Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?[W:314]

[Absentglare]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

I strongly disagree. And only somebody blind to the truth is unable to see it for what it is. Again, I'm pretty sure you haven't even watched the video.

You were the one complaining about "editing" and "out of context"- President-Elect Trump's ENTIRE speech speaks for itself. Apparently, the irony of making up new context and inserting the comment in that context in order to back your desired "narrative" while attacking the unedited speech is lost on you.

 

[Sietske22]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

The claim here is that trump's movements and actions used to mock the disabled reporter are identical to movements and actions he used to mock other folks who are not disabled.

This is of course false, as the actions used to mimic the disabled reporter are quite different, detailed and animated.

The other claim is that trump never met the reporter and had no idea he has a disability.

This is also false, as the reporter interviewed trump in his office and asked him questions at press conferences.

Donald Trump Criticized for Mocking Disabled Reporter : snopes.com

 

[OpportunityCost]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

One cannot but notice that you pretend to discuss the issue until it gets the better of you and your position has been shredded and then you go back to this silly sour grapes nonsense.

You have shown your tactics and they are lame.

Repeated Appeals to the Stone are not a tactic, sir, they are a lack of one. You don't destroy someone's position you declare it destroyed with no evidence beyond your own opinion, which is not debate, its a lack of it.

This is where you and I differ. The videos in question show that Trump did similar gestures towards two other people that he did towards the reporter with the disability. It is my opinion he did not mock the disability. It is your opinion he did. Because we both have our opinions we will not agree, but I don't need to prove I'm right or wrong and I do not insist I am right or wrong.

You, have an urgent need to be right. But this issue one of judgment and that will vary. So I can accept differing opinions on this issue, you do not.

 

[haymarket]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Repeated Appeals to the Stone are not a tactic, sir, they are a lack of one. You don't destroy someone's position you declare it destroyed with no evidence beyond your own opinion, which is not debate, its a lack of it.

The evidence was provided by the person of Donal Trump himself when he mocked that disabled reporter and the nation recoiled in disgust.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

The evidence was provided by the person of Donal Trump himself when he mocked that disabled reporter and the nation recoiled in disgust.

Right another appeal to the stone. Have you not considered that people can differ with you and you don't need to dictate to them what they must think? Get over your incessant need to be right and agree to disagree and move on. You look arrogant and nasty in your repeated arguments about this and that is part of why your side lost, because you feel you must dictate what other people should think.

 

[Sietske22]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

donald trump has a nasty habit of lying.

He lied about seeing thousands of Muslims in Jersey City celebrate the falling towers.

He lied about never meeting Vladimir Putin.

He lied about releasing his income taxes.

And now he is lying about never seeing this reporter.

 

[Crosscheck]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Says the person still stupidly insisting Trump was making fun of a disability.

Seems like Trump as an excuse for everything. It is either locker room talk or it was somebody else I was making fun of.

But if it is true as many are talking about in that his youngest son is autistic and for him to make fun of someone else having an affliction then he is one piece rotten piece of cow droppings.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

He mocked a disabled person. It's on camera and the context is completely clear and there is no other way to interpret that fact that would have anything to do with reality. What level of mental gymnastics do you have to achieve to deny that?

He mocked a reporter who happened to be disabled.

He did not mock him on the basis of that disablility.

He in fact treated said reporter exactly how he treats others in that same context, with the same tone and same gesticulations. That is the absence of discrimination, not an example of it.

 

[Sietske22]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

He mocked a reporter who happened to be disabled.

He did not mock him on the basis of that disablility.

He in fact treated said reporter exactly how he treats others in that same context, with the same tone and same gesticulations. That is the absence of discrimination, not an example of it.

False.

trump knew he was disabled and mocked his disability.

 

[trouble13]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Trump mocked the reporter for his disability. Deal with it.

What if he did (which is debatable)?

I could care less if he mocked someone who is part of an organazation that has been and continues to be openly hostile toward him. The media has no qualms about mocking his physical features among other things. The left wing media has a long history of being disrespectful toward people they dony like and i really have no sympathy for them when they get a taste of their own medicine.



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[AlbqOwl]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

You were the one complaining about "editing" and "out of context"- President-Elect Trump's ENTIRE speech speaks for itself. Apparently, the irony of making up new context and inserting the comment in that context in order to back your desired "narrative" while attacking the unedited speech is lost on you.

I listened to the entire speech when he gave it. I'm pretty sure you didn't listen to the video in the OP though.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

The evidence was provided by the person of Donal Trump himself when he mocked that disabled reporter and the nation recoiled in disgust.

