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Do Waiting Periods Work?

jonny5

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Ok, hidden agenda. I just bought my first rifle with my 'stimulus' check and wanted to brag. Its a Savage XP .308 if you're interested. I plan on mainly just having fun at the range, but its always useful to have a tool and skill for hunting.

Anyway, im in Florida, and we only used to have a three day waiting period on handguns. Since the Parkland shooting, when a guy passed a background check, bought a rifle, and then shot someones a year later, we now have a three day waiting period on rifles too. Which is pretty annoying. I still have one day to wait to go pick up, and thought I would ask if this waiting has any real point?
 
jonny5 said:
Ok, hidden agenda. I just bought my first rifle with my 'stimulus' check and wanted to brag. Its a Savage XP .308 if you're interested. I plan on mainly just having fun at the range, but its always useful to have a tool and skill for hunting.

Anyway, im in Florida, and we only used to have a three day waiting period on handguns. Since the Parkland shooting, when a guy passed a background check, bought a rifle, and then shot someones a year later, we now have a three day waiting period on rifles too. Which is pretty annoying. I still have one day to wait to go pick up, and thought I would ask if this waiting has any real point?
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Congrats on the new rifle! I'm sure you will enjoy it. 3-day waiting period doesn't do much IMO. Evil people who do these things at the very least have a loose plan. Waiting an extra couple of days is not likely to change that plan. But, I can see how a waiting period may offer some reflection on those who intend to do self harm.
 
I don't think a waiting period is of any use at all.

Unlike the proposed, universal background checks, I can't see a possible objective.
 
jonny5 said:
Ok, hidden agenda. I just bought my first rifle with my 'stimulus' check and wanted to brag. Its a Savage XP .308 if you're interested. I plan on mainly just having fun at the range, but its always useful to have a tool and skill for hunting.

Anyway, im in Florida, and we only used to have a three day waiting period on handguns. Since the Parkland shooting, when a guy passed a background check, bought a rifle, and then shot someones a year later, we now have a three day waiting period on rifles too. Which is pretty annoying. I still have one day to wait to go pick up, and thought I would ask if this waiting has any real point?
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That's infringing.
 
Artymoon said:
Congrats on the new rifle! I'm sure you will enjoy it. 3-day waiting period doesn't do much IMO. Evil people who do these things at the very least have a loose plan. Waiting an extra couple of days is not likely to change that plan. But, I can see how a waiting period may offer some reflection on those who intend to do self harm.
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WOuldnt they just find a simpler way? Doing a background check and buying a gun and ammo (which arent cheap), even without a waiting period, seems like a difficult way to do self harm.
 
Exquisitor said:
That's infringing.
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Is denying guns to felons an infringement ?

If the government said that in order to deny guns being sold to felons, it was necessary to conduct background checks and these could take three days - would that be an infringement ?
If so, why ?
 
jonny5 said:
WOuldnt they just find a simpler way? Doing a background check and buying a gun and ammo (which arent cheap), even without a waiting period, seems like a difficult way to do self harm.
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They certainly could find many ways but probably aren't in the best state of mind to calculate a "simpler" way. In states with no waiting periods, you can often be in and out in a short amount of time. You might be surprised the lengths that some people go to to commit self harm. Statistically, this probably represents a miniscule percentage of firearms purchased and even lower the ones who follow through.

I can certainly sympathize but I'm not in favor of waiting periods.
 
Is a waiting period meant to serve as a "cooling off" period where a person purchasing a gun might change their mind ?
 
During a raging pandemic, you're annoyed that there's a waiting period to buy a toy with your socialist check.
 
Antiwar said:
During a raging pandemic, you're annoyed that there's a waiting period to buy a toy with your socialist check.
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Someone might seize his toilet rolls...

Stimulus checks are not socialism. Milton Keynes, in the 1930's, spoke of "socializing demand" by government initiating spending power into the population
He wasn't a socialist, that is socializing supply, the means of production.
 
jonny5 said:
Ok, hidden agenda. I just bought my first rifle with my 'stimulus' check and wanted to brag. Its a Savage XP .308 if you're interested. I plan on mainly just having fun at the range, but its always useful to have a tool and skill for hunting.

Anyway, im in Florida, and we only used to have a three day waiting period on handguns. Since the Parkland shooting, when a guy passed a background check, bought a rifle, and then shot someones a year later, we now have a three day waiting period on rifles too. Which is pretty annoying. I still have one day to wait to go pick up, and thought I would ask if this waiting has any real point?
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No, next question?
 
