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Inglorious Basterd said:
The protection was getting their asses out of there before they got killed. Christopher and his boyfriends were left behind. Deserted so America would not know the disaster of Clinton.
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So how many indictments did you get?
 
vegas giants said:
So how many indictments did you get?
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The only indictment I see is deserting your own people for political reasons and not giving a shat about it and lying and hiding the truth for an election.

The lowest of lows.......Pretty indicting huh?

You are now past your response allotment from me.
 
Inglorious Basterd said:
The only indictment I see is deserting your own people for political reasons and not giving a shat about it and lying and hiding the truth for an election.

The lowest of lows.......Pretty indicting huh?

You are now past your response allotment from me.
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No not even that


Not a single indictment in fact
 
vegas giants said:
No not even that


Not a single indictment in fact
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This shows how much corruption there is, that apparently you support.

More the reason to take care of business and clean out the real trash.
 
IQ57 said:
This shows how much corruption there is, that apparently you support.

More the reason to take care of business and clean out the real trash.
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Or.........nothing to indict
 
bongsaway said:
I'm asking you because you are for the investigations, or is this going to be another Durham thing? Three years later and, nothing.
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You're struggling with basic cause and effect. It does not matter whether I'm for it or against it, I'm not clairvoyant.
 
This is the ONLY platform that the Republicans have had for years. Sadly, we have millions of voters not smart enough to see it.
 
Michael Cole said:
The custody of the laptop. It's not hard to understand.

All the laptop's contents have not been verified, and it's been shown that files were added. Who added the files? The fact that they were added corrupts the evidence.
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What kills me about all this is even if the "evidence" in the laptop is all true, what do we have?

Joe might have "met" (i.e. shook hands at a dinner party) someone associated with Burisma. Hunter might have paid a few trivial bills for Joe, but even those appear to be related to the family house that Hunter owns an interest in because he reports the rental income on the property. At one point post-VP, it's possible Joe was mentioned as a possible beneficiary of a 10% interest in something, post VP, as a private citizen. That's what we've seen so far.

All the rest of the GOP report is just bullcrap, frankly. Yeah, Hunter got in bed in business with some crooks and others either stupid or incompetent. Yeah, he traded off Joe's name. But didn't we just get through the Trump era, and Jr. and Ivanka and Jared, with the latter two trading off daddy's name WHILE WH CABINET members, effectively, not to mention Trump's hilarious conflicts of interest no one batted an eye about for four years, at least in the GOP. Didn't Jared get a $billion plus from Qatar then months after Trump left $2 billion from MBS and the Saudis for his startup investment firm?
 
JasperL said:
We've seen the movie. We are seeing it now. A bunch of MAGAs and others repeating garbage as fact. The Durham probe is a perfect example, or the election claims. The failure to prove anything in court is just evidence of more corruption. You're buying it right now. You don't care about off the record meetings, but it's raised with regard to Joe and you've mentioned them 30 times, one meeting, that wasn't a meeting. This is what the puke machine does.
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Past investigations are irrelevant. This is a different set of circumstances, and Biden may have done something wrong, or he may not have. Again, let's find out.

JasperL said:
You've not even attempted to show a single statement I've made is irrational in any way. You've dismissed them without argument or by making claims you cannot back up.
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No, that's simply not true. There are multiple pieces of evidence that add up to suspicious behavior.

JasperL said:
Sure, and if we investigate you we can see if you've been paid by Trump to post here. I hereby allege that you're a paid poster, so let's have a full blown investigation into the matter, please send me your bank accounts.
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You can allege anything you like, but you first need at least some evidence consistent with your theory. We have that for Biden and a pay-for-access scheme, no matter how many times you claim that evidence does not exist.

JasperL said:
Oh, I see, it's not "literally" true! But if Hunter buys Joe dinner, that's a problem I guess.
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No, it would need to be a material amount of money, but I think you know that.

JasperL said:
Great, so let's use this same standard for Ginni Thomas. When are we going to have full blown investigations by Congress that Clarence is being bribed by the people paying Ginni because Clarence had "meetings" with right wingers at fund raisers, then issued rulings they favor? That's bribery by the same standard.
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Great, start a thread and discuss it. This one is about Joe Biden.

