Diabetic teen kicked out of Delsea Drive-In for candy contraband

[radcen]

Some Facebook friends of mine are debating this, and it's turning into quite the interesting debate. Some feel the owner is being unreasonable, and some are defending the owner. What do you think?

Diabetic teen kicked out of Delsea Drive-In for candy contraband

http://6abc.com/news/diabetic-teen-kicked-out-of-theater-for-candy-contraband/263979/

 

[joG]

Some Facebook friends of mine are debating this, and it's turning into quite the interesting debate. Some feel the owner is being unreasonable, and some are defending the owner. What do you think?

I think I would have been able to negotiate a deal by buying a box of candy and a bottle of something gooey sweet to drink. Don't have to consume it after all.

 

[herenow1]

All about the money and no compassion, for case by case basis. So if all his revenue comes from the food he sells, why doesn't he have a one drink/candy minimum??? It would be no different than someone going but not buying snacks! Ogre!!

 

[ocean515]

Some Facebook friends of mine are debating this, and it's turning into quite the interesting debate. Some feel the owner is being unreasonable, and some are defending the owner. What do you think?

An interesting debate I'm sure.

The owner has rules, it's the patrons duty to abide by them or don't attend.

Rather cheezy of the kids parents to try and harm the mans business because they don't want to follow the rules. Awesome lesson in that.

 

[MaggieD]

Some Facebook friends of mine are debating this, and it's turning into quite the interesting debate. Some feel the owner is being unreasonable, and some are defending the owner. What do you think?

Here's the operative information as far as I'm concerned:

Deleonardis tells us revenue from the concession stand is what keeps the place open and that several diabetic and celiac-friendly foods are available for sale.

I'd tell the parents to get a freakin' life. Apparently rules aren't for them. I say they are. What did he bring in? Not "diabetic candy" -- but candy. That's available at the concession stand. A juice box? That's for the sugar hit. Available in many acceptable forms at the concession stand.

It's the owner's drive-in. He sets the rules. What is wrong??? with people today? When the owner starts telling people they can't bring in insulin, I'll agree they have a point. Otherwise? Just baloney.

 

[_Sal]

Some Facebook friends of mine are debating this, and it's turning into quite the interesting debate. Some feel the owner is being unreasonable, and some are defending the owner. What do you think?

the candy and drink box were in a container with his insulin so how did anyone know what he had with him?

other than that, I feel sorry for the kid, his parents apparently have no sense of letting something small go in order to acquire the bigger win...that is a valuable lesson for kids to learn: "pick your battles"

I think the parents handled it poorly

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Some Facebook friends of mine are debating this, and it's turning into quite the interesting debate. Some feel the owner is being unreasonable, and some are defending the owner. What do you think?

How dumb and incompetent does one have to be to get caught with a bag of candy and a juice box at a movie theater? I regularly sneak in beers and entire meals. The movie theater without a doubt offered candy if they wanted to go the legal route.

Even worse, it's a drive in, the easiest place in the world to sneak things into. Was his car searched and looted by the drive-in owner?

 

[ludin]

Parents are totally out of line. they don't get to dicate the rules of theatre.

drive ins are rare and usually charge little admission fee's. it is the concession where they do make a lot of the money at.
the fact that he provides services for people with diabieties

yes he might have a medical condition so the insulin and the epee pen are for.
if he needs candy or a juice box that is why they can go to the concession stand.

i guess that drive in use to charge a 7 dollar fee if you brought food in, but they discontinued that.

I am sick of this i have some issue so i get special treatment. no you don't, but that is the society we have turned into it.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I think I would have been able to negotiate a deal by buying a box of candy and a bottle of something gooey sweet to drink. Don't have to consume it after all.

Did you read the whole article?

Deleonardis tells us revenue from the concession stand is what keeps the place open and that several diabetic and celiac-friendly foods are available for sale.

I agree. You let one kid bring his own candy, you have to let all.

 

[radcen]

Here's the operative information as far as I'm concerned:



I'd tell the parents to get a freakin' life. Apparently rules aren't for them. I say they are. What did he bring in? Not "diabetic candy" -- but candy. That's available at the concession stand. A juice box? That's for the sugar hit. Available in many acceptable forms at the concession stand.

