DeSantis Threatens Any School That Mandates Masks This Year

[Ginger Ale]

If the law bans schools from making vaccination a requirement of in-person learning then banning students on the grounds of them being unvaccinated is a prima facie violation of that law. Good for the governor.

Just because unvaxed Jimmy is still sick and spreading Covid doesn't mean you can keep him out of school. Don't judge Jimmy!! lol

This is just Covid mind you, you can still keep Carol out if she could still spread Measles. Just not Covid because that's the "lefts" virus.

You can't require a Covid vaccine at Universities, but don't try to register for school if you haven't had the vaccine for Measles, they say during a Covid pandemic. lol

It's Topsy Turvy land here right now.

So yeah, just means AZ is fawked. I would stay out of here for the next year or so. We'll be dying this fall. I'd go to Vermont.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

There was never any mask mandate in 1969, nor did the pandemic run "rampant for three years." It began in November 1968, just like COVID-19 began in November 2019, and ran until the next flu season began in November 1969. Some hospitals may have panicked and become completely irrational, but that was not the case with government. Nixon had just been elected President and we were looking forward to the beginning of the end of the Vietnam war. The nation was very optimistic in 1969 and growing economically. There were never any federal mask mandates until Biden crossed that line and violated both the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.

No businesses were shut down, no schools were closed in 1969. Nobody panicked in 1969 like they did in 2020 because the media wasn't intentionally inciting fear in 1969 like they did in 2020.

So 100K people died from the HKF, and you are applauding the fact that at no point in time did the government try to do anything to lessen that number?

Are you even listening to yourself?

 

[Ginger Ale]

Again, say what you want about him, but he had his team out there answering questions for hours.. Biden's team has given up even making their policy announcements via teleconference. Now they issue a memo and hide in their offices.

Do you have proof that he's talked to the public less than Trump so far, or is this just because you've sat and counted?

I don't like Biden, but, just because Trump talked a lot doesn't mean it was good for us to hear what that man was saying. Most of it was ranting, and not helpful in the slightest.

 

[Ginger Ale]

So 100K people died from the HKF, and you are applauding the fact that at no point in time did the government try to do anything to lessen that number?

Are you even listening to yourself?

You feel like you live in Arizona right now, don't you.....lol
I'm used to it.

 

[Rawley]

Do you have proof that he's talked to the public less than Trump so far, or is this just because you've sat and counted?

I don't like Biden, but, just because Trump talked a lot doesn't mean it was good for us to hear what that man was saying. Most of it was ranting, and not helpful in the slightest.

??? Do you not remember the COVID briefings? Daily - lasted hours. Fauci, Redfield, Birx, the Surgeon General, To the point where the loon media, CNN, MSNBC stopped televising them.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

??? Do you not remember the COVID briefings? Daily - lasted hours. Fauci, Redfield, Birx, the Surgeon General, To the point where the loon media, CNN, MSNBC stopped televising them.

Fat lotta good they did, when as soon as they were over, Tweety was on his favorite platform telling you that the very people he trotted out to tell you things didn't know what they were talking about.

 

[Rawley]

Fat lotta good they did, when as soon as they were over, Tweety was on his favorite platform telling you that the very people he trotted out to tell you things didn't know what they were talking about.

There was a discussion. REporters could ask the experts questions for hours. Under Biden they make these announcements in a memo that literally effect your daily life and then they hide in their offices. You clearly hate Trump, but he had an incredibly transparent administration.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

There was a discussion. REporters could ask the experts questions for hours. Under Biden they make these announcements in a memo that literally effect your daily life and then they hide in their offices. You clearly hate Trump, but he had an incredibly transparent administration.

So let me get this straight....explain to me how this scenario is somehow a good thing to you....

So a man gets hired to a job, bragging about the fact that he only hires the best people to work for him. Then, he trots those supposedly bestest people out to tell you things, and as soon as they tell you those things, he goes right behind them to tell you that those people don't know what they are talking about.

The most astounding part of the above is that somehow, that man has managed to convince you that not only does he hire the best people AND that he knows more than everyone else about everything AND that he is the only person looking out for you....but that the very public contradictions to those very things mean nothing.

It really is the greatest con job ever pulled off.

 

[Ginger Ale]

??? Do you not remember the COVID briefings? Daily - lasted hours. Fauci, Redfield, Birx, the Surgeon General, To the point where the loon media, CNN, MSNBC stopped televising them.

Logically, isn't that what Biden has the CDC doing now? You don't want weekly Covid briefing, you just want Biden to come on and say what he thinks about it? Personally? He's letting the experts talk about it. I feel I'm getting the info, regardless.

