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CLAX1911 said:

Yes they do. It happens all the time its our best triumph. We told the south no more slaves, we told the people women can vote, we told people gays have rights. This people that didn't agree sat down and shut up. We forced beliefs on our nation. We do it every time we lick someone up.

You are absolutely dead wrong to think we can't force beliefs in people.

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roguenuke said:

In schools, we absolutely should hold students to that. We should "force" them to accept that they cannot be bullys or harass other students just for things like race or religion or sexuality. If they do, they will face punishment.

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CLAX1911 said:

I have. but for the sake of it I will one more time.

There is no proof that it is abnormal yet it existes in every culture, every country, every time period. Now you need to prove that wrong, if you dint or can't it must be normal.

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Henrin said:

Should we though? Should we be using the public education system to shape the morality of children? Is that really that much different than shaping the political outlook of people? Isn't it actually the same thing? Think about it.

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Henrin said:

Should we though? Should we be using the public education system to shape the morality of children? Is that really that much different than shaping the political outlook of people? Isn't it actually the same thing? Think about it.

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roguenuke said:

And when parents don't do it, the state must step in and ensure that students are taught tolerance in order for them to be able to be in school or even later in life because otherwise they are harming others, which is not acceptable within an educational environment.

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ernst barkmann said:

if someone bullies another or hurts anyone, action must be taken, however i dont have to follow someone else thoughts on other people, its only when i step outside the law, and hurt someone, or infringe on their rights, when i face punishment.

this idea people should be molded from the polices of what the school wants to teach, ..no i am free to think as i will.

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CLAX1911 said:

Yes, we have since schools started existing. Why change now all of the sudden?

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CLAX1911 said:

Yes, we have since schools started existing. Why change now all of the sudden?

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roguenuke said:

It is best to be proactive about bullying rather than reactive. We do much better teaching children tolerance and anti-bullying no matter their religious beliefs than ignoring it til a child starts bullying another. History easily shows us the truth of this.

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ernst barkmann said:

that not proof...

people have engaged in animal sex in every culture, does that make that normal....you tell me.

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ernst barkmann said:

the state must step in............here we go!...here we go!

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Henrin said:

So public schools should be centers where we teach children morality? So you think it's actually wise to have the state teaching future generations morality? You don't find anything off about that at all?

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CLAX1911 said:

Now that is how you do it. I knew you would get it eventually.

Yes it would be normal to expect that, but it isn't acceptable but we don't teach that in school. Homosexuality is acceptable however because we don't lock people up for it we don't execute people for it there is no (reputable) therapy to undo it. So it is now very much part of or culture.

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CLAX1911 said:

They did the same with you, me my parents my grand parents my grate grand parents. They have to. that is their purpose. Schools as far back as time goes have been doing so.

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CLAX1911 said:

They did the same with you, me my parents my grand parents my grate grand parents. They have to. that is their purpose. Schools as far back as time goes have been doing so.

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roguenuke said:

It is best to be proactive about bullying rather than reactive. We do much better teaching children tolerance and anti-bullying no matter their religious beliefs than ignoring it til a child starts bullying another. History easily shows us the truth of this.

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Henrin said:

It's pretty much the same as the "private sector failed so lets give the job to the state" argument. Of course, that's hardly surprising since we are talking about public education.

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ernst barkmann said:

shall be pull out those old school text books on the 1830's and 40's an teach the bible again.

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Henrin said:

So public schools should be centers where we teach children morality? So you think it's actually wise to have the state teaching future generations morality? You don't find anything off about that at all?

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ernst barkmann said:

no matter their religious beliefs ..how nice of you.

i dont recall the bible telling anyone to go out a bully anyone.

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ernst barkmann said:

no matter their religious beliefs ..how nice of you.

i dont recall the bible telling anyone to go out a bully anyone.

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CLAX1911 said:

What if its my belief that I can be a bully and my parents support it? The school steeping in and dating its wrong is the school giving their beliefs on me.

Leave people alone.

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winston53660 said:

Are you kidding me?

Exodus 22:18: "Do not allow a sorceress to live."

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ernst barkmann said:

shall be pull out those old school text books on the 1830's and 40's an teach the bible again.

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