It's the owner's drive-in. He sets the rules. What is wrong??? with people today? When the owner starts telling people they can't bring in insulin, I'll agree they have a point. Otherwise? Just baloney.

Hey Maggie, you've been keeping a low profile lately. I was just thinking recently that you haven't been posting as much. Good to see ya!

Anyway, I pretty much agree with this point-of-view. Some points of mine...

• The concession stand does sell candies and such. Equal access.
• If he doesn't want to be price gouged at the concession stand, they do make special sugar tablets specifically for diabetics that are not candy, but work just the same. Plus, they're cheaper than what candy at the concession stand would have charged. These tablets would be able to be accepted as a medical treatment, IMO, rather than a food or treat. They are also available over-the-counter, so no prescription needed.
• In this case, the doctor/owner is correct. If he allowed the exception then everybody would want one and would try to make up excuses. Sorry, but that's how too many people act. It's a reasonable fear on his part.

One person on Facebook said that diabetes is a disability and that it is illegal to refuse reasonable accommodation, and the candies were "necessary" for him whereas they are not necessary for an average person, and charging high prices is not reasonable, blah blah blah. Oy vey! :roll:

 

[ludin]

Hey Maggie, you've been keeping a low profile lately. I was just thinking recently that you haven't been posting as much. Good to see ya!

Anyway, I pretty much agree with this point-of-view. Some points of mine...

• The concession stand does sell candies and such. Equal access.
• If he doesn't want to be price gouged at the concession stand, they do make special sugar tablets specifically for diabetics that are not candy, but work just the same. Plus, they're cheaper than what candy at the concession stand would have charged. These tablets would be able to be accepted as a medical treatment, IMO, rather than a food or treat. They are also available over-the-counter, so no prescription needed.
• In this case, the doctor/owner is correct. If he allowed the exception then everybody would want one and would try to make up excuses. Sorry, but that's how too many people act. It's a reasonable fear on his part.

One person on Facebook said that diabetes is a disability and that it is illegal to refuse reasonable accommodation, and the candies were "necessary" for him whereas they are not necessary for an average person, and charging high prices is not reasonable, blah blah blah. Oy vey! :roll:

diabetes is a disease not a disability of course this is facebook and well people are idiots.
they didn't restrict his epee or his insulin so that is not illegal.

since they sell diabetic candy and ceilac candy at the counter then he would have been absolutely fine.

the owner did nothing wrong, but feigned outrage is the argument now adays.

 

[MaggieD]

Hey Maggie, you've been keeping a low profile lately. I was just thinking recently that you haven't been posting as much. Good to see ya!

Anyway, I pretty much agree with this point-of-view. Some points of mine...

• The concession stand does sell candies and such. Equal access.
• If he doesn't want to be price gouged at the concession stand, they do make special sugar tablets specifically for diabetics that are not candy, but work just the same. Plus, they're cheaper than what candy at the concession stand would have charged. These tablets would be able to be accepted as a medical treatment, IMO, rather than a food or treat. They are also available over-the-counter, so no prescription needed.
• In this case, the doctor/owner is correct. If he allowed the exception then everybody would want one and would try to make up excuses. Sorry, but that's how too many people act. It's a reasonable fear on his part.

One person on Facebook said that diabetes is a disability and that it is illegal to refuse reasonable accommodation, and the candies were "necessary" for him whereas they are not necessary for an average person, and charging high prices is not reasonable, blah blah blah. Oy vey! :roll:

Diabetes is not protected under the Americans With Disabilities Act; nor any of the civil rights acts.

The ADA protects qualified individuals with disabilities. An individual with a disability is a person who has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits major life activities; has a record of such an impairment; or is regarded as having such an impairment.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Maybe the owner should have allowed the exception for the mentally challenged woman...

/sarcasm

 

[sangha]

Here's the operative information as far as I'm concerned:



I'd tell the parents to get a freakin' life. Apparently rules aren't for them. I say they are. What did he bring in? Not "diabetic candy" -- but candy. That's available at the concession stand. A juice box? That's for the sugar hit. Available in many acceptable forms at the concession stand.

