Do you actually care about the Epstein files?

[btthegreat]

I care about the files because the sleazy do-nothing DoJ has failed everyone on this issue (especially the victims) for going on six years now.

If the DoJ can't be bothered to do their damn job and bring all these chomos to justice, then overwhelming public pressure is needed. That happens with the release of names and specifics.

It shouldn't have to be that way. But when the executive branch actively refuses to enforce the law, especially on the matter of heinous sexual crimes committed against children, something unorthodox is very much called for.

Maybe what they lack is evidence, and the cooperation of vital witnesses, including the victims themselves. There are often as many good reasons not to file a possible charge as there are to file one.

 

[iliveonramen]

I care about Epstein, I care about the victims, I care about elites that get away with everything and treat normal people like we're cattle to keep them living well.

If there's some file or list that has some list of people that took part in either Epstein's debauchery or covered it up, pull that shit out. Lets some some of these people that are "untouchable" to jail or let them live in fear for the rest of their lives.

The problem is, who knows what the file holds, who knows if there's people that flew on Epstein's jet to raise money for some sort of worthy cause...who freaking knows. With the amount of attention and the amount of anger over this issue, I could easily see someone that did nothing wrong paying the price for being in that file.

That's why I've always been lukewarm about the release of the files.

When it comes to trolling MAGA, it's pretty obvious that their idea of those files was a long list of prominent Democrats covering things up for one another and running a pedo ring. Them being shocked that Donald Trump would be all over those files because of a very long history with Epstein, blows my mind. For people that have been so locked in on Epstein how do you miss the fact Trump was his closest friend for like a decade.

 

[BabaVoss]

Epstein was a creep and an abuser of children and young women. Glad he is gone, but people helped him and participated in his depravity and no one has ever been held accountable. Crimes like this should be punished.

As fo Trump, he was clearly buddies with the creep, and his over-the-top flip-flop with regard to releasing the information about Epstein says he doesn’t want that information to come out NOW, although he promised he would.

Just another trump flip-flop.

The man is a very talented liar,

 

[uptower]

ATTACK THE PEDOS! WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE OR WHAT THEY DID.
BUT IF THEY WENT TO EPSTEIN'S ISLAND THEN THEY MUST BE PEDOS.
WHY ELSE WOULD THEY BE THERE?

Pardon for the vigilante rant by the Epstein-obsessed anti-Trumpers.

For the record I agree, not everyone who hung out with epstein or visited him, understood or engaged in the same abuse. I doubt he welcomed them all aboard saying, "I call this the Lolita express" unless they were in the know.

But this is what we've been hearing about Clinton since Epstein first got arrested: anyone on the flight logs is a pedophile. Well, now Trump is on the logs, what's different?

And Trump's record (real or purported) with women is at least as sleazy as Clinton's ever was; likewise his hints that he knew about Epsteins "proclivities". Both the man and his reaction reveal pretty big chinks in his armor.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Yes, especially if it leads to powerful evil people being jailed and being a deterrent for others who would try to follow.

 

[yankintx]

The victims deserve justice no matter what these findings reveal. We need to quit the theatrics and settle this once and for all.

Why is Maxwell the only abuser in jail, the others are above the law?

 

[jaypatriot]

For the record I agree, not everyone who hung out with epstein or visited him, understood or engaged in the same abuse. I doubt he welcomed them all aboard saying, "I call this the Lolita express" unless they were in the know.

But this is what we've been hearing about Clinton since Epstein first got arrested: anyone on the flight logs is a pedophile. Well, now Trump is on the logs, what's different?

And Trump's record (real or purported) with women is at least as sleazy as Clinton's ever was; likewise his hints that he knew about Epsteins "proclivities". Both the man and his reaction reveal pretty big chinks in his armor.

I can see from your post you are also anxious to see how Trump's name is associated with activities on Epstein's island.

As I've written a couple of times before, if there is credible evidence that Trump was actually guilty of sexual improprieties with underage women, I would bet a lot of money the leaders in his own party (along with Democrats) would force him out the way Dick Nixon was forced to resign.

 

[Hamish Howl]

He’s got me blocked since I called him out for supporting Israel forcing birth control shots on black Ethiopian Jews, but jaypatriot is still pretending to not be a Trump supporter when he is a both-more articulate and more amoral defender of MAGA than even Mycroft, and defends the Admin’s actions to the hilt without fail no matter what they do.

Wait.

What?

 

[Hamish Howl]

I can see from your post you are also anxious to see how Trump's name is associated with activities on Epstein's island.

As I've written a couple of times before, if there is credible evidence that Trump was actually guilty of sexual improprieties with underage women, I would bet a lot of money the leaders in his own party (along with Democrats) would force him out the way Dick Nixon was forced to resign.

Nonsense.

The GOP has no morals. Why would they get excited about it?

