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msnbc print partner politico's top story this fine saturday morning:

Obama's new challenge: Disappointment - Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com

almost every day on msnbc's coffee joe either mr allen or his close associate jim vandehei makes an appearance

(these people are almost without exception so extremely young, it's a big part of their problem, politically they are very immature)

The watchword of the Republican National Convention in Tampa was disappointment — as in President Barack Obama has been one.

You can hammer Obama on health care. Mock his golf outings. Demand to see his birth certificate and Harvard transcript, and call him a European socialist bent on turning the American Dream into a Belgian nightmare. He’ll throw his head back and laugh at you like a Bond villain.

But tell voters he’s not the man America fell in love with in 2008 — and pine, however disingenuously, about his unfulfilled potential — and a shiver runs through his Chicago campaign headquarters.

Obama’s team was spinning the convention as a complete miss, arguing that Republicans didn’t lay a glove on their man. Yet what emerged from Tampa was a subtle, clever shift in GOP messaging, a much more dangerous strategy for Obama than the kitchen-sink attacks that preceded the gathering. Republicans posed — rhetorically — as Obama 2008 voters, lamenting his unfulfilled expectations as if they had been with him all along instead of trying to block him at every turn.

Both sides recognize the power of the disappointment theme: that the hope Obama offered for mending the economy, transforming the political process and even saving the earth has faded.

this appeal to disappointment, according to jonathan allen, was most prominently displayed in the soul-searching question romney asked about halfway thru his masterful and reaganite acceptance

a question, by the way, politico picked out as romney's second most rousing line of the evening: you know there's something wrong when the best you ever felt about the guy was the day you voted for him

ie, it's all downhill since

rubio put it---he's not a bad person, just a bad president

romney---he didn't fail cuz he wanted to but because he doesn't understand how business works

what's really freaking out chicago is the foreboding phenomenon best employed by the pat caddell 64:00 video production, "the hope and the change," which features 40 former obama voters, both dems and indies, all from swing states, looking you right in the camera and TESTIFYING to their slowly evolved view of him whom one of them calls this "con artist"

Yahoo! Video Detail for The Hope And The Change - Official Movie Trailer

he sold us, didn't get what i expected, lost all faith, party's over, smoke cleared, no solutions, broken promises, credit rating, taxes, gas, food, housing, wages, we all got fooled, it's not working, buyer's remorse, let me down, we're divided...

i just don't wanna hear it anymore

republican and romney insiders believe their focus groups show that this imagery---the in-person TESTIMONIALS of broken hearted obama voters---is their most powerfully influential, even decisive strategy

it's also the gist of jonathan allen

and the white house worries at the approach, while a shiver runs thru the friendly enemies in chicago

this hyping of disappointment, allen maintains, transforms the debate away from sideshows like todd akin and puts this heartbreaking economy front and center

"mission accomplished," concludes mika's giggle buddy

the party in tampa reaches out, not in, all the hi profile women and hispanics and blacks on display

and the personal power and pointedness of their particular messages

susana martinez, first hispanic female governor in the history of the united states of america, from new mexico: i was asst da for 3rd judicial district, i chose for my emphasis the prosecution of child abuse crime, i saw some gut wrenching things, but standing up for those children is the honor of a lifetime

martinez continues: i testified against my boss, he fired me---so i ran against him for da and beat him in a landslide

condi rice---a little girl denied a seat at the birmingham lunch counter who always knew, thru the teachings of her parents, that if she put her efforts to it she, as much as anyone else, could conceivably become president

jonathan allen---this appeal to the disappointed is a reachout to the moderate middle, the reagan dem, the white collar no college, the catholic

it's western pennsylvania and east and south ohio, it's wisconsin and michigan, it's jersey and the all determinative I4 corridor

it offers a positive alternative to hispanics in virginia, colorado, nevada, martinez' new mexico

romney's convention demonstrated discipline, allen observes, romney is "workmanlike"

in contrast, roger simon's top young professional leftist sees an obama campaign in pivot, turning to issues arising from akin, one with very little room for maneuver

that's all politico's opine, people

ie, no spin, lynn

seeya at the polls

enjoy your abortion palooza in charlotte

say hi to sandra fluke, give her some birth control pills for me
 
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The comments that go with your link are instructive, too. Thanks for posting.
 

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a red hot romney in jacksonville this afternoon: you can tell the ex obama voters, just look for the remnants of glue stuck on the backs of their cars from where the bumper stickers once were
 

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Question... how much is the Romney campaign paying these days for making posts on the internet?
That joke is on the news (but probably not MSNBC).
 

