DeSantis Flies Migrants To Martha's Vinyard

[bubbabgone]

Dude.

Apprehensions, detentions, and expulsions are up.

If the border was open they wouldn't be apprehending, detaining, or expelling people.

Think for christs sake.

Logic is not one of your strengths is it.
If you leave your door open all day so intruders will come in and go out the back door, your door was still open all day wasn't it.

If the border was closed everywhere there'd be no place to stop anywhere but the Port Of Entry, would there.

And, yes, I did expect you to avoid being honest about Joe Biden's mental decline that everyone sees and it shows in your response.
So you lack logic & honesty.
You didn't disappoint.

 

[Luce]

heh heh.
You didn't read your own link.

I did.

Try being more honest.

 

[bubbabgone]

I did.

Try being more honest.

I bet I see your problem. Your link had an internal link that defines "refugee". "Cuz I wanna stay here" isn't one of the criteria.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Logic is not one of your strengths is it.

Lol. How ironic.

Apprehensions, detentions, and expulsions are up.

If the border was open they wouldn't be apprehending, detaining, or expelling people now would they?

Do you aprehend and detain people crossing an open border?


Think for christs sake.

 

[jaypatriot]

Politics is not intended to be a game show for talk radio types. Colorful targets are for no nothings.

The sort of people who refer to “Ron” and “Tucker” as is they’re acquaintances.

Politics is a deadly game with sometimes brutal consequences.
The FBI went after Trump's campaign members without evidence and helped Hillary concoct a conspiracy against Trump (without evidence_ which kept the country busy for almost two years.

You, on the other hand, traffic in faux outrage against a GOP politician who plays a serious political game against the Biden Administration.
Do you care that much for 50 migrants who are now living in a sanctuary state receiving shelter, food, and medical care in Cape Cod. All for free at the taxpayer' expense? Don't you have something more to worry about?
You have heard the expression 'making a mountain out of a molehill', right ?

 

[jaypatriot]

Yes, I have a "hard on". Don't all women get hard ons?

Trump is human garbage, and so is DeSantis. If you don't like people "attacking" them you should find another board to post on. This board is called "Debate Politics", not "Debate Knitting" or "Debate NASCAR".

How about we debate the merits of DeSantis' political master stroke and not constantly rant about DeSantis' evil nature or his cruelty toward migrants who won the golden ticket e-ride to a sanctuary state.?

Step down off your moral high horse and tell me what you think about the fallout of DeSantis making national headlines because he dared to send migrants to an elite, Liberal enclave off the coast of Mass?
Was it a good or a bad move politically? And how do you think it will hurt him among the millions of Conservatives sick of Biden ignoring federal law with his open borders?
And you don't even need to include references to knitting or NASCAR in any of your emotional responses.

 

[jaypatriot]

Lol. How ironic.

Apprehensions, detentions, and expulsions are up.

If the border was open they wouldn't be apprehending, detaining, or expelling people now would they?

Do you aprehend and detain people crossing an open border?


Think for christs sake.

Are millions crossing the border unimpeded? Getting asylum and then disappearing into the fabric of our society?
Think for Christ sake.

FAIR Analysis: 4.9 Million Illegal Aliens Have Crossed our Borders Since President Biden Took Office​

Photo by ISAAC GUZMAN/AFP via Getty Images



(August 16, 2022, Washington, D.C.) — The Federation for American Immigration Reform issued the following statement, as well as a deeper dive into the growing border crisis, based on data quietly released yesterday by the Biden administration:
Earlier this month, President Biden took credit for the July inflation rate being “only” 8.5 percent. Now that July border numbers are finally public, the White House may take credit for the fact that “only” 199,976 illegal aliens crossed our border, down from 207,416 in June. A minor drop in border encounters is not encouraging. Traditionally, numbers drop in the hottest summer months, and last month’s figures actually represent a 325 percent increase over the average number of July apprehensions under the Trump administration. More significantly, July numbers bring the total of illegal aliens crossing our borders since President Biden took office to 4.9 million, including some 900,000 “gotaways” who eluded apprehension and have since disappeared into American communities.
“Roughly the equivalent of the entire population of Ireland has illegally entered the United States in the 18 months President Biden has been in office, with many being released into American communities. In that time, the Biden administration has blamed an unprecedented surge of illegal immigration on all sorts of external factors, except their own sabotage of our nation’s immigration laws. The endless flow of illegal aliens and the incursion of lethal narcotics pouring across our border will not end until this administration demonstrates a willingness to enforce our laws,” said Dan Stein, president of FAIR.

