and frustrations, without needing explicit articulation.

Trump has a preternatural grasp of what we want at any given moment. We anticipate him. His lip movements, in a sense, are irrelevant because the message is already embedded in our shared worldview.

 

[Tigerace117]

Regardless of how one feels about Israel's actions, they could be 100% in the right or 100% in the wrong, if Iran blocks the Straits of Hormuz, the impacts to the world economy will be catastrophic just the same.

Sounds like the U.S. and Israel should have thought about that before they waged a war of aggression against Iran.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Sounds like the U.S. and Israel should have thought about that before they waged a war of aggression against Iran.

Israel engages in a military action that Tigerace117 doesn't agree with, thus the entire world must endure the consequences no matter how catastrophic. Hey, if Iran blocks the Straits of Hormuz, creates a global oil shock, and millions in the developing world starve to death while the United States does nothing, well, that is just the cost of Israel's actions huh?

 

[Tigerace117]

Israel engages in a military action that Tigerace117 doesn't agree with, thus the entire world must endure the consequences no matter how catastrophic. Hey, if Iran blocks the Straits of Hormuz, creates a global oil shock, and millions in the developing world starve to death while the United States does nothing, well, that is just the cost of Israel's actions huh?

Fun fact: just about the entire world outside of the U.S. and it’s pals agree with me there



The U.S. doesn’t give a shit about “millions in the devolving world” and never has. Trying to excuse a war of aggression like that is downright comical.

 

[j brown's body]

Yeah, well... I suppose you think a word salad could do better.
Enjoy the next 1312 days bitching about presidents you cannot change.

Gabbard says no and Trump says yes is word salad?

 

[markdc]

Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?

‘We Now Have Complete And Total Control’: Trump Confirms U.S. is Part of Conflict With Iran

President Donald Trump appeared to confirm that the United States is now a part of Israel's attack on Iran during a Tuesday morning social media post.

www.mediaite.com

Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?

Donald Trump has pulled off many cons throughout his life, but if he gets America into yet another destructive war in the Middle East, then the notion that he was the “peace president” opposed to “endless wars” will be his greatest con of all.
Indeed, you might say it was his “neo-con.”

Mark

 

[Felis Leo]

Donald Trump has pulled off many cons throughout his life, but if he gets America into yet another destructive war in the Middle East, then the notion that he was the “peace president” opposed to “endless wars” will be his greatest con of all.
Indeed, you might say it was his “neo-con.”

Mark

Okay, I will admit that I chuckled at the pun, markdc.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Not a Trump order, then. A Congressional DoW. They all have to ****ing put their names to it.

Right! A roll call vote.

But they will weasel their way around it because Congress does not have the balls. Stand up for the nation and be counted? Fat feckin chance.

 

[Rexedgar]

I trust Trump to make the right decision. He has tapped into our wavelength, which resonates with our core desires and frustrations, without needing explicit articulation.

Trump has a preternatural grasp of what we want at any given moment. We anticipate him. His lip movements, in a sense, are irrelevant because the message is already embedded in our shared worldview.

Lip movements? I know what I think is imbedded and where……..


Helsinki wants a word….

 

[Grand Mal]

I trust Trump to make the right decision. He has tapped into our wavelength, which resonates with our core desires and frustrations, without needing explicit articulation.

Trump has a preternatural grasp of what we want at any given moment. We anticipate him. His lip movements, in a sense, are irrelevant because the message is already embedded in our shared worldview.

My gawd!

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Fun fact: just about the entire world outside of the U.S. and it’s pals agree with me there



The U.S. doesn’t give a shit about “millions in the devolving world” and never has. Trying to excuse a war of aggression like that is downright comical.

I have been fortunate to have traveled a lot. There is as much diversity of opinion in the rest of the world as there is in the United States.