Do you agree with Massie, Khanna, and MTG reading the Epstein list names on the House floor

[Manc Skipper]

What was reading the names of the Epstein list on the House floor supposed to accomplish?

I'll abstain from voting until I'm clear on why they did this.

It gets the names out there while Trump minions redact his name from every page.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I wish you'd had the option "I don't care" available, because I really don't.

I don't think Trump's name will be mentioned

MAGA 2025

 

[PopMartian]

I wish you'd had the option "I don't care" available, because I really don't.

I don't think Trump's name will be mentioned because he and that "creep" parted ways years prior to Epstein's arrest and that is a publicly known fact.

Now it's being reported that Trump was an "FBI confidential informant" against Epstein.

I know the Democrats would love to smear Trump with such a connection, but IMO there is simply no truth to those aspersions. Just more TDS "Trump is evil so he had to be involved in all things bad...." assumption bias.

The one thing I will say is that if the "Epstein Files" provide any factual evidence of criminal acts, then the perpetrators should be prosecuted if the acts have not exceeded any statute of limitations bar.

The fact that you posted this comment means you cared.

 

[PopMartian]

Trump has to know by now that the stains on his pants can't be washed out. Epstein left his everlasting mark in Trump World. Poor Little Donnie the Sexual Predator has his fingerprints all over the secrets yet to be discovered. The Names !

 

[The AntiDonald]

What was reading the names of the Epstein list on the House floor supposed to accomplish?

I'll abstain from voting until I'm clear on why they did this.

They haven't done it yet. Where did you hear they read the list?


As of September 7, 2025, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene has not read a list of alleged Epstein co-conspirators on the House floor. Her promise to do so is contingent upon receiving a list compiled by Epstein survivors.

 

[gman]

Nothing whatsoever to be gained. Its performative politics at its dirtiest.

Chances are better to none that you’re wrong. This is national news and the American public deserves to know if it’s fake or real and if it’s real, who the players were or weren’t.

 

[PopMartian]

What Epstein list?

The list of people who kept Epstein out of Jail. The list of people who paid him millions as an advisor. The list of people who were inside the circle of an international sex trafficking ring.

What is left to discover can only come out with the victim statements and accounts before a Congressional sub-committee investigation into the corruption of the men in governments that gave him special favors.

Trump has been protecting lots of creeps.

 

[Fletch]

If there are victims out there who know the identities of people who abused them as children, they should go to the police. Anyone named before congress will be presumed guilty without benefit of trail or the ability to face or even know their accuser.

 

[Fletch]

The list of people who kept Epstein out of Jail.

Thats easy. Every AG dating back to the Clinton presidency.

Trump has been protecting lots of creeps.

Trump was protecting people during the Bien administration?? I get it that Biden wasnt really running anything, but Trump had zero influence on anything during the Biden years or the Obama and Bush years.

 

[Decypher]

What Epstein list?

lol, what a loyal foot soldier you are.

 

[Taylor]

The list of people who kept Epstein out of Jail. The list of people who paid him millions as an advisor. The list of people who were inside the circle of an international sex trafficking ring.

That's three lists. Where are these lists and how do we know they exist? The OP refers to "the epstein list" as if there's some master list somewhere.

 

[Taylor]

lol, what a loyal foot soldier you are.

lol, how uninformed you are.

Reports from the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI have concluded that no single, comprehensive "Epstein list" of clients exists in the official case files. The idea of a single, definitive client list is a misconception stemming from the release of various documents, flight logs, and contacts over the years.

 

[btthegreat]

Chances are better to none that you’re wrong. This is national news and the American public deserves to know if it’s fake or real and if it’s real, who the players were or weren’t.

That's exactly where I disagree. This is not a victim-centered process. It sure as hell is not about criminal or civil justice. Nobody will ever see the inside of a jail cell at this late date. So its all about smearing and feeding innuendo and gossip to media using guilt by association tactics. What we will see, is lives and reputations destroyed based on nothing substantive beyond a mere mention in a media created 'list' or a warped and twisted public interpretation of a redacted document.

