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Despite being highly restricted, abortion is common in Nigeria..

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More evidence that restricting abortion does nothing to stop it. :)
Despite Being Highly Restricted, Abortion Is Common in Nigeria

Though permitted only when necessary to save a woman’s life, induced abortion is common in Nigeria. A new study, “The incidence of abortion in Nigeria,” conducted by researchers at the Guttmacher Institute and the University of Ibadan, finds that 1.25 million abortions were performed in the country in 2012, compared with the 610,000 abortions estimated to have occurred in Nigeria in 1996. This increase is due not only to greater population size, but also to an apparent rise in the abortion rate. The estimated abortion rate was 33 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–49 in 2012. Although this rate is greater than the 1996 rate (23 per 1,000) estimated in a previous study, the most prudent conclusion may be that the abortion rate has increased slightly, as the two rates were calculated using different approaches.
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Most of these abortions were clandestine and many were unsafe. Unsafe abortion is a major contributor to Nigeria’s maternal mortality rate, which remains among the highest in the world. Clandestine procedures are often carried out under unsanitary conditions by providers who are not appropriately trained. The resulting complications range from unchecked bleeding to serious infections and even death.
Another recent study by many of the same authors, “Maternal near-miss due to unsafe abortion and associated short term health and socioeconomic consequences in Nigeria,” examined cases in 2012 where women with pregnancy-related complications would have died if they had not received treatment. The researchers found that almost 10% of these near-miss events in Nigerian hospitals were due to unsafe abortion.
“These findings make clear not only that abortion is common in Nigeria, but that unsafe services are putting women’s health and lives at risk,” said Dr. Akinrinola Bankole, director of international research at the Guttmacher Institute and the study’s lead author. “Unwanted pregnancy is the root cause of most abortions. Nigerian women need access to high-quality family planning services to reduce rates of unintended pregnancy and the unsafe abortions that often follow.”
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Nigeria has low levels of contraceptive use. As a result, about one-quarter of the 9.2 million pregnancies that occurred in the country in 2012 were unintended. More than half (56%) of these unplanned pregnancies ended in abortion.
“When contraception is not used or fails, the evidence suggests that women with unwanted pregnancies often have unsafe abortions that put them at risk for adverse consequences,” added Professor Isaac Adewole of the University of Ibadan, who also authored the study. “We hope these findings inform discussions on the public health benefits of allowing expanded access to comprehensive abortion care for Nigerian women.”
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It does allow, however, for violent perpetrators to be arrested in the pursuit of justice for their victims.
 
David_N said:
Yeah, and look what that has done for these women.. :roll:
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Bad things? Cool beans, since they "these women" are the aforementioned perps.

There should always be legal consequences for killing another human being in aggression. If someone gets hurt trying to skirt a just law, that's on them.
 
David_N said:
Do you want me to start gathering posts from "pro lifers?"
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Actual ones like myself or the recent false flag ones?

Stick to the former and you will fail.
 
David_N said:
Many more.
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Yes, the assertion that those who perpetuate aggressive violence against other human beings should be arrested somehow constitutes "hates women."

Here's your pail:

:failpail:
 
JayDubya said:
Yes, the assertion that those who perpetuate aggressive violence against other human beings should be arrested somehow constitutes "hates women."

Here's your pail:

:failpail:
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"Aggressive violence." :roll:
 
David_N said:
"Aggressive violence." :roll:
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By you rolling your eyes, I can only assume that you have deluded yourself that my statement is somehow not objectively true.

Which it is.

You are welcome to explain to me your reasoning about why you support aggressive violence against the unborn; you are not welcome to deny the reality that you do.
 
JayDubya said:
By you rolling your eyes, I can only assume that you have deluded yourself that my statement is somehow not objectively true.

Which it is.
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Oh sure, it is "true" when using the definition of violence, we're also guilty of "aggressive violence" against cows.
 
David_N said:
Oh sure, it is "true" when using the definition of violence, we're also guilty of "aggressive violence" against cows.
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That would be technically true, but cows are not human beings and have no rights. Cows are property. There is no moral concern there and no one being wronged when a cow is slaughtered.



We are talking about human beings. Human beings should not be reduced to property - that is the mentality of those who supported slavery, and the mentality of those who continue to support abortion.
 
