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Do conservatives think a Republican administration should use political pressure to force other countries to adopt anti abortion laws?

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Do conservatives think a Republican administration should use political pressure to force other countries to adopt anti abortion laws?
 
Do conservatives think a Republican administration should use political pressure to force other countries to adopt anti abortion laws?
I don't.

I also don't think the US should use taxpayer money to promote abortion in other countries. Let them make up their own minds and pay for their own decisions.
 
I'm not overly interested in what other countries do with their laws. It wouldn't bother me it other countries banned abortion but I'm not going to campaign for it. We have our hands full here with our division over abortion. I get sick to death hearing the left talk about being caring and seeking fair treatment and wanting equity, and then slaughtering unborn babies at nearly a million a year.
 
I rarely agree with the first two replies to this thread however their views on this topic are entirely reasonable and pragmatic.
 
Do conservatives think a Republican administration should use political pressure to force other countries to adopt anti abortion laws?
Yes, conservative Republicans not only think the they should force other countries to adopt anti-abortion laws they have enacted the Helms Amendment which prevents the federal government from giving aid to countries that have legal abortions. Conservatives use the Helms Amendment to withdraw funding from any women's reproductive clinic that mentions abortion to a patient.
 
Huh? I am a fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and I could care less about the abortion issue.

There are so many different types of conservatives, and a good many of them also could give a shit either way on abortion.

 
Do conservatives think a Republican administration should use political pressure to force other countries to adopt anti abortion laws?

well first million of conservatives support womans rights and second the ones that dont I would hope this is not an interest because it would be a complete waste

the abortion issue isnt really an issue in a lot of country . .it is in some but in many its not.

The majority of first world countries that have governments similar to ours based on rights and freedoms have laws that lean prochoice
the countries that dont are often dictatorships, theocracyies and governments that are NOT based on rights and freedoms

america is not going backwards on women's legal, human, civil and equal rights and neither are most other countries that already have them established

abortions is a manufactured issue by extremists on the topic
 
Huh? I am a fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and I could care less about the abortion issue.

There are so many different types of conservatives, and a good many of them also could give a shit either way on abortion.

Agreed. I am conservative and pro choice. Like you, I am mostly fiscally conservative, but I do have some conservative social views.

ETA: As to the OP, I don't think the US should be interfering in other countries on most topics. I recall when Canada talked about legalizing weed, I think it was in the Bush jr years. The US put pressure on our PM to not do it. It was none of the US's business.
 
I'm not overly interested in what other countries do with their laws. It wouldn't bother me it other countries banned abortion but I'm not going to campaign for it. We have our hands full here with our division over abortion. I get sick to death hearing the left talk about being caring and seeking fair treatment and wanting equity, and then slaughtering unborn babies at nearly a million a year.
You should listen a lot more than....
 
I'm not overly interested in what other countries do with their laws. It wouldn't bother me it other countries banned abortion but I'm not going to campaign for it. We have our hands full here with our division over abortion. I get sick to death hearing the left talk about being caring and seeking fair treatment and wanting equity, and then slaughtering unborn babies at nearly a million a year.
If you ban elective abortion, then you also end fair treatment and equity for women.

The born and unborn cannot be treated equally under the law. If they can be, please explain. And the right to have an abortion is supported by several amendments protecting due process, bodily autonomy, reproductive rights, and family and medical privacy. The unborn have no rights. This is supported in the 1st section of the 14th Amendment and many SCOTUS decisions reinforcing it (not only on the topic of abortion).

So...why are the unborn more deserving of fair treatment and equity than women?
 
Do conservatives think a Republican administration should use political pressure to force other countries to adopt anti abortion laws?
only if it's in our interest to do so.

i hardly care if other nations want to murder their own young. It's their population, it's their guilt, they don't need us to help them.
 
I'm not overly interested in what other countries do with their laws. It wouldn't bother me it other countries banned abortion but I'm not going to campaign for it. We have our hands full here with our division over abortion. I get sick to death hearing the left talk about being caring and seeking fair treatment and wanting equity, and then slaughtering unborn babies at nearly a million a year.
You think conservatives don't get abortions?
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well first million of conservatives support womans rights and second the ones that dont I would hope this is not an interest because it would be a complete waste
Perhaps million of conservatives support abortion rights but they are in hiding because they are not countering the many millions more of conservatives that are for banning abortion.
the abortion issue isnt really an issue in a lot of country . .it is in some but in many its not.
It is to most women.
The majority of first world countries that have governments similar to ours based on rights and freedoms have laws that lean prochoice. the countries that dont are often dictatorships, theocracyies and governments that are NOT based on rights and freedoms
There is new and strong pressure from 'Christians" in 1st world countries to ban abortion: see Poland
america is not going backwards on women's legal, human, civil and equal rights and neither are most other countries that already have them established
Mississippi, Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri et al. Fulton v. City of Philadelphia, Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, Dobbs v Jackson's Women's Health Organization etc. We are going backwards.
abortions is a manufactured issue by extremists on the topic
Yes, it was started by Falwell and Weyrich to distract evangelicals racist focus on their all white, Christian, segregated church schools.

This is an issue that vitally concerns most women.
 