Nothing good can come from satiating the public's bloodlust for continued Epstein scandal. Nobody is in the mood to carefully weigh and measure the context of any of this 'new information'. No. It's a feeding frenzy in a piranha infested lake.

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[SkyChief]

They haven't done it yet. Where did you hear they read the list?

I didn't know that they had not done it yet.

As of September 7, 2025, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene has not read a list of alleged Epstein co-conspirators on the House floor. Her promise to do so is contingent upon receiving a list compiled by Epstein survivors.

I'm reading between the lines, but I presume that reading the names on the list will help the Epstein survivors get closure. (?). Im sill unclear at what this hopes to accomplish. But thanks for responding.

 

[gman]

That's exactly where I disagree. This is not a victim-centered process. It sure as hell is not about criminal or civil justice. Nobody will ever see the inside of a jail cell at this late date. So its all about smearing and feeding innuendo and gossip to media using guilt by association tactics. What we will see, is lives and reputations destroyed based on nothing substantive beyond a mere mention in a media created 'list' or a warped and twisted public interpretation of a redacted document.

Nothing good can come from satiating the public's bloodlust for continued Epstein scandal. Nobody is in the mood to carefully weigh and measure the context of any of this 'new information'. No. It's a feeding frenzy in a piranha infested lake.

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That’s just your opinion.

 

[Decypher]

lol, how uninformed you are.

Reports from the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI have concluded that no single, comprehensive "Epstein list" of clients exists in the official case files. The idea of a single, definitive client list is a misconception stemming from the release of various documents, flight logs, and contacts over the years.

sure buddy

 

[The Brad Dad]

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Now it's being reported that Trump was an "FBI confidential informant" against Epstein.

I know the Democrats would love to smear Trump with such a connection, but IMO there is simply no truth to those aspersions. Just more TDS "Trump is evil so he had to be involved in all things bad...." assumption bias.

It was "reported" by Mike Johnson, who is not a Democrat.

 

[gman]

That's exactly where I disagree. This is not a victim-centered process. It sure as hell is not about criminal or civil justice. Nobody will ever see the inside of a jail cell at this late date. So its all about smearing and feeding innuendo and gossip to media using guilt by association tactics. What we will see, is lives and reputations destroyed based on nothing substantive beyond a mere mention in a media created 'list' or a warped and twisted public interpretation of a redacted document.

Nothing good can come from satiating the public's bloodlust for continued Epstein scandal. Nobody is in the mood to carefully weigh and measure the context of any of this 'new information'. No. It's a feeding frenzy in a piranha infested lake.

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Let’s look at it this way. A guy commits a robbery and gets away with over a million dollars. The police know that he couldn’t have pulled of the heist without help but they don’t know who helped him. The perp gets caught and dies while awaiting trial, but the cops still don’t know who aided and abetted him in the crime. Are the cops supposed to say, “oh well, he’s dead. Let’s just drop the whole thing?” Move along folks there’s nothing to see here.

 

[btthegreat]

Jeffrey Epstein left 160 million dollars in a Trust called 1953 and it's remains are unaccounted for by Federal audits. The Lawyers want to file charges on behalf of the victims buy using congress to unseal the Government Files on a convicted Pedo and former Trump business advisor and frie

Let’s look at it this way. A guy commits a robbery and gets away with over a million dollars. The police know that he couldn’t have pulled of the heist without help but they don’t know who helped him. The perp gets caught and dies while awaiting trial, but the cops still don’t know who aided and abetted him in the crime. Are the cops supposed to say, “oh well, he’s dead. Let’s just drop the whole thing?” Move along folks there’s nothing to see here.