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candy questioned gibbs on cnn this morning about this theme which the professional leftists and journolisters at politico see as close to the heart of the campaign

Gibbs: "I Don't Think There's Voter Disappointment" With Obama | RealClearPolitics

more power to you, robert

maybe she should be tested

Robert Gibbs says leftwing critics of Obama 'ought to be drug tested' | Richard Adams | World news | guardian.co.uk

was there voter disappointment in the president the last time the national electorate expressed itself, mr gibbs?

most house seats since 1938, 6 senators, 10 gubs, the most state legislatures and assemblies in history?

what's changed?

todd akin?

enjoy your celebration of abortion in charlotte this week, chums

are you gonna let the occupiers speak?

will they sound the same or different from the folks the party puts on tv?

we know they'll look different

Biden: Obama is first "CLEAN" African American - YouTube
 

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msnbc print partner politico's top story this fine saturday morning:

Obama's new challenge: Disappointment - Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com

almost every day on msnbc's coffee joe either mr allen or his close associate jim vandehei makes an appearance

(these people are almost without exception so extremely young, it's a big part of their problem, politically they are very immature)




this appeal to disappointment, according to jonathan allen, was most prominently displayed in the soul-searching question romney asked about halfway thru his masterful and reaganite acceptance

a question, by the way, politico picked out as romney's second most rousing line of the evening: you know there's something wrong when the best you ever felt about the guy was the day you voted for him

ie, it's all downhill since

rubio put it---he's not a bad person, just a bad president

romney---he didn't fail cuz he wanted to but because he doesn't understand how business works

what's really freaking out chicago is the foreboding phenomenon best employed by the pat caddell 64:00 video production, "the hope and the change," which features 40 former obama voters, both dems and indies, all from swing states, looking you right in the camera and TESTIFYING to their slowly evolved view of him whom one of them calls this "con artist"

Yahoo! Video Detail for The Hope And The Change - Official Movie Trailer

he sold us, didn't get what i expected, lost all faith, party's over, smoke cleared, no solutions, broken promises, credit rating, taxes, gas, food, housing, wages, we all got fooled, it's not working, buyer's remorse, let me down, we're divided...

i just don't wanna hear it anymore

republican and romney insiders believe their focus groups show that this imagery---the in-person TESTIMONIALS of broken hearted obama voters---is their most powerfully influential, even decisive strategy

it's also the gist of jonathan allen

and the white house worries at the approach, while a shiver runs thru the friendly enemies in chicago

this hyping of disappointment, allen maintains, transforms the debate away from sideshows like todd akin and puts this heartbreaking economy front and center

"mission accomplished," concludes mika's giggle buddy

the party in tampa reaches out, not in, all the hi profile women and hispanics and blacks on display

and the personal power and pointedness of their particular messages

susana martinez, first hispanic female governor in the history of the united states of america, from new mexico: i was asst da for 3rd judicial district, i chose for my emphasis the prosecution of child abuse crime, i saw some gut wrenching things, but standing up for those children is the honor of a lifetime

martinez continues: i testified against my boss, he fired me---so i ran against him for da and beat him in a landslide

condi rice---a little girl denied a seat at the birmingham lunch counter who always knew, thru the teachings of her parents, that if she put her efforts to it she, as much as anyone else, could conceivably become president

jonathan allen---this appeal to the disappointed is a reachout to the moderate middle, the reagan dem, the white collar no college, the catholic

it's western pennsylvania and east and south ohio, it's wisconsin and michigan, it's jersey and the all determinative I4 corridor

it offers a positive alternative to hispanics in virginia, colorado, nevada, martinez' new mexico

romney's convention demonstrated discipline, allen observes, romney is "workmanlike"

in contrast, roger simon's top young professional leftist sees an obama campaign in pivot, turning to issues arising from akin, one with very little room for maneuver

that's all politico's opine, people

ie, no spin, lynn

seeya at the polls

enjoy your abortion palooza in charlotte

say hi to sandra fluke, give her some birth control pills for me
Disappointment of Obama is not endorsement of Romney.
 

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Question... how much is the Romney campaign paying these days for making posts on the internet?
Good one, but what a better question would be, is can Obama have a good comeback to this strategy?

I believe someone over there at GOP HQ must have stumbled onto some old playbooks, or perhaps took out the quija board and channeled Reagan. Rather than to demonize Obama as a man, criticize his job. A direct attack on the character insults and attacks those who voted for Obama 4 years ago. And it makes Romney look ugly and disconnected. Regan never demonized Carter as a bad guy, or a bad American hellbent on wrecking the country. He sold himself by comparing Carter to a good guy with bad ideas that no matter how well implemented, won't work.

Now this is a great strategy so long as Romney can back it up with a better plan and a new direction. Without it this playbook makes Romney look a little better, but doesn't go far enough to make enough people want to hire a new POTUS. So that will be phase 2 for Romney, and if they can pull that off it will likely start taking place after the Dem convention.
 

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It is an endorsement of "anyone else" which, this year, is Romney.
Right.

What we want is someone who will reduce welfare benefits when unemployment is steady at 8%.

What we want is someone to reduce regulations and restrictions on businesses when corporate profits are extremely high.

What we want is someone who will reduce Medicare but makes no promise to cut defense spending.

What we want is someone who will cut environmental regulations when the U.S. has lost billions of dollars in a drought.

What we want is someone who will be tougher on immigrants when the farm industry has lost billions in unpicked crops due to labor shortages.

What we want is someone who will cut taxes when we have trillions of dollars in debt to pay back.

