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DHS inspector general tells Secret Service to stop investigating potentially missing texts

mrjurrs said:
I'm not sure that they are referring to the SS issues. It has become clear that the DoJ is running criminal investigations re 1.6, and the SS issue may be intruding on other investigations. If that's the case, DoJ will be speaking to specific SS agents about specific questions. Their investigation into the criminality of the SS actions would follow that imo.
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I think we are all a bit fearful that a segment of the SS may be Trump devotees and not country first as is traditional.
 
noonereal said:
I think we are all a bit fearful that a segment of the SS may be Trump devotees and not country first as is traditional.
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I think fearful is an inadequate description. djt's corruption touched the SS. It's just a question of how deep. Imo, all SS officers that were on djt's protective detail need to be reassigned to looking for counterfeit money somewhere outside of DC.
 
mrjurrs said:
I think fearful is an inadequate description. djt's corruption touched the SS. It's just a question of how deep. Imo, all SS officers that were on djt's protective detail need to be reassigned to looking for counterfeit money somewhere outside of DC.
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VP Pence would not get in the car. He knew or just feared something.
 
noonereal said:
I think we are all a bit fearful that a segment of the SS may be Trump devotees and not country first as is traditional.
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mrjurrs said:
I think fearful is an inadequate description. djt's corruption touched the SS. It's just a question of how deep. Imo, all SS officers that were on djt's protective detail need to be reassigned to looking for counterfeit money somewhere outside of DC.
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I suspect this may be a difficult, even a gray area, in the lives of SS agents. Among their most important mandates is protection of the POTUS - protection from threats, protection from enemies, protection from the public and, of no less importance, protection from themselves. For all we know, over the course of 4 years in office, there might have been dozens of times when their text exchanges were deleted to cover the tracks of Trump's stupid outbursts or indiscretions, most of them being totally insignificant. We are, after all, talking about Donald Trump.

So something as simple as dumping text messages might have already become de rigueur for those agents. Something they'd come to do, not as a matter of blind loyalty to protect him, but merely as a matter of course, to protect themselves from having a record of what they've probably been told they should not be doing anyway. Not covering up for Trump, so much as covering up their own bad habit, if you will.

Who knows? Perhaps the 6th Committee will expose not merely the contents, but the motives as well.
 
Has anyone asked Area 51 if they have the texts? I hear the Lizard People keep all of those records.
 
MamboDervish said:
I suspect this may be a difficult, even a gray area, in the lives of SS agents. Among their most important mandates is protection of the POTUS - protection from threats, protection from enemies, protection from the public and, of no less importance, protection from themselves. For all we know, over the course of 4 years in office, there might have been dozens of times when their text exchanges were deleted to cover the tracks of Trump's stupid outbursts or indiscretions, most of them being totally insignificant. We are, after all, talking about Donald Trump.

So something as simple as dumping text messages might have already become de rigueur for those agents. Something they'd come to do, not as a matter of blind loyalty to protect him, but merely as a matter of course, to protect themselves from having a record of what they've probably been told they should not be doing anyway. Not covering up for Trump, so much as covering up their own bad habit, if you will.

Who knows? Perhaps the 6th Committee will expose not merely the contents, but the motives as well.
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Something as simple as dumping text messages is a crime. This would also apply to flushing documents down the toilet.
"Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

www.law.cornell.edu www.law.cornell.edu
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Secret Service has now helped turn "Uvalde" into the universal term for "attempted coverup" because they appear to be doing exactly what police are doing down there.

**** Uvalde's law enforcement and **** the Secret Service.
Biden would be safer in the hands of The original Black Panthers (no NOT the "New Black Panther Party" --- the ORIGINAL guys)
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And you just scared the majority of the white population that has zero idea what you are talking about. Americans believe in gun control, when black people are armed.

"Throughout the late 1960s, the militant black nationalist group used their understanding of the finer details of California’s gun laws to underscore their political statements about the subjugation of African-Americans. In 1967, 30 members of the Black Panthers protested on the steps of the California statehouse armed with .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns and .45-caliber pistols and announced, “The time has come for black people to arm themselves.”

The display so frightened politicians—including California governor Ronald Reagan—that it helped to pass the Mulford Act, a state bill prohibiting the open carry of loaded firearms, along with an addendum prohibiting loaded firearms in the state Capitol. The 1967 bill took California down the path to having some of the strictest gun laws in America and helped jumpstart a surge of national gun control restrictions.

“The law was part of a wave of laws that were passed in the late 1960s regulating guns, especially to target African-Americans,” says Adam Winkler, author of Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms. “Including the Gun Control Act of 1968, which adopted new laws prohibiting certain people from owning guns, providing for beefed up licensing and inspections of gun dealers and restricting the importation of cheap Saturday night specials [pocket pistols] that were popular in some urban communities.”


In 1968, the NRA supported the passage of this law.


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mrjurrs said:
Something as simple as dumping text messages is a crime. This would also apply to flushing documents down the toilet.
"Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

www.law.cornell.edu www.law.cornell.edu
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The link you posted doesn't apply.
 
My guess is somebody is going to do some hard time.
 
jmotivator said:
Has anyone asked Area 51 if they have the texts? I hear the Lizard People keep all of those records.
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In 1949 it was prudent to investigate area 51. We did and it was a nothing burger.

Let's hope we can say the same about this after a prudent investigation.

That champion consultation with lizard people of folklore birth is concerning.
 
year2late said:
I didnt say they were police. I was giving an example that internal investigation may yield altered or biased results.
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Analogies are lost on Mycroft. Then again, he's still stumped because he hasn't been able to locate Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate yet.
 
j brown's body said:
"The Department of Homeland Security inspector general has directed the Secret Service to stop its internal investigations into what happened to text messages related to January 6 that may have been deleted, according to a letter reviewed by CNN.

The inspector general wrote that the Secret Service should stop investigating the matter because it could interfere with the inspector general’s own investigation into what happened to the agency’s text messages.

The letter adds to the growing tension between the Secret Service and the DHS inspector general over the potentially missing text messages, which are being sought by the House select committee as part of its investigation into former President Donald Trump’s actions and movements on January 6, 2021.

“To ensure the integrity of our investigation, the USSS must not engage in any further investigative activities regarding the collection and preservation of the evidence referenced above,” DHS deputy inspector general Gladys Ayala wrote in a letter to Secret Service Director James Murray on Wednesday evening. “This includes immediately refraining from interviewing potential witnesses, collecting devices or taking any other action that would interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation.”"

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Duh. Haven't they done enough damage already?
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People are going to go to jail over this.

 
The AntiDonald said:
There is a difference between congressional oversight and an agency watchdog (IG) investigation. Both have jurisdiction.

Your 'dog and pony show' is really getting old.
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He's a one trick pony show.
 
year2late said:
demanding to stop doing stuff...not adding to their workload

on the other hand if a police officer is suspected of wrong doing, is it proper for the police officer and those that may be complicit to investigate themselves?
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Why not? Trump was OK with appointing Sydney Powell as a WH special prosecutor? What a joke.
 
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Mycroft said:
The Secret Service is not a "police officer". It is an Agency...and an agency has a responsibility to investigate things that happen in their agency.
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Too bad for your excuse making campaign.

The Secret Service appears to have deleted texts after being ordered to preserve evidence.

They aren’t to be trusted, right now.

Oh, and we’re still waiting for all those Secret Service agents who the right wing noise machine promised up would appear to refute the testimony over your failed fuhrer’s infantile tantrum.
 
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