You could be right, but, I wish Trump would have done the same, instead of coming on himself and saying this.......



No offense, but with his base and the things they believe, maybe he shouldn't have talked so much. I don't know if you've noticed but they don't seem to get his sarcasm.

 

[Ginger Ale]

So let me get this straight....explain to me how this scenario is somehow a good thing to you....

So a man gets hired to a job, bragging about the fact that he only hires the best people to work for him. Then, he trots those supposedly bestest people out to tell you things, and as soon as they tell you those things, he goes right behind them to tell you that those people don't know what they are talking about.

The most astounding part of the above is that somehow, that man has managed to convince you that not only does he hire the best people AND that he knows more than everyone else about everything AND that he is the only person looking out for you....but that the very public contradictions to those very things mean nothing.

It really is the greatest con job ever pulled off.

I think it's so cute how you guys are all trying to make sense right now.

 

[trixare4kids]

The lack of transparency in this administration is frightening. Say what you will about Trump, but he and his team were out there for hours answering every question form the press.

True, his dealings with the press are few and far between and maybe there is a reason he is discouraged from saying much to the press.
Biden has shown us that he has a horrible temper not befitting of a president. Plus, he's a liar-pants on fire.

 

[Variant]

So let me get this straight....explain to me how this scenario is somehow a good thing to you....

So a man gets hired to a job, bragging about the fact that he only hires the best people to work for him. Then, he trots those supposedly bestest people out to tell you things, and as soon as they tell you those things, he goes right behind them to tell you that those people don't know what they are talking about.

The most astounding part of the above is that somehow, that man has managed to convince you that not only does he hire the best people AND that he knows more than everyone else about everything AND that he is the only person looking out for you....but that the very public contradictions to those very things mean nothing.

It really is the greatest con job ever pulled off.

Trumps superpower is that he never underestimates his marks.

 

[Glitch]

According to my calculations, the US population is one and a half times greater than it was in 1969, not six times.

And the COVID-19 reported deaths are easily one fifth or more of what they should be. When you pay hospitals to report COVID-19 related deaths, you better be prepared for a flood of new deaths. Hospitals are certainly going to be taking that cash cow all the way to the bank.

Providence hospital in Anchorage, for example, reported COVID-19 deaths if someone tested positive for COVID-19 and then died within six months. The manner of death didn't matter. They could have died in a car crash or a fire, and they were still being reported as a COVID-19 related death.

I did go to the CDC website and it's not saying yet how many people are estimated to have gotten the flu last season. It says it was very low, yes, but not nonexistent. This is being attributed to a record number of flu shots given and all the not breathing on each other stuff we were doing.

I said virtually nonexistent. When they are reporting fewer than 100 deaths when there was more than 10,000 deaths by this time during the 2018-2019 flu season, then the number of deaths this year is virtually nonexistent.

Currently they are working on the Delta variant of COVID-19. They are just going to attribute every flu-like symptom to a new variant of COVID-19 until they run through the entire alphabet just to keep that fear-mongering going so they can maintain their fascist iron grip on the nation.

I don't believe all hospitals (and doctors) were lying to get more money, and neither did Jensen, who got the whole rumor started and then backtracked like crazy. Yes, they got more money; no they weren't all lying about it.

Probably not all, but enough to blow this pandemic completely out of proportion and seriously inflate the death rate by somewhere between 5 and 10 times more than it really has been. Which is why I am comparing it to the Hong Kong Flu in the first place. No hospitals were bribed to manufacture deaths that were unrelated to the flu in 1969, so it was a much more honest count of actual deaths in 1969.

Your assertions are just brimming with excuses to try to minimize the impact of Covid. I'm not buying. Even if some of it's true, say half a million have died of Covid, it doesn't make it that much better. And WE AREN'T DONE, ARE WE?

The number that actually died from COVID-19 is probably in the range of between 60,000 and 120,000. It certainly isn't anywhere close to half a million deaths. COVID-19 ended in November 2020 when the new flu season began. There were no deaths as a result of COVID-19 since at least November. The deaths since last November were the result of a different strain of influenza, which they are conveniently calling a "variant of COVID-19" to keep that fear-mongering going. Apparently it is working in your case.

 

[Glitch]

So 100K people died from the HKF, and you are applauding the fact that at no point in time did the government try to do anything to lessen that number?

Are you even listening to yourself?

Absolutely. The government never once violated the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments in 1969, which cannot be said about Biden who violated both amendments on his very first day in office. Nixon had respect for the individual rights of the American people, while Biden just pisses on them.

