Do you approve or disaprove of George W. Bush?

[Navy Pride]

You avoided refuting all of these points that you support, how come?

I coveredf all of them..its and act.........It won't work though.......The only person she is fooling is you.........

 

[Navy Pride]

Damn you Champs, don't even start...........you know Navy is a partisan slave, leave it alone.:roll:

If you want to suck up to champs get a room will ya........:rofl

 

[Deegan]

If you want to suck up to champs get a room will ya........:rofl

LOL, everyone thinks they know me here, it's funny!:2wave:

 

[Navy Pride]

LOL, everyone thinks they know me here, it's funny!:2wave:

My daddy always told me If it walks like a duck and quakes like a duck then its usually a duck my friend...

 

[26 X World Champs]

LOL, everyone thinks they know me here, it's funny!:2wave:

Consider the source as you wrote! While you and I respect each other's opinions it is obvious to almost anyone that we sit on different sides of the aisle.

The reality is that with a few exceptions people are people and get along quite well regardless of political affiliation. I think this forum ceates an artificial wall that separates people by political party when in everyday life that really doesn't happen. I'm beting that Bush would make a great drinking buddy (back in the day) despite his being so ignorant (that's what makes him lovable outside of politics).

 

[Hoot]

I feel Bush's hard line stance on foriegn policy is also a good thing which is needed in these days of great uncertainty with so many anti-American sentiments proliferating throughout all corners of the world.

Most people see this as "cause and effect."

In otherwords, Bush's hard line stance is directly attributable to the increase in anti-American sentiment.

 

[Navy Pride]

Most people see this as "cause and effect."

In otherwords, Bush's hard line stance is directly attributable to the increase in anti-American sentiment.

I wouldn't say that most people see this as a "cause and effect." just people who want to pander to the Europeans...........Don't worry when the Europeans need us to bail them out again they will be our friends.....

 

[26 X World Champs]

Most people see this as "cause and effect."

In otherwords, Bush's hard line stance is directly attributable to the increase in anti-American sentiment.

I agree completely! Bush ahs done more for anti-Americanism than all President before him.

I travel outside of the USA for my job, more than 100+ days each year to Asia & Europe and until Bush I always felt welcomed anywhere I went in the world simply because I was an American. These days as you know Americans feel they must put a Canadian Flag on their luggage for fear that they will be hurt simply for being an American.

It is ALL-BUSH this dislike for Americans. Clinton was beloved (still is). Bush comes across outside of the States exactly for what he is, an ignorant, unsophisiticated macho loser. People around the world knows he's a liar and worse, he started a war on lies, he attacked another nation for bogus reasons.

Let's remember that first we invaded Iraq for WMDs. When they were not found Bush changed his story to looking for terrorists. When that too proved to be false (except for the terrorists that HE created) he rewrote history again and claimed to invade Iraq to democratize them and the region.

His disasterous policies are costing everyone of us. Thank God we're entering the end of his term and he's almost a complete lame duck now. Thank God that Americans have awoken to his bullshit and now consider him to be worthless as a President. When one's approval rating hovers around 30% you know that he's lost everything....Thank God!

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Most people see this as "cause and effect."

In otherwords, Bush's hard line stance is directly attributable to the increase in anti-American sentiment.

Dude bullshit what decade are you living in? After the fall of the Soviet Union in the 80s anti-U.S. sentiment took effect.

 

[jfuh]

Dude bullshit what decade are you living in? After the fall of the Soviet Union in the 80s anti-U.S. sentiment took effect.

ARe you saying that there was no anti-US sentiment before the fall of the of the Soviet Union? Just asking because, well, you know, the soviet union was very hard core in the anti-US sentiment arena.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

ARe you saying that there was no anti-US sentiment before the fall of the of the Soviet Union? Just asking because, well, you know, the soviet union was very hard core in the anti-US sentiment arena.

No I should have used the more descriptive phrase of "rampant anti-Americanism."

