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Do you support DeVos as Education Secretary?

Do you support DeVos as Education Secretary?

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Tanngrisnir said:
I have no problems going back to things like phonics, etc...

My problem is with the rankly unfit individual Trump has nominated.

And, again, having federal controls simply isn't 'communist.'
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Sure it is, because nowhere in the Constitution does it give the Feds any authority over a school district.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
We have been doing just that all of my live, and I am 55, nothing has worked. In fact most reforms dont get tried long enough to know if they can work or not, the people who run education have done nothing but fail, to include failing to believe in their own reforms....they keep bailing. Even alleged successes like getting more people to graduate HS have been failures, because while they get the numbers up the way they have done it is by cheating on the numbers and lowering standards, which at the end of the day weakens America.

They are out of time, the American people have given up on the people who run education. Even the Universities. The elites claims of what an education secretary should look like no longer has much validity, because they have had what they wanted all along, and it has not worked.

The Rebellion thus should get what they want.

WE WON
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
You have made so many hyperbolic statements, exaggerations, and outright lies in this single post that it would take a pages of response to set you straight.
 
Phys251 said:
The people approved of the electoral college in its current state? Oh this is getting good. Lemme guess, they did so by direct popular vote, amirite?
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Not changing the rules is consent to the rules.

The route to changing the way we elect Presidents should we decide to do so is well known.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Not changing the rules is consent to the rules.

The route to changing the way we elect Presidents should we decide to do so is well known.
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It's either through an Article V convention where the entire US Constitution is in play or through the Amendment process and good luck with that.
 
Jack Hays said:
We could not do worse than we are doing now. My wife and I raised three well-educated and successful children by steering them around the many flaws of US education.
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Clearly your kids are out of the public schools now (if they were ever in), or you wouldn't advocate the "creative destruction" of the American educational system, without having any substantial alternative to replace it with.

I guess it's easier to be a nihilist the closer you get to the end of life.
 
RickJames3000 said:
You have no idea what you are talking about.
You have made so many hyperbolic statements, exaggerations, and outright lies in this single post that it would take a pages of response to set you straight.
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Now that's funny!
 
RickJames3000 said:
Clearly your kids are out of the public schools now (if they were ever in), or you wouldn't advocate the "creative destruction" of the American educational system, without having any substantial alternative to replace it with.

I guess it's easier to be a nihilist the closer you get to the end of life.
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All three had a mix of public and private experiences because we lived abroad quite a bit of the time. Now we have eight grandchildren (soon to be nine) so I'm not disinterested.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Her whackjob beliefs? As opposed to what has been happening?
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Greetings, AP. :2wave:

There is not one person I have talked to, including parents and teachers, who would not be overjoyed to see Common Core Math disappear! :shock:

And from what I've heard, school lunches are "yucky," according to several students who felt that way! Whose idea was it that a student in Louisiana is going to like what a student in Wyoming might eat for lunch? I don't understand that thinking at all, because we do have regional differences in foods we're accustomed to eating....
 
JANFU said:
Nope- standards are to low
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Sorry, but outside of the mandates as proscribed by the US Constitution, the Federal Government should not be involved. Again, you Leftists want a one-size-fits-all New York City (better yet, New York Sh!tty) approach for everyone rather than allowing communities to dictate control over their own frigging schools.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
No, the feds are too worried about the food served and which bathroom the kids use...
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Nope- Clear you have nothing to support your POV
 
polgara said:
Greetings, AP. :2wave:

There is not one person I have talked to, including parents and teachers, who would not be overjoyed to see Common Core Math disappear! :shock:

And from what I've heard, school lunches are "yucky," according to several students who felt that way! Whose idea was it that a student in Louisiana is going to like what a student in Wyoming might eat for lunch? I don't understand that thinking at all, because we do have regional differences in foods we're accustomed to eating....
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G'evening pg. Our federal government is concerned with everything BUT education...
 
They have been re-inventing education since I was in the first grade. Probably long before that even.

Not to ignore the problems we have in our educational system administration, as there are many, but neither can we ignore that, on average, across the board, 15 year old kids today, are a lot smarter than the 15 year old kids were back "in the good ol' days."

I think we should evaluate the educational systems, from top to bottom, far and wide, and it should be done by qualified investigators OUTSIDE the education industry. Education has been self-checking and self-dealing far too long. I think we might find some ideas on improvement there.

But, I also have another opinion that reigns atop of all other problems facing our educators and children. It's a simple fix that would take a LOT of other problems away.

1. Re-introduce the paddle back in the principal's office.
2. Dress codes.
3. Discipline.

That's right. The things I hated most about school. Bring 'em back.

The kids are out of control. Our teachers can't teach. All they can do is play referee.

This isn't in all schools, I know. We know what schools we are talking about without coming out and saying it.

Some school's need to go full bore military, or close to it. We are losing generations of children.

We cannot depend on parents these days to parent their children like it used to be. Meanwhile their un-mannered and unruly children are keeping the disciplined kids from learning and teachers from teaching.

Until we fix this, arguing over who should be this or that education guru, or throwing money at, or take money away, from our schools, ain't gonna matter a bit.

Money will not fix this. Partisanship will not fix this.

We need some tough love.

I never thought I would say this. But hind site being 20/20, I see the value of stricter rules.
 
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Bassman said:
Sorry, but outside of the mandates as proscribed by the US Constitution, the Federal Government should not be involved. Again, you Leftists want a one-size-fits-all New York City (better yet, New York Sh!tty) approach for everyone rather than allowing communities to dictate control over their own frigging schools.
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Really?

So, since they're not in the constitution, you must consider as communist the Air Force, the right to travel, immigration, paper money and a whole host of other things.
 
Captain America said:
They have been re-inventing education since I was in the first grade. Probably long before that even.

Not to ignore the problems we have in our educational system administration, as there are many, but neither can we ignore that, on average, across the board, 15 year old kids are a lot smarter than the kids were back "in the good ol' days."

I think we should evaluate the educational systems, from top to bottom, far and wide, and it should be done by qualified investigators OUTSIDE the education industry. Education has been self-checking and self-dealing far too long. I think we might find some ideas on improvement there.

But, I also have another opinion that reigns atop of all other problems facing our educators and children. It's a simple fix that would take a LOT of other problems away.

1. Re-introduce the paddle back in the principal's office.
2. Dress codes.
3. Discipline.

That's right. The things I hated most about school. Bring 'em back.

The kids are out of control. Our teachers can't teach. All they can do is play referee.

This isn't in all schools, I know. We know what schools we are talking about without coming out and saying it.

Some school's need to go full bore military, or close to it. We are losing generations of children.

We cannot depend on parents these days to parent their children like it used to be. Meanwhile their un-mannered and unruly children are keeping the disciplined kids from learning and teachers from teaching.

Until we fix this, arguing over who should be this or that education guru, or throwing money at, or take money away, from our schools, ain't gonna matter a bit.

Money will not fix this. Partisanship will not fix this.

We need some tough love.

I never thought I would say this. But hind site being 20/20, I see the value of
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I think of East Side HS in Paterson, NJ and a Principal named Joe Clark who took a failing, undisciplined, chaotic student body and basically shot first and answered questions later. I wish we had more principals like Joe Clark.
 
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