 

[aociswundumho]

As I've written a couple of times before, if there is credible evidence that Trump was actually guilty of sexual improprieties with underage women, I would bet a lot of money the leaders in his own party (along with Democrats) would force him out the way Dick Nixon was forced to resign.

I would hope so, but I'm not so sure.

 

[Felis Leo]

Wait.

What?

I was rather shocked when I read it myself. But there it is. Not him disputing the extent of what Israel did. But defending it.

 

[Hamish Howl]

I was rather shocked when I read it myself. But there it is. No disputing the extent of what Israel did. But defending it.

Yeah.

Is it a bad sign that I was not at all shocked that this actually happened?

 

[jaypatriot]

I would hope so, but I'm not so sure.

When it comes to this questionable fiasco, who could be right about anything at this point in the story?

 

[Felis Leo]

Yeah.

Is it a bad sign that I was not at all shocked that this actually happened?

Sorry, I made a correction. There is some dispute over the extent of whether it was involuntary or if those Ethiopian Jewish women were duped by Israeli doctors (i.e., lied to and told it was a life-saving vaccine versus a birth control shot). But no one asked jay to jump on the hand grenade and tell us why Israel preventing Ethiopian women from having children was actually a good thing. He volunteered for that mission on his own.

But yeah, you called it.

 

[venice_ca]

I care about seeing those who preyed on underage females having to answer for their crimes.

I don’t care which political party they support, or which government position they may occupy/have occupied, or how wealthy they may be.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Sorry, I made a correction. There is some dispute over the extent of whether it was involuntary or if those Ethiopian Jewish women were duped by Israeli doctors (i.e., lied to and told it was a life-saving vaccine versus a birth control shot). But no one asked jay to jump on the hand grenade and tell us why Israel preventing Ethiopian women from having children was actually a good thing. He volunteered for that mission on his own.

Involuntary sterilization is in fact a genocidal act, regardless of how they do it.

Not consenting to a procedure is not consenting to a procedure. The lying actually makes it worse.

But again, I am totally not shocked by the fact that he volunteered for that mission. It was absolutely in character.

 

[jaypatriot]

Nonsense.

The GOP has no morals. Why would they get excited about it?

Nixon's own party members, along with Democrat party members, convinced him to resign.
It is not outside the realm of possibility, if the evidence it there, for Trump to meet the same fate.

"Based on the strength of the evidence presented and the bipartisan support for the articles in committee, House leaders of both political parties concluded that Nixon's impeachment by the full House was a certainty if it reached the House floor for a final vote, and that his conviction in a Senate trial was a distinct possibility."

Impeachment process against Richard Nixon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[aociswundumho]

When it comes to this questionable fiasco, who could be right about anything at this point in the story?

If there was strong evidence that Trump was ever at that island, that would be enough for me.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Nixon's own party members, along with Democrat party members, convinced him to resign.

That was then. There were conservatives involved.

Now there's just dumbass populists who are totally okay with pedophilia.

 

[yankintx]

It’s not now. Bondi said she had files. Then no list. Trump is stating it’s a fake list created by Obama. This is the head of our government. This is not a small thing.

Epstein was arrested in 2019, who was President?

Trump will throw ANYTHING at the wall and see if it sticks. Obama was well out of it by 2019. What's next, it's Hillarys fault ?

 

[uptower]

I can see from your post you are also anxious to see how Trump's name is associated with activities on Epstein's island.

As I've written a couple of times before, if there is credible evidence that Trump was actually guilty of sexual improprieties with underage women, I would bet a lot of money the leaders in his own party (along with Democrats) would force him out the way Dick Nixon was forced to resign.

Sure I'd like to know if there's more, as any detractor would.

But I'm also satisfied with the current certainty that they were buddies, birds of a feather (at least to some extent) and that really winds up both Trump and the fanboiz whop tie their egos to his tallywacker.

Don't be one.

As for forcing him out like Nixon, we got him live on tape on Jan 6 inciting a coup. They could have done it then, They don't have the balls.

 

[yankintx]

The Epstein story has the comic element of MAGA turning one of their conspiracy theories on their own.

And now the CT is biting then in the arse, it's like a really bad soap opera of ineptitude.

 

[jaypatriot]

If there was strong evidence that Trump was ever at that island, that would be enough for me.

SO anyone visiting that island was guilty of sexually abusing young girls regardless if there was evidence such abuse took place?
That's a pretty harsh indictment without the benefit of a trial.

 

[aociswundumho]

SO anyone visiting that island was guilty of sexually abusing young girls regardless if there was evidence such abuse took place?

Being on his child abuse island is evidence.

 

[j brown's body]

Count me as one of those who has never cared about the Epstein files and still doesn't. If there was anything in there that could have been used for political purposes it would have come out a long, long time ago. At this point it is all stupid conspiracy/partisan nonsense.

I'm wondering about Trump's and Epstein's shared secret.