 

[jfuh]

No I should have used the more descriptive phrase of "rampant anti-Americanism."

That still existed before the the fall of the USSR.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

That still existed before the the fall of the USSR.

No not as much, there was anti-Americanism but between the choice of the U.S.S.R. and the U.S. people chose the U.S., after the fall of the Soviet regime people deflected their hatred onto America.

 

[jfuh]

No not as much, there was anti-Americanism but between the choice of the U.S.S.R. and the U.S. people chose the U.S., after the fall of the Soviet regime people deflected their hatred onto America.

You're changing your own premise now. You never said whether or not there was more of or less of, only the presence of or not.
Fact is, radicalists islamists hated us just as much as then as they do today. That hasn't changed at all. It's just we're hearing alot more of it.
Back then the USSR kept such explosive emotions under check because they knew any small conflict would have the US and the west involved blowing up to a much larger clonflict that could've included the annihalation of the world - thus the excersize of discretion and prudence. As was the same with the US, we excersized caution not to escalate or get too involved with regional conflicts.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

You're changing your own premise now. You never said whether or not there was more of or less of, only the presence of or not

That's why I said this:

No I should have used the more descriptive phrase of "rampant anti-Americanism."

Fact is, radicalists islamists hated us just as much as then as they do today.

When did I mention radical Islam? I was speaking to anti-Americanism worldwide buddy.

That hasn't changed at all. It's just we're hearing alot more of it.
Back then the USSR kept such explosive emotions under check because they knew any small conflict would have the US and the west involved blowing up to a much larger clonflict that could've included the annihalation of the world -

And that explains anti-American sentiment in the west how exactly?

thus the excersize of discretion and prudence. As was the same with the US, we excersized caution not to escalate or get too involved with regional conflicts.

Ya umm, what does this have to do with the rise of anti-Americanism?

 

[scottyz]

Most people see this as "cause and effect."

In otherwords, Bush's hard line stance is directly attributable to the increase in anti-American sentiment.

I would agree 100%. It was only after Bush's ongoing Iraq debacle that anyone in the travel industry ever advised me to pretend I was Canadian and avoid talking about Iraq or Bush while overseas. There was a great out pouring of goodwill towards us after 9/11 from around the world and Bush immediately set about ******* it all away.

 

[conserv.pat15]

I fully approve of the job President Bush is doing. I think the poll ratings are low because many people don't know the facts.

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

I fully approve of the job President Bush is doing. I think the poll ratings are low because many people don't know the facts.

Well, if you got "facts", share'em.

FACT: Bush wants amnesty for at least 12 million invading illegal aliens, most of them from Mexico. It's a huge factor in his vast and well deserved unpopularity.

FACT: Bush's lame "National Guard to the Border" ploy is viewed by most as an attempt to corral the suckers. It didn't seem to work, though. Which is good.

FACT: The Republicans are spending money like a drunken sailor that got ahold of a marine's credit card. Bush, as the top Republican, and as the president with the Lost Veto Pen, bears as much blame for this as can be given him.

FACT: Bush's Brand New Entitlement Program Drugs for Seniors is rightly regarded as a really stupid move by a president with a history of stupid moves. The "conservative" ideal is to shrink government, not grow it.

FACT: Can anyone say "Harriet Meiers"? That was a damn stupid thing that didn't help his poll ratings at all.

FACT: He lacked the balls to confront China when they rammed our EP-3 airplane and held it's crew hostage...not to mention the subsequent delivery of the plane by Fed-Ex in pieces.


He only got elected because he wasn't a Democrat. By acting as much like a Democrat as possible, he's alienated his own party base.

What kind of "facts" you got that will outweigh these and make people want to support him again?

 

[conserv.pat15]

Well, if you got "facts", share'em.

FACT: Bush wants amnesty for at least 12 million invading illegal aliens, most of them from Mexico. It's a huge factor in his vast and well deserved unpopularity.

