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When did they fight a defensive war?Invading Ukraine is definitely aggression.
And NATO is a defensive organization.
When did they fight a defensive war?Invading Ukraine is definitely aggression.
And NATO is a defensive organization.
When did they fight a defensive war?
What they wouldn't want is your Country and NATO controlling the black sea, and why would they attack Moldova there are many Russian supporters there, stop making shit up.To guarantee control of the Black Sea and to be in a position to threaten Moldova
Well that's my point they have only used military aggression like i said first against Yugoslavia, the Serbs never attacked a NATO Country, your argument is totally bankrupt.When did they have to?
Deterrence.
Look it up.
Well that's my point they have only used military aggression like i said first against Yugoslavia, the Serbs never attacked a NATO Country, your argument is totally bankrupt.
In other words the DETERRENCE worked perfectly.
As to bleating about the Yugoslavia that no longer existed.... Is there something about stopping ethnic cleansing/genocide that triggers you?
What they wouldn't want is your Country and NATO controlling the black sea, and why would they attack Moldova there are many Russian supporters there, stop making shit up.
Ukraine will never be in NATO the Russians won't tolerate it, it's one of the reasons for the war now.
High circles in Russia tell Putin what he wants to hear
Ther is a reason Russia is pulling out older and older equipment and it isnt because they are getting stronger
High circles in the west have observed that Russia is much more powerful now than at the beginning of the SMO. You are behind times. And as to what the equipment Russia is rolling out is doing to the Ukrainian Army all you have to do is listen to Zelensky and Gen Syrski.
And now NATO touches as much of Russias border as it would have if Ukraine, which wasnt joining NATO had joined.
Plus Ukraine will now almost certainly join NATO after the war
What does Putins land grab in Ukraine have to do with Georgia or Belarus?
So your claim is that if a country doesnt cave into the absurd demands of Putin he has the right to invade?
Jesus, it's been awhile since I've seen a casualty report this wholly terrible for RUS; spoiled for length:
Your posts make it clear that Putin has lost the war based on your excuse on why the war started. A false BS made up lousy excuse mind youI never said Putin had lost the war you did, and there is no raw expansionist agression, it's like you are in some alternative universe where the events in 2014 never happened,as fo Nato it's a criminal enterprise that serves American inyerests, tell me when it ever fought a defensive war ? it has just been one agressive war after another starting with the brutal illegal war against the former Yugoslavia bombing the Country for 78days, and as i said Finland had no problem with Russia for 80 years after WW2, so either they took leave of their senses making an enemy out of Russia or a lot of money has changed hands.
Because the Israeli lobby is unfortunately exceedingly and excessively powerful much to America's detriment.
Russia didn't have a problem with independent Ukraine,
NATO was never going to attack Russia unless attacked. Ukraine was not going to join NATO before Russia attacked. Ukraine will certainly join NATO after the war now.Putin's red line was Ukraine. And that is where the war is on. Maybe Nato can attack Russia from Finland and Sweden, if that is your point.
Zelensky wanted in But Ukraine didnt meet NATO requirements so could not even apply and no country can join while at war as it immediately invokes article 5Why cant they join now? Zelensky wanted in like yesterday
NATO doesn't target countries and no Belarus is a puppet of Putin it is not going to be consideredThose were also countries targeted for Nato admission
The past isnt the future the Monroe doctrine is goneRight. And it is straight from US' playbook. Cuban missile crisis and Monroe Doctrine
Zero hedge and storm front are not reliable sourcesHigh circles in the west have observed that Russia is much more powerful now than at the beginning of the SMO. You are behind times. And as to what the equipment Russia is rolling out is doing to the Ukrainian Army all you have to do is listen to Zelensky and Gen Syrski.
Both countries joined because they saw the raw naked expansionst agression of Russia and wanted the of protection of NATO
Your post (as usual) is not based in reality.
But then you already admitted Puytin lost the war so now you are desperate tyo find a safe space far from any windows
Good luck
These people who support NATO and Ukraine never ask why the West and NATO want to move onto Russia's borders it's clear the only reason is to provoke a response, NATO should have disbanded after the Soviet Union was no more and the Warsaw pact ended, so what the hell is it for?oh puleeeze. What reality you talking about? Military powers or alliances are by definition threats; especially to those outside the alliance. Cuba in the 60s saw the "raw naked aggression" of its neighbour to the north and sought protection from the Soviet Union. That was Cuba's right. But it does not change the fact that that particular exercise by Cuba of its sovereign rights also placed an unacceptable risk near the US. The US threatened war, as was also its right.
Maybe you should let Zelensky declare victory if Putin has lost. Zelensky and his military commanders are daily warning that they will lose if more is not done. Maybe you should listen to them
These people who support NATO and Ukraine never ask why the West and NATO want to move onto Russia's borders it's clear the only reason is to provoke a response, NATO should have disbanded after the Soviet Union was no more and the Warsaw pact ended, so what the hell is it for?
These people who support NATO and Ukraine never ask why the West and NATO want to move onto Russia's borders it's clear the only reason is to provoke a response, NATO should have disbanded after the Soviet Union was no more and the Warsaw pact ended, so what the hell is it for?
Nothing above is trueoh puleeeze. What reality you talking about? Military powers or alliances are by definition threats; especially to those outside the alliance. Cuba in the 60s saw the "raw naked aggression" of its neighbour to the north and sought protection from the Soviet Union. That was Cuba's right. But it does not change the fact that that particular exercise by Cuba of its sovereign rights also placed an unacceptable risk near the US. The US threatened war, as was also its right.
Putin has lost based on what the fascists propagandists are saying not my fault they made up a silly excuse for the warMaybe you should let Zelensky declare victory if Putin has lost. Zelensky and his military commanders are daily warning that they will lose if more is not done. Maybe you should listen to them
I will because it is demonstrably that powerful; just look at what they're coercing Biden to do despite engaging in what is essentially a full blown, real time genocide, nevermind nearly a century of consistent and excess influence.Blame it on that Jewish lobby. It is easier to blame the lobby than deal with the obvious. An escalation against Iran can be managed, an escalation against Russia not so much
That's just total nonsense no one asked them to police the World, it's just a foreign legion for the US and a money making scam for weapons sales, what gets me is there are people like you who actually agree with the scam.To protect nations from aggressor states....
That's just total nonsense no one asked them to police the World, it's just a foreign legion for the US and a money making scam for weapons sales, what gets me is there are people like you who actually agree with the scam.