Most gun owners have more than one gun. So, while I wait 10 days in Cali (called cooling off period), what prevents me from leaving the gun store after purchase of 3rd gun and going out and committing crimes with the first gun I bought years ago?
 
VySky said:
Most gun owners have more than one gun. So, while I wait 10 days in Cali (called cooling off period), what prevents me from leaving the gun store after purchase of 3rd gun and going out and committing crimes with the first gun I bought years ago?
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What stops you from waiting 3 days for your 1st gun and doing likewise ?
 
jonny5 said:
Ok, hidden agenda. I just bought my first rifle with my 'stimulus' check and wanted to brag. Its a Savage XP .308 if you're interested. I plan on mainly just having fun at the range, but its always useful to have a tool and skill for hunting.

Anyway, im in Florida, and we only used to have a three day waiting period on handguns. Since the Parkland shooting, when a guy passed a background check, bought a rifle, and then shot someones a year later, we now have a three day waiting period on rifles too. Which is pretty annoying. I still have one day to wait to go pick up, and thought I would ask if this waiting has any real point?
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If they did, you would expect FL and CA to have a significantly lower murder rate than TX.
 
jonny5 said:
Ok, hidden agenda. I just bought my first rifle with my 'stimulus' check and wanted to brag. Its a Savage XP .308 if you're interested. I plan on mainly just having fun at the range, but its always useful to have a tool and skill for hunting.

Anyway, im in Florida, and we only used to have a three day waiting period on handguns. Since the Parkland shooting, when a guy passed a background check, bought a rifle, and then shot someones a year later, we now have a three day waiting period on rifles too. Which is pretty annoying. I still have one day to wait to go pick up, and thought I would ask if this waiting has any real point?
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I have never had to undergo a waiting period for a gun so I hope you don't mind if I ask a few questions. So did you already purchase the rifle, pay all the applicable taxes/fees, and already pass a background check? Is there anything that could prevent you from picking up the rifle, along store refusal or state changing mind on background check lines? If so can you get full refund? And is there any extra handling fee after 3 days when you go back to get your rifle?


To answer your question. I am sure that if someone searched hard enough they could find a handfull of stories claiming the waiting period was beneficial in preventing a shooting or suicide. So with that said I could possibly be open to a waiting period on someone's first gun purchase, but after that no waiting period on subsequent purchases.
 
jonny5 said:
Ok, hidden agenda. I just bought my first rifle with my 'stimulus' check and wanted to brag. Its a Savage XP .308 if you're interested. I plan on mainly just having fun at the range, but its always useful to have a tool and skill for hunting.

Anyway, im in Florida, and we only used to have a three day waiting period on handguns. Since the Parkland shooting, when a guy passed a background check, bought a rifle, and then shot someones a year later, we now have a three day waiting period on rifles too. Which is pretty annoying. I still have one day to wait to go pick up, and thought I would ask if this waiting has any real point?
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I would imagine it has an impact on suicides and 'crimes of passion'.
 
Rich2018 said:
Is denying guns to felons an infringement ?

If the government said that in order to deny guns being sold to felons, it was necessary to conduct background checks and these could take three days - would that be an infringement ?
If so, why ?
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So it's not an infringment for me to make you take a class?
 
mrjurrs said:
I would imagine it has an impact on suicides and 'crimes of passion'.
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Is there a shortage of bridges and 5+ story parking garages where you live?
 
Exquisitor said:
So it's not an infringment for me to make you take a class?
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Not at all. You can't drive a car (on a public road that is - in case DebateChallenge is reading) without passing a test

We ban the mentally incompetent from having guns with no argument, what's the problem in asking a prospective gun owner to prove they can handle a gun safely ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Not at all. You can't drive a car (on a public road that is - in case DebateChallenge is reading) without passing a test

We ban the mentally incompetent from having guns with no argument, what's the problem in asking a prospective gun owner to prove they can handle a gun safely ?
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If that requirement is needed to get a CCP then the analogy to a city street would be vaild, and I actually agree to some testing for a CCP. However I would never support a law that would require anyone to undergo and testing to own a weapon on their personal property.

Also nione should have to prove they cab exercise a right the government needs to prove why that peraon should be denied
 
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