JasperL said:
And so far the access 'granted' Hunter's clients is Joe attended a dinner with a dozen people, and one of them thanked Hunter for the opportunity to "meet" (not 'meet with') Joe!!! SCANDAL!!! My goodness if that's all you need for a scandal in D.C. there's one every night! We better crank up the Congressional hearings!!!
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Yes, it's just that that one in particular was paying Hunter an obscene amount of money for a job he was manifestly unqualified to do. It was also a meeting that somehow, someway, wasn't on Biden's public calendar. And by the strangest of coincidences, Biden just happen to be the one involved in a prosecution case concerning that company.

Gosh, sure seems to be more than just one "drunken" message, doesn't it?


JasperL said:
Actually no you haven't. Any politician gives "access" to a few thousand people per year. What proves "bribery" is Joe, along with the entire foreign policy apparatus in the U.S., Sec. of State, Dept of State including the Ukraine ambassador, and Europe, the UN, World Bank and more all bending policy because Hunter Biden is on the board of a company NOT being investigated by Shokin, who they want fired.
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Nope, just takes Burisma money winding up in Joe's pocket.

JasperL said:
We're not at the start of any investigation. The laptop has been out there for a while. The Shokin stuff for 6 years now, including all 4 of the Trump years. Rudy and crew spent at least months over in Ukraine trying to prove that garbage, and came up with nothing. At what point does "no evidence" convince you?
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Has anyone testified under oath about it?

JasperL said:
I know - never. Lack of evidence is more evidence of the cover up - see the election claims.
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Never made that claim; those are your words, not mine.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Yet, for some reason, you advocate for the endorsement of their fiscal policies which have thus far accomplished two things: to lag behind Democrats in job creation, and cause more recessions.
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No, I've tried many times to offer the GOP fiscal advice, but they stopped taking my calls long ago. When in power, they now spend like Democrats.
 
JasperL said:
What kills me about all this is even if the "evidence" in the laptop is all true, what do we have?
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Agree with everything, but I'll stop here.

What we already have is a two year old Republican Senate investigation that found no wrongdoing by the president. What on earth do the House morons plan to do when this is mentioned?

The White House has been preparing for this for months. The GOP is in for a surprise.
JasperL said:
Joe might have "met" (i.e. shook hands at a dinner party) someone associated with Burisma. Hunter might have paid a few trivial bills for Joe, but even those appear to be related to the family house that Hunter owns an interest in because he reports the rental income on the property. At one point post-VP, it's possible Joe was mentioned as a possible beneficiary of a 10% interest in something, post VP, as a private citizen. That's what we've seen so far.

All the rest of the GOP report is just bullcrap, frankly. Yeah, Hunter got in bed in business with some crooks and others either stupid or incompetent. Yeah, he traded off Joe's name. But didn't we just get through the Trump era, and Jr. and Ivanka and Jared, with the latter two trading off daddy's name WHILE WH CABINET members, effectively, not to mention Trump's hilarious conflicts of interest no one batted an eye about for four years, at least in the GOP. Didn't Jared get a $billion plus from Qatar then months after Trump left $2 billion from MBS and the Saudis for his startup investment firm?
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ALiberalModerate said:
How would you do that without either big tax increases or huge cuts to entitlements?
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I wouldn't, and I'd choose the latter. Also, don't underestimate how much could be saved by a massive reduction in the number of Federal employees; it's more than just the salaries; it's the pensions, too.

The other part of the solution is economic growth. If you look at the history of Treasury receipts you'll find the spikes don't come from tax hikes. The come from periods of high economic growth.
 
JasperL said:
You should know because you've been told all about the "meeting", several times. Read about it here. It was a dinner, with 12-14 people, Joe stopped in to say hi, shook some hands, talked mainly with the head of the Greek Orthodox church, who he had known for a long time, and we can guess shook hands with the Burisma guy. The email in fact thanked Hunter for the opportunity to "meet" Joe, which is in fact different than "meeting with" Joe. That's the "meeting" in a nutshell.

At a typical fundraiser, the politician might, by your standards, "meet with" hundreds of people in one evening!! It's amazing how many "meetings" a person can jam into a short 1-2 hour fundraiser handshake line, complete with pictures for the big donors they can hang on the wall!!

You know this, but keep misrepresenting what happened because that is what you do.
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If it was a "typical fundraiser," why wasn't the meeting on his public calendar? What was discussed there? Did any of Burisma's money find its way to Joe in return for that opportunity?

I don't know what happened at that meeting. But here's the thing, you don't know either. For you to assert it was innocent when you clearly don't know is just you defending the wall.
 
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