Biden violates the US Constitution on his first day

Biden's first executive order will require masks on federal property (CNN) - President-elect Joe Biden, who plans to make the coronavirus pandemic his top priority, will begin his presidency by asking Americans to wear masks for 100 days and requiring their use on federal property. Most of the...

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Why am I not surprised that you support fascism, like a good leftist should?

 

[AmNat]

Unfortunately, your dirty ass rug rat can carry it with them to school because you are too stubborn to wear a mask a well, and they can pass it off to my kid unknowingly and they can bring it home to my immuno-compromised father after his liver transplant.

Put simply....leaving your kids alone puts ALL of our kids and families at risk.....and over something as simple as a ****ing mask. It really just boggles the mind.

Is your father vaccinated?

How exactly does wearing a mask impede that at all?

It interferes with the students' breathing.

Just because unvaxed Jimmy is still sick and spreading Covid doesn't mean you can keep him out of school. Don't judge Jimmy!! lol

You obviously didn't read what you posted.

If a school wishes to exclude students on a basis other than vaccination status, such as having an active Covid infection, they're allowed to do that. What a school can't do is exclude students specifically for not being vaccinated.

This is just Covid mind you, you can still keep Carol out if she could still spread Measles. Just not Covid because that's the "lefts" virus.

You can't require a Covid vaccine at Universities, but don't try to register for school if you haven't had the vaccine for Measles, they say during a Covid pandemic. lol

It's Topsy Turvy land here right now.

Measles at least actually harms children. Though I don't agree with vaccine mandates for Measles either. Parents should make that decision for their own kids.

So yeah, just means AZ is fawked. I would stay out of here for the next year or so. We'll be dying this fall. I'd go to Vermont.

Strangely enough, Vermont also protects schoolchildren from mask mandates.

 

[AmNat]

So a man gets hired to a job, bragging about the fact that he only hires the best people to work for him. Then, he trots those supposedly bestest people out to tell you things, and as soon as they tell you those things, he goes right behind them to tell you that those people don't know what they are talking about.

You know Trump didn't hire Fauci right?

 

[bullseyelqcs]

You know Trump didn't hire Fauci right?

Yep. Fortunately for me, I wasn't talking about Fauci. We have his own doctor on record as advising for mask usage and vaccination, and Trump contradicting him as well.

 

[Phys251]

This guy is just disgusting!

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he will sign an executive order to issue emergency rules for "protecting the rights of parents," making face masks optional across the state in schools and leaving it up to parents...
It says, among other things, that Education Commissioner Richard Corcoran "shall pursue all legal means available to ensure school districts adhere to Florida law, including ... withholding state funds from noncompliant school boards...."

Florida Gov. DeSantis signs executive order making masks in schools optional

As COVID cases surge in the state, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to sign an executive order to make face masks optional across the state in schools.

www.usatoday.com

This directive from DeSantis was issued today, AFTER the breaking news from the CDC that Delta is as contagious as chickenpox and is being spread by both vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. The CDC has recommended all students and staff in K-12 schools mask, regardless of where. DeSantis says pfffft.

He's talking about Florida's children. If I had a child in school in Florida right now, I'd be looking into homeschooling. In light of what we've just learned, I sure wouldn't be risking my kids for some Freedumb loving parents in my community.

If there's any consolation, I can just imagine the Lincoln Project's campaign ads in '22 about him. It will be pages of graphs of Covid spiking, interspersed with all his Freedumb orders re: Covid. This man is no leader. No concern for his people's lives, just the votes of those he can impress.

There is nothing whatsoever redeeming about DeathSantis. Even if Floridians have the good sense to vote him out next year, may will be dead by then because of this MAGAt.

 

[Phys251]

Everything that righties accuse others of doing, they do or enable themselves. Every single thing.

For example:

Absolutely. The government never once violated the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments in 1969, which cannot be said about Biden who violated both amendments on his very first day in office. Nixon had respect for the individual rights of the American people, while Biden just pisses on them.

Biden violates the US Constitution on his first day

Biden's first executive order will require masks on federal property (CNN) - President-elect Joe Biden, who plans to make the coronavirus pandemic his top priority, will begin his presidency by asking Americans to wear masks for 100 days and requiring their use on federal property. Most of the...

debatepolitics.com

Why am I not surprised that you support fascism, like a good leftist should?

Over 600,000 people are dead from COVID-19, and your side has no problem with that. Do try to keep up with which side is fascist.

 

[mrjurrs]

This guy is just disgusting!

