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Do you know your Bill of Rights?

TurtleDude said:
many lefties seem to think that you don't have any rights unless the government gives them to you. They pretend that a government is endowed with every possible power imaginable from the second the government is created
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You don't have rights unless they can agreed upon and protected in some way. The means to do that is the government. You pretend that rights were always known and not invented by men who formed a government as a means of securing those invented rights.
 
devildavid said:
You don't have rights unless they can agreed upon and protected in some way. The means to do that is the government. You pretend that rights were always known and not invented by men who formed a government as a means of securing those invented rights.
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Tell me how a government needed to confirm that you had a natural right to your own life?
 
devildavid said:
You don't have rights unless they can agreed upon and protected in some way. The means to do that is the government. You pretend that rights were always known and not invented by men who formed a government as a means of securing those invented rights.
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Bloody hell, we actually agree on something.
 
devildavid said:
How so?
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you assume all that exists is a government and an individual. Groups of people who are not "government" have been very effective in doing many things over the years.
 
TurtleDude said:
you assume all that exists is a government and an individual. Groups of people who are not "government" have been very effective in doing many things over the years.
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What sort of groups? And what were they effective in doing? This must be independent of any larger supporting social structure or government contributing to what they did.
 
devildavid said:
What sort of groups? And what were they effective in doing? This must be independent of any larger supporting social structure or government contributing to what they did.
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the Mafia for one.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yeah there was, some Jew got crucified 2,000 years ago.
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Jesus was not the "Kingdom of Heaven." He was "King of the Jews." Also, Jesus was crucified during the early 30s, not the year 21.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
Jesus was not the "Kingdom of Heaven." He was "King of the Jews." Also, Jesus was crucified during the early 30s, not the year 21.
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1. No, the Kingdom of Heaven will be signaled by his second coming
2. The Bible gives him a royal bloodline, but where's the evidence that he was the biological successor to David and Solomon ?
3. I was rounding up to 2,000...since the precise dates of Jesus' birth and death are unknown.
 
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