It's the owner's drive-in. He sets the rules. What is wrong??? with people today? When the owner starts telling people they can't bring in insulin, I'll agree they have a point. Otherwise? Just baloney.

I agree. The parents should have inquired about what was available at the concession stand.

 

[DiAnna]

I feel sorry for the kid. His parents are attention whores; there's no reason any drive-in staff member would know there was a small amount of candy and a juice box in a small container under the seat or in the trunk of the car unless the parents told them in order to take a "stand."

 

[Serenity]

This is just ridiculous.

The fact this kid had an epi pen (and based on his parents statement) tells me that coupled with his diabetes he ALSO has numerous food allergies.

If your child is diabetic and suffers a hypo (low blood sugar (hypoglycemia), which is the most common and one of the most dangerous conditions for many people with type 1 diabetes, then your child needs access to fast acting treatment immediately. You don't have time to mosey on down to the drive-in store, have a look around and search through all things there to also make sure they read the labels of all of the ingredients to make sure they are not buying something that is going to compromise him/her further.

 

[Lord of Planar]

This is just ridiculous.

The fact this kid had an epi pen (and based on his parents statement) tells me that coupled with his diabetes he ALSO has numerous food allergies.

If your child is diabetic and suffers a hypo (low blood sugar (hypoglycemia), which is the most common and one of the most dangerous conditions for many people with type 1 diabetes, then your child needs access to fast acting treatment immediately. You don't have time to mosey on down to the drive-in store, have a look around and search through all things there to also make sure they read the labels of all of the ingredients to make sure they are not buying something that is going to compromise him/her further.

Just how far do you expect a for profit business to accommodate people?

They already went as far as making it available at their concession stand. Granted, it will be relatively expensive, but so what. Where is it really fair to draw the line at? If the business grants one verbal request for exception, then many more will expect the same. A movie ticket is already $10 +/- a little. Whats another few dollars for buying at the concessions stand?

Owners have the right to set the rules on their property as they see fit. If you don't like his rules, then go to his competition.

Let freedom ring!

 

[Serenity]

Just how far do you expect a for profit business to accommodate people?

They already went as far as making it available at their concession stand. Granted, it will be relatively expensive, but so what. Where is it really fair to draw the line at? If the business grants one verbal request for exception, then many more will expect the same. A movie ticket is already $10 +/- a little. Whats another few dollars for buying at the concessions stand?

Owners have the right to set the rules on their property as they see fit. If you don't like his rules, then go to his competition.

Let freedom ring!

A parent is acting responsibily by ensuring that their child carries a response kit at all times and that it contains items that are safe for them to use. Hypos can kick in at anytime, what if he/she has one on the way to the drive-in...oops?

It is beyond ridiculous to suggest that in this instance the parents would need to double up and buy a second "kit", just in case.....

Let common sense prevail!

 

[Lord of Planar]

A parent is acting responsibily by ensuring that their child carries a response kit at all times and that it contains items that are safe for them to use. Hypos can kick in at anytime, what if he/she has one on the way to the drive-in...oops?

It is beyond ridiculous to suggest that in this instance the parents would need to double up and buy a second "kit", just in case.....

Let common sense prevail!

I agree the parents are being responsible. That isn't the issue in my mind.

Now I don't know about drive ins, but in my state, it is ILLEGAL to bring in your own food to a place that serves food.

Owners also have a right as to what they allow and disallow into their establishment.

Morally right or wrong is not always synonymous with legally right or wrong.

At the end of the day, as long as the owner follows the law, he makes the choice as to what to allow in his establishment.

What gives special privilege for one person's rights to superseded another person's rights?

Please explain that to us...

 

[ludin]

This is just ridiculous.

The fact this kid had an epi pen (and based on his parents statement) tells me that coupled with his diabetes he ALSO has numerous food allergies.

If your child is diabetic and suffers a hypo (low blood sugar (hypoglycemia), which is the most common and one of the most dangerous conditions for many people with type 1 diabetes, then your child needs access to fast acting treatment immediately. You don't have time to mosey on down to the drive-in store, have a look around and search through all things there to also make sure they read the labels of all of the ingredients to make sure they are not buying something that is going to compromise him/her further.