FAIR Border Snapshot for July 2022​

• Since President Biden took office, nearly 4.9 million illegal aliens have crossed our borders.
  • This includes the 3.9 million nationwide total reported by CBP – which includes a whopping 3.4 million at our Southwest border – as well as approximately 900,000 gotaways who have entered the country undetected per agency sources.

 

[NolanVoyd]

How about we debate the merits of DeSantis' political master stroke and not constantly rant about DeSantis' evil nature or his cruelty toward migrants who won the golden ticket e-ride to a sanctuary state.?

The two things are I seperable.

What you call his masterstroke is a result of DeSantis' evil nature and his cruelty toward migrants

sick of Biden ignoring federal law with his open borders?

The borders are not open.

Stop repeating lies.

 

[jaypatriot]

It's not just one thing. It's a hole host of things the Party has done particularly since Trump became its standard barrier that has set me against the GOP.

Voters will always find a reason to dislike a politician or a political party.
That's why so many Hispanics are turning Republican and why so many people are sick of Democratic rule in NY and CA to where they are moving to red states.

 

[jaypatriot]

Right. Because we are nation of laws not a banana republic.

What laws do you think DeSantis broke?
Will it be another frivolous law suit accusing DeSantis of kidnapping or fraud?
And will it do anything to hurt DeSantis re-election bid in FL this November?
Those are the more serious questions not based on any cries from someone sitting on his/her moral high horse trying to virtue signal their faux outrage to fellow posters.

 

[tres borrachos]

How about we debate the merits of DeSantis' political master stroke and not constantly rant about DeSantis' evil nature or his cruelty toward migrants who won the golden ticket e-ride to a sanctuary state.?

Step down off your moral high horse and tell me what you think about the fallout of DeSantis making national headlines because he dared to send migrants to an elite, Liberal enclave off the coast of Mass?
Was it a good or a bad move politically? And how do you think it will hurt him among the millions of Conservatives sick of Biden ignoring federal law with his open borders?
And you don't even need to include references to knitting or NASCAR in any of your emotional responses.

Using children as pawns is a "political master stroke"? Sorry. I don't like the gutter. You do.

 

[jaypatriot]

What you call his masterstroke is a result of DeSantis' evil nature and his cruelty toward migrants

And that will result in what? Liberals/Progressives refusing to vote for him in FL this November or not voting for him in 2024 when he becomes the GOP nominee?
He accomplished his goal and now everyone is addressing his political gambit.
That's what got you upset.
That's politics and not just puffing out your collective chests in righteous indignation.

 

[jaypatriot]

Using children as pawns is a "political master stroke"? Sorry. I don't like the gutter. You do.

Those kids are probably happy as clams in a half shell.
They won't be kidnapped, made to join a cartel gang, sold into slavery, or drowned in the Rio Grande. They're living in a sanctuary state getting ready to gaze at beautiful Fall colors.
You want to look at a half empty glass? I sure don't. And you probably have no idea at all how they are doing. You're basically posturing and showing faux outrage because DeSantis got national attention with just one act.

 

[tres borrachos]

Those kids are probably happy as clams in a half shell.
They won't be kidnapped, made to join a cartel gang, sold into slavery, or drowned in the Rio Grande. They're living in a sanctuary state getting ready to gaze at beautiful Fall colors.
You want to look at a half empty glass? I sure don't. And you probably have no idea at all how they are doing. You're basically posturing and showing faux outrage because DeSantis got national attention with just one act.

Yes, it's all good to use kids as political pawns. I get it. It's the new Republican way. Makes me so glad to have left the party. Disgusting pathetic sick people.

 

[jaypatriot]

Yes, it's all good to use kids as political pawns. I get it. It's the new Republican way. Makes me so glad to have left the party. Disgusting pathetic sick people.

