LibertyBurns
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No. I am not a commodity that can be owned. I am a man, not property.
Anyway, the right to life is based on self ownership.
And who said your body isn't a commodity?
Do I own myself as far as being my own property? No, because I am not property.Due to our little debate in another thread figured we could find out what most of you thought.
No, it isn't. That is pure unadulterated nonsense. The right to life is based on our ability to kill and our willingness to do so in self-defense, such that any society that does not recognize the right to life is inherently unstable.
You should know. You quoted him.
No. I am not a commodity that can be owned. I am a man, not property.
This is simply a libertarian axiom that is crafted to ensnare the gullible. If you accept it then a whole bunch of dominos will be pushed over behind it. At the end will be the dominos which state that you must then accept weak or no government and there is no authority to tax people.
Ownership simply means that one has the exclusive right to use a particular things. So yes, I would say that we each own our own physical bodies. We each have an exclusive claim on the use of our physical bodies. No other person has a claim on our bodies.
If I own myself and charge myself money each time I have sex with myself does that make me a whore?
If I own myself and charge myself money each time I have sex with myself does that make me a whore?
I'd have to question that a bit. For starters, have a child.
You can support that child, or the State will force you to support that child. That means the labor of your body and the product of that labor are no longer exclusively yours.
For another, get divorced. There's this thing called Alimony... I was lucky enough to avoid it, but if you get saddled with it they take a chunk of your pay for potentially many years and give it to your former spouse.
Then there's debt. You can get your salary garnished for unpaid debt. Again, the product of your bodily labor being granted to another, will you or won't you.
If you're an employee you're like a tenant farmer. You get a certain fixed amount of the product of your labor, your employer keeps the rest. Again, you don't own the product of your body.
Try to sell a kidney and see how that works out.
I think the whole self-ownership thing is typically put into overly simplistic terms. Also, didn't we do this thread just last month?? :mrgreen:
I hardly think so. Rather I think one of the dominoes are flawed.This is simply a libertarian axiom that is crafted to ensnare the gullible. If you accept it then a whole bunch of dominos will be pushed over behind it. At the end will be the dominos which state that you must then accept weak or no government and there is no authority to tax people.
This film has been seen many many times before and is predictable as the most cliched of Hollywood scripts.
btw - the poll is highly flawed. Either you do or you don't. The idea of should or shouldn't is ludicrous.
If we didn't own our own bodies than killing us wouldn't be a problem.
I'm asking for where in the hell you got that from considering you can sell your body as a commodity.
This is simply a libertarian axiom that is crafted to ensnare the gullible. If you accept it then a whole bunch of dominos will be pushed over behind it. At the end will be the dominos which state that you must then accept weak or no government and there is no authority to tax people.
This film has been seen many many times before and is predictable as the most cliched of Hollywood scripts.
btw - the poll is highly flawed. Either you do or you don't. The idea of should or shouldn't is ludicrous.
You can own your body, but who owns your soul? Which is really your "self?"
Your soul is even less property than your body-- at least living bodies can be bought and sold, even if they cannot truly be owned.
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