Yes, he mocked a disabled reporter. Just like he's mocked other people in the past that were not disabled. In fact, it was done in pretty much the same way as he's mocked those other people. To claim that he mocked that reporter because of his disability rather than mocking the reporter for other reasons however has been proven false. Just because the hand gestures were not EXACTLY the same as the other times that he's mocked people doesn't mean squat. I will admit that the initial reactions by people were understandable. However once the evidence came out that he's mocked people that were not disabled in pretty much the same way before it should have been let go. The fact that people are STILL hollering about it however, despite the evidence (many trying to dismiss the evidence), shows nothing more than partisan hackery.

 

[Sietske22]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Yes, he mocked a disabled reporter. Just like he's mocked other people in the past that were not disabled. In fact, it was done in pretty much the same way as he's mocked those other people. To claim that he mocked that reporter because of his disability rather than mocking the reporter for other reasons however has been proven false. Just because the hand gestures were not EXACTLY the same as the other times that he's mocked people doesn't mean squat. I will admit that the initial reactions by people were understandable. However once the evidence came out that he's mocked people that were not disabled in pretty much the same way before it should have been let go. The fact that people are STILL hollering about it however, despite the evidence (many trying to dismiss the evidence), shows nothing more than partisan hackery.

His mocking of the disabled guy was much more extreme, and was clearly meant to mimic his movements and hand positions.

We all see that. Even you.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

False.

trump knew he was disabled and mocked his disability.

You're lying and you know you're lying.

 

[Sietske22]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

You're lying and you know you're lying.

You are the third Conservative to accuse me of lying, simply because you disagree with my comment.

Please tell me you guys have a more sophisticated rebutal than "you're lying!!!!".

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

You are the third Conservative to accuse me of lying, simply because you disagree with my comment.

How boring.

It isn't an accusation.

You are objectively making statements which include factual claims; these claims are false and do not align with reality. You know they are false and do not align with reality.

There is a word for this - you are lying.

 

[Helix]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

You are the third Conservative to accuse me of lying, simply because you disagree with my comment.

Please tell me you guys have a more sophisticated rebutal than "you're lying!!!!".

don't waste your weekend.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

His mocking of the disabled guy was much more extreme, and was clearly meant to mimic his movements and hand positions.

We all see that. Even you.

Umm....yeah...NOT! Kovalesk's disability is called "Arthrogryposis" which is a disorder that does not have the type of movements that Trump exhibited which means there was no mimicking. In fact Arthrogryposis is a contraction of the muscles. Which means that the affected areas are hard to move (Those affected have to force movement). They do not move on their own. It is not like Cerebral Palsy or Parkinson's Disease.

 

[Sietske22]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

It isn't an accusation.

You are objectively making statements which include factual claims; these claims are false and do not align with reality. You know they are false and do not align with reality.

There is a word for this - you are lying.

It is my belief that trump knew exactly what he was doing and intentionally mocked the disability of this reporter.

You call that a lie? Well sir, that is just pathetic. Come back with a more intelligent and sophisticated rebuttal.

 

[ocean515]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

False.

trump knew he was disabled and mocked his disability.

Interesting.

So you claim to be in a position to know exactly what was on President Elect Trumps mind.

Please provide evidence that will irrefutably prove you were in a position to know exactly what President Elect Trump was thinking at the moment he made the gestures.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

It is my belief that trump knew exactly what he was doing and intentionally mocked the disability of this reporter.

You call that a lie? Well sir, that is just pathetic. Come back with a more intelligent and sophisticated rebuttal.

Considering the evidence of both the video and the fact that the reporter in question does not have a disability that even lets the reporter move in the way that is claimed, AND considering that that evidence has been out for quite awhile now, I do not blame people in the slightest for believing your statements are lies. :shrug:

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

It is my belief that trump knew exactly what he was doing and intentionally mocked the disability of this reporter.

You call that a lie? Well sir, that is just pathetic. Come back with a more intelligent and sophisticated rebuttal.

Well lie or insane delusion.

You pick.

Your "belief" is about the same as having a belief that gravity isn't real.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Trump mocked a disabled man. That should have ended his political career right there. The fact that it didn't doesn't speak well of his supporters, whatever their postfactual rationalisation.

 

[Sietske22]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Interesting.

So you claim to be in a position to know exactly what was on President Elect Trumps mind.

Please provide evidence that will irrefutably prove you were in a position to know exactly what President Elect Trump was thinking at the moment he made the gestures.

So you're saying when trump said you should "grab women by the *****", he meant to pick up their cat?

 

[Orly?]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

I listened to the entire speech when he gave it. I'm pretty sure you didn't listen to the video in the OP though.

I saw it live long before anyone complained about it.. There was no essence to immorality there..