Oh I am fine with the cops pursuing this, and the DA's office because they are pursuing justice. They have tools at their disposal which do not include running to the likes of Congress to have folks like batshit crazy Margorie naming names in the well of the House. . They get granted subpoenas from a judge weighs conflicting law enforcement interests and the public policy implications of breaking confidentiality agreements made by law enforcement with which they acquired testimony to convict Epstein and Maxwell. This investigation required that law enforcement use informants who insisted on anonymity and yes, probably immunity. Now we have both the Trump administration and Congress undermining those agreements, even risking Maxwell's conviction and sentence, to get her to 'cooperate' and name their preferred set of names for public consumption in a sweetheart deal for clemency.

None of this is about justice. Most of these 'crimes' you may get at now will be obstruction, conspiracy, facilitating, or perjury etc, have statutes of limitations attached anyway . This not about who knew what or did what at that Island that was illegal and provable. Its about weaponizing the roster of celebrities who knew Epstein and destroying influential Republicans or Democrats depending on which axe you want ground.

 

[Luce]

A list names of those who flew on his plane?

A list names of those who visited his island?

Yes.

 

[gman]

Oh I am fine with the cops pursuing this, and the DA's office because they are pursuing justice. They have tools at their disposal which do not include running to the likes of Congress to have folks like batshit crazy Margorie naming names in the well of the House. . They get granted subpoenas from a judge weighs conflicting law enforcement interests and the public policy implications of breaking confidentiality agreements made by law enforcement with which they acquired testimony to convict Epstein and Maxwell. This investigation required that law enforcement use informants who insisted on anonymity and yes, probably immunity. Now we have both the Trump administration and Congress undermining those agreements, even risking Maxwell's conviction and sentence, to get her to 'cooperate' and name their preferred set of names for public consumption in a sweetheart deal for clemency.

None of this is about justice. Most of these 'crimes' you may get at now will be obstruction, conspiracy, facilitating, or perjury etc, have statutes of limitations attached anyway . This not about who knew what or did what at that Island that was illegal and provable. Its about weaponizing the roster of celebrities who knew Epstein and destroying influential Republicans or Democrats depending on which axe you want ground.

You play the game, you pay the piper. It’s as easy as that.

 

[btthegreat]

You play the game, you pay the piper. It’s as easy as that.

This is not about who 'played the game', we are settling for people who knew people, who played the game and now we are assuming they must have either played the game or knew the game was being played, without actually demanding any showing of evidence whatsoever by any legal burdeon. What makes this all so very 'easy as that' to coin your own words, is the McCarthyistic tactics and circus that you seem so satisified with. .

"Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party" isn't the same question as " Have you ever associated with a member of the communist party" and then bringing up a Hollywood party five years ago where 'known communists' attended.

I don't know what to tell you except this atmosphere where you want Congress to lead the charge, is sooo reminiscent of the Red or Lavender scare years with J Edgar leading the law enforcement investigation, and Joe McCarthy the Senate inquiry. None of that was actually about finding and prosecuting actual espionage but ferreting out and blacklisting people and destroying careers.

That is what publishing this heretofore non-existent list is supposed to do for everyone. Its supposed to tell us who deserves to be shunned and blacklisted, not criminally charged.

 

[antiquity]

The question is straightforward.

Why not the names in in the pubic domain.

 

[btthegreat]

Why not the names in in the pubic domain.

Because either the law enforcement or the prosecutor's office made commitments to keep informants confidential, protect victims and families from intrusion, in order to get cooperation, tips, and witness testimony.

The public policy question here is whether we want govt to keep its own promises that it made to put Epstein and Maxwell behind bars now that we have actually put them behind bars, or cave to satiate the public's appetite for bloodlust and partisan Dems and Pubs desire to force other partisans out of office or power based on guilt by association.

 

[gman]

Because either the law enforcement or the prosecutor's office made commitments to keep informants confidential, protect victims and families from intrusion, in order to get cooperation, tips, and witness testimony.

The public policy question here is whether we want govt to keep its own promises that it made to put Epstein and Maxwell behind bars now that we have actually put them behind bars, or cave to satiate the public's appetite for bloodlust and partisan Dems and Pubs desire to force other partisans out of office or power based on guilt by association.

I see your point.