The guy that owns the place is a pediatrician. he has all the things required at the counter for people with this problem.
he has both diabetic and ceilac candy available, and it isn't just mosey on down. they could have gotten there earlier or made it their first stop after entering the drive in.



the owner is correct the parents are wrong.

the problem is they didn't want to pay for it.

 

[Lord of Planar]

the owner is correct the parents are wrong.

the problem is they didn't want to pay for it.

I am in agreement with this assessment.

 

[ludin]

A parent is acting responsibily by ensuring that their child carries a response kit at all times and that it contains items that are safe for them to use. Hypos can kick in at anytime, what if he/she has one on the way to the drive-in...oops?

It is beyond ridiculous to suggest that in this instance the parents would need to double up and buy a second "kit", just in case.....

Let common sense prevail!

the insulin and the eppe wasn't what got them in trouble. the drive in does not allow outside food or drinks. they tried to bring those items into the drive in.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

16-year-old Ben Weidner of West Deptford has Type 1 diabetes and carries with him everywhere a backpack containing insulin, an EpiPen, a juice box and candy to eat in case his blood sugar drops suddenly.​

I don't have that severe a case of diabetes (mine is type 2), but it is my understanding that this is pretty much standard for someone who does. Aside from insulin in case one's blood sugar level goes too high, there is also a need to carry some quickly-absorbable form of sugar to take in case one's blood sugar goes too low. There are special sugar tablets meant specifically for diabetics. I carry a couple of tubes of these around myself, just in case. But some diabetics find that there are other forms that work better for them, with certain kinds of candy and fruit juices being very near the top.



If this kid should go into hypoglycemic shock, should be be expected to go to the concession stand and buy some grossly-overpriced candy to relieve it? What if, after paying admission into the theater, he doesn't have enough money left to buy the candy at the theater's exaggerated prices?

The sense that I get, from reading the article, is that this kit which this kid carries with him is something that he needs in order to protect his health; and that it is completely unreasonable for anyone, for any reason, to deny him the ability to carry it with him at all times.

They already went as far as making it available at their concession stand. Granted, it will be relatively expensive, but so what. Where is it really fair to draw the line at?

What if they had insulin available at the concession stand, at three or four times the price that it costs elsewhere, and told diabetics that they could not bring in their own insulin, because if they need it, they can buy it at the concession stand?

 

[radcen]

16-year-old Ben Weidner of West Deptford has Type 1 diabetes and carries with him everywhere a backpack containing insulin, an EpiPen, a juice box and candy to eat in case his blood sugar drops suddenly.​

I don't have that severe a case of diabetes (mine is type 2), but it is my understanding that this is pretty much standard for someone who does. Aside from insulin in case one's blood sugar level goes too high, there is also a need to carry some quickly-absorbable form of sugar to take in case one's blood sugar goes too low. There are special sugar tablets meant specifically for diabetics. I carry a couple of tubes of these around myself, just in case. But some diabetics find that there are other forms that work better for them, with certain kinds of candy and fruit juices being very near the top.

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If this kid should go into hypoglycemic shock, should be be expected to go to the concession stand and buy some grossly-overpriced candy to relieve it? What if, after paying admission into the theater, he doesn't have enough money left to buy the candy at the theater's exaggerated prices?

The sense that I get, from reading the article, is that this kit which this kid carries with him is something that he needs in order to protect his health; and that it is completely unreasonable for anyone, for any reason, to deny him the ability to carry it with him at all times.

What if they had insulin available at the concession stand, at three or four times the price that it costs elsewhere, and told diabetics that they could not bring in their own insulin, because if they need it, they can buy it at the concession stand?

Why can't he carry these instead of commercial candy? They're inexpensive. I have some myself.

 

[Lord of Planar]

What if they had insulin available at the concession stand, at three or four times the price that it costs elsewhere, and told diabetics that they could not bring in their own insulin, because if they need it, they can buy it at the concession stand?

Does that apple taste like an orange to you?

It is illegal in my state to bring in food to a place that sells food. It is not illegal to bring prescription drugs.