I guess if you didn't have your outrage over some political stunt made by a Republican, debating politics would be pretty boring for you.
Now you can mourn for kids happily ensconced on a military base away from the squalor and depredations of the southern border.
You can feel like you're doing something good for them feeling sorry for kids who escaped the depravity and threats from Mexican gangs on the border.
A good example of Liberal virtue signaling.

 

[tres borrachos]

I guess if you didn't have your outrage over some political stunt made by a Republican, debating politics would be pretty boring for you.
Now you can mourn for kids happily ensconced on a military base away from the squalor and depredations of the southern border.
You can feel like you're doing something good for them feeling sorry for kids who escaped the depravity and threats from Mexican gangs on the border.
A good example of Liberal virtue signaling.

I've been a Republican since 1980. I left the party when the morons like Trump and DeSantis took it over. I will come back when they and the people who support their political stunts have all moved on, and it gets back to the party of adults and humans, not assholes.

Fail less, if that's possible.

 

[jaypatriot]

I've been a Republican since 1980. I left the party when the morons like Trump and DeSantis took it over. I will come back when they and the people who support their political stunts have all moved on, and it gets back to the party of adults and humans, not assholes.

Fail less, if that's possible.

You don't mince your words. That's good.
But you might be throwing out the baby with the bath water.

 

[NolanVoyd]

And that will result in what? Liberals/Progressives refusing to vote for him in FL this November or not voting for him in 2024 when he becomes the GOP nominee?

More like moderates and Cubans not voting for him in either.

That's politics and not just puffing out your collective chests in righteous indignation.

No, lying to and deceiving the least among us is not just politics.

It's a demonstration of what a total asshole he is.

It will cost him votes.

 

[Paradoxical]

I may as well be talking to a brick wall. If Black people want to be hired at car washes, for drywall, electrical, carpentry, masonry, or roofing, all they need to do is apply.

At minimum wage or less?

 

[Gnosis]

At minimum wage or less?

What were those jobs paying before immigrants from south of the US began entering the country?

 

[Northern Light]

'Out of sight, out of mind'. That's De Santis' reasoning in this case. I doubt De Santis cares much about anything except self-promotion and his political ambition.

This move was political just as much as it was practical. The immigration levels in Canada and the U.S. are skyrocketing thanks to the neo-liberal agenda. They have no real plan to create a sustainable society that can house, feed, and provide for these people. In Canada, Trudeau just announced this summer that Canada will be taking 400,000 new immigrants per year going forward, which is a 0.1% population increase per year. The systems here will not re-certify people in their professions easily, so a lot of these new immigrants are going to become dependent on social systems to survive, working menial jobs.

The neo-liberal rationale is that the birth rates in our countries are not going to meet replacement, so we need to bring in new people. Yeah, but we should make them skilled people who will make our society better. Instead, they are inflating the low-income masses. There is no rhyme or reason.

I see the United States is having the same problem. You're bringing in all these new people but with no long-term plan to integrate them.

 

[Paradoxical]

What were those jobs paying before immigrants from south of the US began entering the country?

That was 40 years ago and the question is irrelevant. You insisted that illegal aliens were NOT taking the jobs that blacks used to do and I proved you wrong with 3 links as you requested. You should politely slink away so you don't get embarrassed even further.

 

[Gnosis]

That was 40 years ago and the question is irrelevant. You insisted that illegal aliens were NOT taking the jobs that blacks used to do and I proved you wrong with 3 links as you requested. You should politely slink away so you don't get embarrassed even further.

No, that's another lie in this unbearable string of incessant lies. I insisted that your assertion that Black people cannot get jobs because illegal immigrants took them is false. Because it is.

 

[Paradoxical]

I may as well be talking to a brick wall. If Black people want to be hired at car washes, for drywall, electrical, carpentry, masonry, or roofing, all they need to do is apply.

I sent you links. you refused to read them. Not my fault you choose to remain in ignorance.

If a young black guy ios getting welfare that pays almost as much as minimum wage, why work? Illegal aliens don't qualify.

 

[Gnosis]

I sent you links. you refused to read them. Not my fault you choose to remain in ignorance.

If a young black guy ios getting welfare that pays almost as much as minimum wage, why work? Illegal aliens don't qualify.

I did read them. I also responded to them. And you already replied to this post. Get it together.