JayDubya said:
That would be technically true, but cows are not human beings and have no rights. Cows are property. There is no moral concern there and no one being wronged when a cow is slaughtered.



We are talking about human beings. Human beings should not be reduced to property - that is the mentality of those who supported slavery, and the mentality of those who continue to support abortion.
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Fetuses don't have rights either. /thread
 
David_N said:
Fetuses don't have rights either.
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As human beings, no matter what the stage of life, yeah they do. Just like every other group that's been exploited or harmed by people with your mindset throughout history who wanted to restrict their personhood.

/thread
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If you want that done, contact a moderator. I feel I have adequately defeated every aspect of what you have to say so closing it down is fine with me.
 
David_N said:
More evidence that restricting abortion does nothing to stop it. :)
Despite Being Highly Restricted, Abortion Is Common in Nigeria
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Of course' it's common:

Nigeria is a very impoverished nation which is incapable of supporting half it own citizens - often relying on handouts from other governments to feed their own people. Of course people have abortions there in large number because they cannot support a family.

No brainer.

But of course we're always going to have some ideological nutjob flip out over it - somehow managing to claim such things matter when on any given day the plights of many living in Nigeria don't even cross their mind or blip on their daily-concern radar (until someone makes a post about something they claim to give a flying **** about). "I care so much! Those vile beasts!" says the internet troll between stents of Skyrim. [Yeah - I'm so convinced anyone gives a dick **** :roll: ]
 
Nigeria still, I believe, allows men to rape women and then to escape prison, they have the option of marrying the women (against the women's will) instead. Men do this to get wives when they dont have the status or $$ to marry as well.

Nigeria has an appalling record on women's rights but it's not surprising that there are those that see no issues with how women are treated there.

The rest of us will continue to fight to ensure women are never again treated as 2nd class citizens, with their rights subordinate to men or the unborn.
 
David_N said:
More evidence that restricting abortion does nothing to stop it. :)
Despite Being Highly Restricted, Abortion Is Common in Nigeria
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That may be true, but that's not an argument, in and of itself, for the legalization of abortion. While there certainly can be more convincing arguments along those lines, merely stating that prohibition cannot stop it completely does not then mean that the act should be legal. Right? Murder, for instance, isn't eliminated because there are laws against it. But we don't' say that it should just be legal then.

This is a flawed argument. There are other routes to go in order to argue legitimacy and morality of abortion.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Of course' it's common:

Nigeria is a very impoverished nation which is incapable of supporting half it own citizens - often relying on handouts from other governments to feed their own people. Of course people have abortions there in large number because they cannot support a family.

No brainer.

But of course we're always going to have some ideological nutjob flip out over it - somehow managing to claim such things matter when on any given day the plights of many living in Nigeria don't even cross their mind or blip on their daily-concern radar (until someone makes a post about something they claim to give a flying **** about). "I care so much! Those vile beasts!" says the internet troll between stents of Skyrim. [Yeah - I'm so convinced anyone gives a dick **** :roll: ]
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Yes, because a child born that suffers starvation and dies is much better! Esp. when it even increases the suffering to the others in the family, perhaps leading to their losses to starvation as well. But hey, quantity is always better than quality of life :roll:
 
David_N said:
Fetuses don't have rights either. /thread
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Oh yes they do. They most certainly do. And just because you believe that they do not doesn't mean that they don't. They just don't lay in fluid without thinking, reacting to sudden noises, etc. They do a lot more in the womb. They can remember songs their mothers sing while pregnant. They hear their mothers voices and when they are born, they know who mom is, and who is not. They're human to us, just not to you. They deserve to have the right to life!
 
Lursa said:
Nigeria still, I believe, allows men to rape women and then to escape prison, they have the option of marrying the women (against the women's will) instead. Men do this to get wives when they dont have the status or $$ to marry as well.

Nigeria has an appalling record on women's rights but it's not surprising that there are those that see no issues with how women are treated there.

The rest of us will continue to fight to ensure women are never again treated as 2nd class citizens, with their rights subordinate to men or the unborn.
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But you don't fight for women. When have you ever lifted a finger to help women, especially pregnant women?

The only thing I can imagine is to kill their babies. Nice,
 
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