Perhaps million of conservatives support abortion rights but they are in hiding because they are not countering the many millions more of conservatives that are for banning abortion.
they arent in hiding at all and there's no way to counter them just the majority of the US also doesn't couter them
the extremists will be extremists
It is to most women.
huh?
no its not . . you arent reading that right
what i mean by its not an issue is many other countries dont see it as an actual topic . . they have pro choice and that's that
nah one country doesn't concern me
and most tons of chrisitinas are ok with prochoice "law"
Mississippi, Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri et al. Fulton v. City of Philadelphia, Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, Dobbs v Jackson's Women's Health Organization etc. We are going backwards.
nope RvW is still the law of the land and many times states, counties, cities pass laws and then later they fail after time
im not concern . . this little battles will not do anything IMO to the war
Yes, it was started by Falwell and Weyrich to distract evangelicals racist focus on their all white, Christian, segregated church schools.

This is an issue that vitally concerns most women.
well they could have a general concern when it comes to their rights but America wont be going backwards on it 🤷‍♂️

the nutters can have their little battles but over all and when they are done stomping their feet woman will not be losing their legal, human, civil and equal rights in america becoming second class citizens
 
they arent in hiding at all and there's no way to counter them just the majority of the US also doesn't couter them
the extremists will be extremists

huh?
no its not . . you arent reading that right
what i mean by its not an issue is many other countries dont see it as an actual topic . . they have pro choice and that's that

nah one country doesn't concern me
and most tons of chrisitinas are ok with prochoice "law"

nope RvW is still the law of the land and many times states, counties, cities pass laws and then later they fail after time
im not concern . . this little battles will not do anything IMO to the war

well they could have a general concern when it comes to their rights but America wont be going backwards on it 🤷‍♂️

the nutters can have their little battles but over all and when they are done stomping their feet woman will not be losing their legal, human, civil and equal rights in america becoming second class citizens
We don't have to argue whether women's rights are going backward or not. The SC is about to make that decision for us.
 
We don't have to argue whether women's rights are going backward or not. The SC is about to make that decision for us.
theres nothing currently to argue, in America overall they arent currently
IMO they never will . . . .

I honestly believe its an issue people would take to the streets over and rightfully so
 
theres nothing currently to argue, in America overall they arent currently
IMO they never will . . . . I honestly believe its an issue people would take to the streets over and rightfully so
You are right. As a male, you are not worried about the possibility that women's right to make personal decisions about reproduction may be curtailed by the SC.
 
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Yes, conservative Republicans not only think the they should force other countries to adopt anti-abortion laws they have enacted the Helms Amendment which prevents the federal government from giving aid to countries that have legal abortions. Conservatives use the Helms Amendment to withdraw funding from any women's reproductive clinic that mentions abortion to a patient.

You just had two conservative Republicans before you say the opposite. You should really stop broad-brushing entire groups of people. Because some pro-choicers think that a fetus isn't a human life, does that mean I should say that all pro-choicers believe that?
 
We don't have to argue whether women's rights are going backward or not. The SC is about to make that decision for us.

"Women's rights" shouldn't include killing other humans.
 
You just had two conservative Republicans before you say the opposite. You should really stop broad-brushing entire groups of people.
We are talking about conservative Republicans, right?

"Republicans Remain a Majority Conservative Party"
"The percentage of Republicans calling themselves conservative has increased, rising 15 points since 1994. This occurred in two phases:
• After averaging 61% from 1994 to 2002, the percentage of Republicans identifying as conservative jumped to 66% in 2003 and stayed near that level through 2007.
• In 2008, a presidential election year that culminated in the race between Obama and John McCain, the percentage of Republicans identifying as conservative rose to 70% and has since ranged from 68% to 73%.
The 73% of Republicans identifying as conservative in 2018 matches the high point in the trend, previously recorded in 2012."

OK so 73% of Republicans identify as conservative. And the question is : "Do conservatives think a Republican administration should use political pressure to force other countries to adopt anti- abortion laws"

The 2016 Republican Party platform says:
....... we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to children before birth.
We oppose the use of public funds to perform or promote abortion or to fund organizations, like Planned Parenthood, so long as they provide or refer for elective abortions or sell fetal body parts rather than provide healthcare.

....... We do not support the U.N. Convention on Women’s Rights.....

...... a Republican administration will return the advocacy of religious liberty to a central place in its diplomacy .......

...... Foreign assistance programs must not only project the best of American values, but must work to create self-sustainability and leverage the resources and capacity of the private sector. Even more important is the overseas assistance .... provided by America’s foundations, educational institutions, faith-based groups, and charitable individuals. Their essential role in international development should be weighed in any revision of the tax code........

....... The United States needs a radical rethinking of our human rights diplomacy. A Republican administration will adopt a “whole of government” approach to protect fundamental freedoms globally, one where pressing human rights and rule of law issues are integrated at every appropriate level of our bilateral relationships and strategic decision- making. .......


So, it would appear that except for the 2 cited posters above my statement: "....conservative Republicans not only think the they should force other countries to adopt anti-abortion laws, they have enacted the Helms Amendment which prevents the federal government from giving aid to countries that have legal abortions...." is not only correct it is official party ideology.
 
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