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he will sign an executive order to issue emergency rules for "protecting the rights of parents," making face masks optional across the state in schools and leaving it up to parents...
It says, among other things, that Education Commissioner Richard Corcoran "shall pursue all legal means available to ensure school districts adhere to Florida law, including ... withholding state funds from noncompliant school boards...."

Florida Gov. DeSantis signs executive order making masks in schools optional

As COVID cases surge in the state, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to sign an executive order to make face masks optional across the state in schools.

www.usatoday.com

This directive from DeSantis was issued today, AFTER the breaking news from the CDC that Delta is as contagious as chickenpox and is being spread by both vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. The CDC has recommended all students and staff in K-12 schools mask, regardless of where. DeSantis says pfffft.

He's talking about Florida's children. If I had a child in school in Florida right now, I'd be looking into homeschooling. In light of what we've just learned, I sure wouldn't be risking my kids for some Freedumb loving parents in my community.

If there's any consolation, I can just imagine the Lincoln Project's campaign ads in '22 about him. It will be pages of graphs of Covid spiking, interspersed with all his Freedumb orders re: Covid. This man is no leader. No concern for his people's lives, just the votes of those he can impress.

And this is the guy R's want to represent them post djt?

Hollywood would reject that script as unbelievable.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

This guy is just disgusting!

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he will sign an executive order to issue emergency rules for "protecting the rights of parents," making face masks optional across the state in schools and leaving it up to parents...
It says, among other things, that Education Commissioner Richard Corcoran "shall pursue all legal means available to ensure school districts adhere to Florida law, including ... withholding state funds from noncompliant school boards...."

Florida Gov. DeSantis signs executive order making masks in schools optional

As COVID cases surge in the state, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to sign an executive order to make face masks optional across the state in schools.

www.usatoday.com

This directive from DeSantis was issued today, AFTER the breaking news from the CDC that Delta is as contagious as chickenpox and is being spread by both vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. The CDC has recommended all students and staff in K-12 schools mask, regardless of where. DeSantis says pfffft.

He's talking about Florida's children. If I had a child in school in Florida right now, I'd be looking into homeschooling. In light of what we've just learned, I sure wouldn't be risking my kids for some Freedumb loving parents in my community.

If there's any consolation, I can just imagine the Lincoln Project's campaign ads in '22 about him. It will be pages of graphs of Covid spiking, interspersed with all his Freedumb orders re: Covid. This man is no leader. No concern for his people's lives, just the votes of those he can impress.

I WILL NOT ALLOW ANY CHILDREN TO BE SAFE WHILE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WHETHER BY BULLET OR HITTING THEM WITH CARS AND/OR BUILDINGS OR KILLING THEM WITH PLAGUE, BY GOD WE WILL HUNT DOWN AND LEAVE NO CHILD BREATHING BEHIND

 

[mrjurrs]

Everything that righties accuse others of doing, they do or enable themselves. Every single thing.

For example:



Over 600,000 people are dead from COVID-19, and your side has no problem with that. Do try to keep up with which side is fascist.

Glitch runs his own shadow SCOTUS where his constitutional interpretations are the correct interpretations.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

Is your father vaccinated?

Yep. Problem is that being in his compromised state, he carries higher risk of breakthrough infection and a higher risk for worse symptoms from such an infection.

It interferes with the students' breathing.

So does breathing in most places, considering the pollution. Not sure if the inconvenience is big enough to allow for running around unmasked.

You obviously didn't read what you posted.

If a school wishes to exclude students on a basis other than vaccination status, such as having an active Covid infection, they're allowed to do that. What a school can't do is exclude students specifically for not being vaccinated.

Interesting. This has been an issue forever given that most school districts won't allow you to send your kid if they aren't vaccinated against measles and chicken pox. I haven't seen people making this kind a stink over it. Now, all of a sudden, COVID is a bridge too far? Gimme a ****ing break.

Measles at least actually harms children. Though I don't agree with vaccine mandates for Measles either. Parents should make that decision for their own kids.

They SHOULD make that decision, but there are enough out there that wouldn't that could cause a big issue for the rest of us, and that is why mandates exist. Sometimes, you just have to do what you have to do to keep the stupid among us from killing us all.

 

[Phys251]

And this is the guy R's want to represent them post djt?

Hollywood would reject that script as unbelievable.

DeathSantis is donald trump with a brain. God be with this country if he ever becomes president.

 

[Glitch]

Everything that righties accuse others of doing, they do or enable themselves. Every single thing.

For example:



Over 600,000 people are dead from COVID-19, and your side has no problem with that. Do try to keep up with which side is fascist.

If you believe that, I have some ocean-front property in South Dakota that you are gonna love!