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Galt - nobody is telling you to love it or leave it. All I am saying is that if somebody does not like the situation here and objects loudly to it with very little chance of getting what they want, perhaps they should exercise their freedom of choice and try to do better elsewhere.
Why do you think they bail out the businesses in the first place? It is not because there is nothing explicitly preventing them from doing so, even if there was that wouldn't stop them.
Would you have said the same thing to abolitionists in 1800? In 1800, there were as many abolitionists as there are libertarians now. And every abolitionist in 1800 would have very little chance of actually getting what they want in their own lifetime. Should they simply move?
You're saying that just because I don't fall into the mainstream, I should leave.
First, I honestly have no idea what I would have said to anybody back in 1800.
Second, how do you know the number of libertarians and abolitionists are about the same?
Third, leave or stay as you see fit.
I guess, what you're saying in the OP is that in a libertarian state, the government would be so weak, that it would be subject to overthrow or corruption by other powerful interests.
My response is that a libertarian government still has all of mechanisms needed for it to work. It still has police, a military, and courts.
The state is still fully capable of putting down unrest.
My point is, I don't see how all the extra stuff you want to add on, like entitlements, welfare, and other programs, would add to the stability and prevent fascism.
I say what I mean and I mean what I say. It would greatly further discussion if you did not interpret my words, twist my words, or attempt to change my words from what I wrote.
I do not need anyone to defend my statement. There is nothing to defend... or attack. You are a free citizen to leave this land or to stay her as you see fit. That is not an opinion, but a fact and as such needs no defense.
This is what falls out of one's mouth when they have completely run out of legitimate criticisms. According to my program, ad hominem is up to bat next."leave or stay as you see fit."
Would anyone else like to defend Haymarket's argument?
Galt - if you stay, of course you are free to exercise your rights as a citizen. Why would you not?
it looks like we both agree
I never said stay and you have no rights
You have addressed nothing.
All you have are things you suppose and things you conjecture. You haven't provided one iota of proof.
But you have NEVER addressed libertarian philosophy.
There is nothing else in this world that has improved the livelihood of so many people than a more open market.
it is the actions of millions of people facilitating mutual aid, out of self interest.
But that isn't true, no self respecting libertarian would argue that, it's hyperbole.
Libertarianism is a smaller, logically and rationally implemented government.
Cato documents, practically, all the stances they take with fact based evidence.
Libertarians laugh at the idea that they consider the free market a "godhead"
but there are those who certainly consider it a near-supernatural devil.
The free market is the most voluntarily cooperative system ever devised by man.
Perhaps you can name a Fascist regime under which the government was limited.
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