What we want is to keep financial institutions unregulated when their own practices threatened the U.S. economy and they got bailouts for their troubles.

If we want anyone else than Obama, how about the other person be someone who will look out for the well being of the average American and not someone looking to do favors for his campaign contributors?
 

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Right.

What we want is someone who will reduce welfare benefits when unemployment is steady at 8%.
What we need is someone who will allow the economy to grow so that there will be more jobs available.

What we want is someone to reduce regulations and restrictions on businesses when corporate profits are extremely high.
What we need is someone who will allow the economy to grow so that there will be more jobs available.

What we want is someone who will reduce Medicare but makes no promise to cut defense spending.
What we need is someone who will allow the economy to grow so that there will be more jobs available to support Medicare.

What we want is someone who will cut environmental regulations when the U.S. has lost billions of dollars in a drought.
What we need is someone who will cut environmental regulations so that the corn can be used for food rather than to pollute the fuel.

What we want is someone who will be tougher on immigrants when the farm industry has lost billions in unpicked crops due to labor shortages.
What we need is a leader who can rationalize the immigrant and work-visa system.

What we want is someone who will cut taxes when we have trillions of dollars in debt to pay back.
What we need is someone who will allow the economy to grow so that there will be more tax money available to pay down the debt.

What we want is to keep financial institutions unregulated when their own practices threatened the U.S. economy and they got bailouts for their troubles.
What we need is someone to roll back the regulations that strangle business, and enforce the regulations that actually do protect the consumer.

If we want anyone else than Obama, how about the other person be someone who will look out for the well being of the average American and not someone looking to do favors for his campaign contributors?
Agreed. What we need is Anybody But Obama.
 

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What we want is someone who will reduce welfare benefits when unemployment is steady at 8%.
And why is it steady at over 8%, because of Obama, Romney will turn that around
What we want is someone to reduce regulations and restrictions on businesses when corporate profits are extremely high.
Corporate profits are only high because of cuts not growth. Huge difference, but one liberals can't understand. But the biggest factor is Romeny will get small businesses and large growing again.
What we want is someone who will reduce Medicare but makes no promise to cut defense spending.
Obama has already done that by gutting Medicare by 716 billion to fund Obamacare

What we want is someone who will cut environmental regulations when the U.S. has lost billions of dollars in a drought.
The EPA is the single most job destroyer in the country and you wonder why unemployment is over 8% for 42 straight months

What we want is someone who will be tougher on immigrants when the farm industry has lost billions in unpicked crops due to labor shortages.
Your talking about illegals that take good American jobs in construction, restaurants, ranches, cooks, commercial fisherman, truck drivers, hotel motel maids, nannies, landscapers, hell they are in every work industry in this country. Now tell me how many illegals are in this country taking good American jobs? And you wonder why unemployment is over 8% for over 42 months

What we want is someone who will cut taxes when we have trillions of dollars in debt to pay back.
Cut loopholes to gut taxes for everyone

What we want is to keep financial institutions unregulated when their own practices threatened the U.S. economy and they got bailouts for their troubles.
Dodd Frank is the most restrictive regulation in banking and you wonder why no loans are being made

If we want anyone else than Obama, how about the other person be someone who will look out for the well being of the average American and not someone looking to do favors for his campaign contributors?
By looking out for the average American is getting them back to work, and that Obama has completely failed at.
 

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The Prof said:
the soul-searching question romney asked about halfway thru his masterful and reaganite acceptance
I guess you were watching a different speech than the rest of the world.


Speech gets lowest ratings of any Gallup has measured since 1996

Last week's Republican National Convention had a minimal impact on Americans' self-reported voting intentions, with just about as many saying the convention made them less likely to vote for Mitt Romney as say it made them more likely to vote for him.​
 

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politico: "mission accomplished"

from the op:

Before the Tampa festivities began, Republicans were distancing themselves from Missouri Rep. Todd Akin’s remark about “legitimate rape” and defending a platform that doesn’t carve out abortion exceptions in cases of rape, incest or endangerment of the life of the mother.

By the time the balloons dropped Thursday night, they had refocused the national debate on the economy — one of the few issues, and an important one, on which Romney outpolls Obama.
yesterday:

Better off now? Don't ask Plouffe for an answer | Times 247

NationalJournal.com - Obama Team Punts Three Times on 'Better Off Now' Questions - Sunday, September 2, 2012

Democrats struggle to answer are Americans better off question

todd akin, anyone?
 

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mission accomplished?
you're really asking the wrong person, silly

"Jonathan Allen is POLITICO’s senior Washington correspondent and focuses his reporting on the nexus of politics and policy. He is a winner of the National Press Foundation’s Everett McKinley Dirksen Award for Distinguished Reporting of Congress and the National Press Club’s Sandy Hume Award for Excellence in Political Journalism. A graduate of the University of Maryland, Allen was born in Silver Spring, Md., and lives in Washington, D.C., with his wife and son. He frequently speaks to groups about politics and journalism, taught a course at Northwestern University in 2012 and appears as a guest analyst on national television and local radio programs."

Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com
 
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