Do any conservatives here agree with me that this is deplorable?

[ttwtt78640]

Nope, I live in Georgia and I found it funny. What is wrong with sending people who are here illegally back where they came from? Why can't they follow our laws and come here legally? If I entered their country illegally and demanded to be taken care of by the taxpayers of that country I would go to jail, or sent home. Why do the democrats want to import welfare recipients from all over the world? Oh yeah, for votes. Pretending to care about these people is so transparent.

The better question is: why do we allow a system where these 'criminals' can be legally employed? If we took that opportunity away then they would either not come here initially or self-deport to where they could find employment. A (relatively) simple solution would be to change the IRS code to require an annual eVerify certification of each (W-2 or 1099) employee to accompany the deduction of any direct labor costs.

 

[pinqy]

The better question is: why do we allow a system where these 'criminals' can be legally employed?

First, not everything illegal is a crime. Unlawful presence is a civil violation and violates face no criminal charges.
Second, it is not allowed for non-immigrant aliens to work without proper authorization: which cannot be obtained if not here in a legal status.

 

[pinqy]

Nope, I live in Georgia and I found it funny. What is wrong with sending people who are here illegally back where they came from? Why can't they follow our laws and come here legally?

If I remember correctly, around half of illegal immigrants in the U.S. did come here legally.

So to be clear: you are only concerned about those who entered illegally and not visa-overstays and others out of legal status?

 

[RileyCoyote]

If I remember correctly, around half of illegal immigrants in the U.S. did come here legally.

So to be clear: you are only concerned about those who entered illegally and not visa-overstays and others out of legal status?

I am against anyone who does not go through the proper immigration laws we have on the books. If you want to come to America then get in line and do so legally.

 

[ttwtt78640]

First, not everything illegal is a crime. Unlawful presence is a civil violation and violates face no criminal charges.
Second, it is not allowed for non-immigrant aliens to work without proper authorization: which cannot be obtained if not here in a legal status.

Speeding on public roadways is not 'allowed' either yet it happens on a regular basis. My point is simply that the laws preventing the employment of 'undocumented' workers are not being effectively enforced.

 

[pinqy]

I am against anyone who does not go through the proper immigration laws we have on the books. If you want to come to America then get in line and do so legally.

That is not answering my question. If a person comes here legally, but then either violates the conditions of the visa or stays past the terms of the visa they are no longer in a legal status.

But by your words, you are NOT against this group because they originally did enter legally. Is that actually your position?

 

[RileyCoyote]

That is not answering my question. If a person comes here legally, but then either violates the conditions of the visa or stays past the terms of the visa they are no longer in a legal status.

But by your words, you are NOT against this group because they originally did enter legally. Is that actually your position?

No, if you break our laws then you should gtfo. We gave you an opportunity, so get back in line. Does that clear it up for you?

 

[Blue Dog]

In this ad. Brian Kemp gets in his large pickup truck and says, "I got a big truck just in case I need to round up criminal illegals and take them home myself."

He's basically encouraging vigilante violence against illegal immigrants. You can be in favor of stronger immigration policies without encouraging violence against people who are just trying to feed their families.

Are there any conservatives who DON'T think this ad is deplorable?





I'd really like to hear from conservatives.

It’s an over the top bombastic political AD.

Period

 

[pinqy]

Speeding on public roadways is not 'allowed' either yet it happens on a regular basis. My point is simply that the laws preventing the employment of 'undocumented' workers are not being effectively enforced.

But that’s not what you wrote. You wrote “why do we allow a situation where these “criminals” can be legally employed.”

The answer is that unlawful presence by itself is not a crime (and illegal entry is a misdemeanor offense) so your characterization of “criminals” is incorrect, and we do not allow them to be legally employed.

That the laws on hiring are not well enforced doesn’t make it lawful.

 

[ttwtt78640]

But that’s not what you wrote. You wrote “why do we allow a situation where these “criminals” can be legally employed.”

The answer is that unlawful presence by itself is not a crime (and illegal entry is a misdemeanor offense) so your characterization of “criminals” is incorrect, and we do not allow them to be legally employed.

That the laws on hiring are not well enforced doesn’t make it lawful.

Misdemeanors are still crimes - pretending otherwise is pure BS.

 

[pinqy]

Misdemeanors are still crimes - pretending otherwise is pure BS.

I’m not. I don’t think tracking down misdemeanors should be a priority for law enforcement, though. But unlawful presence is NOT a crime. An about half of those entered legally.

A person legally comes here on a visa...overstays the visa and gets a job. That person has not committed a crime. Violated the law, yes, but not a criminal violation. So again your characterization is incorrect.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I cannot find it in my heart to hate desperate people trying to better their lives.

Hate isn't the problem. It is manufactured by the left top say we "hate" them.

But there are real issues needing real solutions. So Im not an "open borders" person. But I'd be down with a guest worker program.

Sure, if we are at 100% employment and need more workers, why not?

The focus right-wing media puts is against the poor folks looking for a better life and not those who draw them here by hiring them.

I don't see it that way. We can't help everyone who is poor, and we especially shouln't help those who come here illegally.

This is intentional and the result of paid for manipulation.

There is much genuine hate for illegals on the right with little to no condemnation of the employer side of the equation.

Think for a minute on why that is.

There are a few factors. For one, it is too easy for them to get fake ID. And yes, many employers look the other way.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Here's another completely real campaign ad.



Yes, we have fallen this far down the stupid hole.

It's a cute way to touch on issues and have people remember much more than can be put in a short ad.

I'm sorry you dislike it.

 

[Lord of Planar]

We don't need to pull up the video of schoolchildren singing a homage to Obama again, do we?

Yes, we do. They have such short memories. they can't even remember a single broken campaign promise by the left.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I'm asking YOU. Why doesn't Trump talk about imprisoning the people who employ illegal aliens? These poor people come here for WORK. That's the CAUSE. Why not focus on the CAUSE?

You will have no answer but the answer is obvious.

These rich Republicans need illegal alien labor. If we started jailing employers it would hurt the economy. Republicans won't admit that because it's politically useful to use illegal aliens ass scapegoats while exploiting them economically.

They have absolutely no intention of actually ending illegal immigration. They're just using it for political purposes. People like you are just not smart wenough to see you're being played.

I ask again, WHY NOT ARREST THE EMPLOYERS?

You first have to get congress to make the laws to do so. The left would stall and filibuster such things. Currently the fines are cheap when caught, compared to the extra profits of low wage workers.

Are you under the assumption the president has the power of a dictator?

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the constitution.

 

[Cardinal]

It's a cute way to touch on issues and have people remember much more than can be put in a short ad.

I'm sorry you dislike it.

I have no doubt it successfully reached its target audience.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I have no doubt it successfully reached its target audience.

As do libtarded commercials