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Actually, the evidence does not say otherwise. Case in point? You have not been able to show that it does.
Wrong on all counts
Actually, the evidence does not say otherwise. Case in point? You have not been able to show that it does.
We received no peace gestures from Japan through the Soviets.
Further, Japan hoped for a lot more than that one concession when they went to the Soviets.
And we gave Japan and the emperor exactly zero concessions.
Japan made a surrender offer only after both A-bombs had already been dropped.
And no. They did not get the concession that they were asking for.
When we refuse to give a concession under any circumstance, that means the concession is denied.
They sued for peace only after both A-bombs had already been dropped.
Here is what the evidence says:
Date of Hiroshima: August 6
Date of Nagasaki: August 9
Date of Japan's offer to surrender with a single concession (their first offer to surrender in any form): August 10
It is a question of priorities, I should say and of the circumstances into which the decision is embedded. At the time it seemed very important to let the Japanese understand that the war was over and there was a second reason of equal or even greater importance. Do you know it?
As circumstances are now, it would be counterproductive.
Wrong on all counts
There was no reason to use the bombs. The war was over
Everyone is a military genius.....guess what the military geniuses said about using the bomb then?
I see a lot of claims and no evidence as usual.
Your mistaken opinion is noted.
Japanese forces were still engaged in Kamikaze strikes until 15 August and a state of war still existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire.
That it was the most efficient weapon.
At least that is what LeMay said.
There was no reason to use the bombs. The war was over
Everyone is a military genius.....guess what the military geniuses said about using the bomb then?
It wasn't, if you were an infantry soldier on a boat routed for the enemy beaches.
Actually, I have read quite a few differing contemporary and later opinions by military and political professionals. To which of these do you refer?
They were beaten, defeated and crushed. There was no need for the bomb
Your OPINION is noted. And filed appropriately in the nearest virtual wastebasket.
And yet we have infantry soldiers dying in Afghanistan....it seems they don't matter as much
I didn't think you had ever thought about the topic very seriously.
I don't know of any other way to kill those 20,000 soldiers other than the A-bomb. Except maybe ground combat in an invasion.If that is true, then the motivation was largely political and the military aspect may have been achieved through other means rather than targeting a population center like Hiroshima.
I don't know of any other way to kill those 20,000 soldiers other than the A-bomb. Except maybe ground combat in an invasion.
The motivation was to push Japan towards surrender, the same motivation behind all of our attacks against them. Is that political?
And your lack of evidence is also noted. LOL
I just posted my evidence again...you have nothingWhat "Lack of evidence"?
It is you that is ignoring the facts.
Falsely accusing people of being a sociopath is a pretty silly way to excuse your inability to respond.You can keep wasting your time writing me all you want, but I stopped reading your posts after you made the ridiculous claim that we should've nuked all of Afghanistan before the second tower fell on 9/11 by a group of Saudis. Sociopaths to that degree can not be reasoned with or think rationally.
I refer to these. Please give me the quotes of military generals FOR the bomb.
MILITARY VIEWS About Dropping the Atomic Bomb
I just posted my evidence again...you have nothing