FACT: Bush's lame "National Guard to the Border" ploy is viewed by most as an attempt to corral the suckers. It didn't seem to work, though. Which is good.

FACT: The Republicans are spending money like a drunken sailor that got ahold of a marine's credit card. Bush, as the top Republican, and as the president with the Lost Veto Pen, bears as much blame for this as can be given him.

FACT: Bush's Brand New Entitlement Program Drugs for Seniors is rightly regarded as a really stupid move by a president with a history of stupid moves. The "conservative" ideal is to shrink government, not grow it.

FACT: Can anyone say "Harriet Meiers"? That was a damn stupid thing that didn't help his poll ratings at all.

FACT: He lacked the balls to confront China when they rammed our EP-3 airplane and held it's crew hostage...not to mention the subsequent delivery of the plane by Fed-Ex in pieces.


He only got elected because he wasn't a Democrat. By acting as much like a Democrat as possible, he's alienated his own party base.

What kind of "facts" you got that will outweigh these and make people want to support him again?

So you think these things amount to disapproving the job the president is doing? At the same time ignoring all the good he has done. I don't agree with everything Bush has done(but mostly everything I agree with), but I think that a few things don't outweigh the many good things.

How is Bush giving amnesty to the illegal immigrants? When did he say he was going to grant citizenship to all of them without penalty?

Your National Guard "fact" is more your opinion.

As for the spending issue, how does Bush get all the blame. If you are gonna blame Bush for that, then you also have to blame congress(In my opinion, I think we are spending too much... I think we should cut back on all those liberal programs.)

Here are a few facts that many people forget about... Under Bush, the U.S. has freed millions of people from harsh rulers/regimes, fought terrorism and strengthend national security, lowered taxes so people can have more of their own money, grew the economy at a very fast pace, increased jobs... those are just a few of the facts that people forget about and that also outweigh any negatives people may see.

 

[Captain America]

About 2.9 out of 10 people support Bush these days. Meeting one of them is a rare pleasure. Welcome to the forum conserve.pat15.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

About 2.9 out of 10 people support Bush these days. Meeting one of them is a rare pleasure. Welcome to the forum conserve.pat15.

The only polls that matter are those ones that happen every four years in November.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

About 2.9 out of 10 people support Bush these days. Meeting one of them is a rare pleasure. Welcome to the forum conserve.pat15.

The only polls that matter are those ones that happen every four years in November.

 

[LeftyHenry]

our poll is oddly close to president bush's approval ratings. He is a little less approved of but it's closer than I expected.

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

So you think these things amount to disapproving the job the president is doing? At the same time ignoring all the good he has done. I don't agree with everything Bush has done(but mostly everything I agree with), but I think that a few things don't outweigh the many good things.

How is Bush giving amnesty to the illegal immigrants? When did he say he was going to grant citizenship to all of them without penalty?

Your National Guard "fact" is more your opinion.

As for the spending issue, how does Bush get all the blame. If you are gonna blame Bush for that, then you also have to blame congress(In my opinion, I think we are spending too much... I think we should cut back on all those liberal programs.)

Here are a few facts that many people forget about... Under Bush, the U.S. has freed millions of people from harsh rulers/regimes, fought terrorism and strengthend national security, lowered taxes so people can have more of their own money, grew the economy at a very fast pace, increased jobs... those are just a few of the facts that people forget about and that also outweigh any negatives people may see.

I think I explained how Bush gets the blame. For all the spending the government does, can't it spend two bucks to get that guy a pen he can veto bills with?

Not only that....he's the leader of the Republican party. He's like the pope. All the sins travel uphill from the sinners to the priests to the bishops to the cardinals to the pope to god. Likewise, all the stupid things the local repubbies do flows up to impact the Congressthings flows up to the President. He's done nothing to halt the process, he's done everything to help it, by signing the bills.

He's the only president to go a full term without vetoing anything. That right there should give him major disapproval hits alone.

What "good" has he done? Entertain me.