Deported Immigrant Activist asks for Refuge in US.....

[MMC]

She's Back in the US again and just spoke out at a Methodist Church here in Chicago. I believe she will look to stay at the Church again. Until Obama gives her an answer. What say ye?


A Mexican immigrant rights advocate who gained international attention when she took refuge in a Chicago church before being deported asked Tuesday for refuge in the United States on humanitarian grounds.

Elvira Arellano crossed into the United States with her U.S.-born teenage and 4-year-old sons along with a group of Mexican and Central American migrants from the border city of Tijuana, many of them deported mothers with U.S.-born children.

"I am asking that they let me in the United States legally on humanitarian grounds, because I am a defender of human rights in Mexico and I've received kidnapping and violence threats," Arellano said before entering the U.S. "But more importantly, because they have separated my son from his chance to have a good upbringing."

Customs and Border Protection didn't immediately respond to questions about the children with U.S. citizenship.

An official at the Mexican consulate in San Diego who spoke on condition of anonymity because the cases are considered private confirmed that U.S. citizen children are being turned over to child welfare authorities. The official didn't know how many.

Rocio Hernandez, an organizer for the National Immigrant Youth Alliance, said that 14 U.S. children had been separated from their parents and put in shelters before Sunday.....snip~

Deported immigrant activist asks for refuge in US - GreenwichTime

She classified as Illegal, deported and now they report that she is a Deported Immigrant Activist. Yet it is was others here they got them to come back. Outside their family members.

 

[APACHERAT]

Elvira Arellano crossed into the United States with her U.S.-born teenage and 4-year-old sons along with a group of Mexican and Central American migrants from the border city of Tijuana, many of them deported mothers with U.S.-born children.

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Something is seriously wrong in fact it should be a seriouse national security red flag if illegal aliens, drug smugglers, convicted foreign felons, pedophiles and dog rapist not forgetting possiable terrorist can enter the USA from any where near Tiajuana, Mexico. Something is seriously wrong.

I'm sure the Obama administration had ordered the Border Patrol to turn their heads. Obama sees three undocumented Democrats.

 

[Wiseone]

Something is seriously wrong in fact it should be a seriouse national security red flag if illegal aliens, drug smugglers, convicted foreign felons, pedophiles and dog rapist not forgetting possiable terrorist can enter the USA from any where near Tiajuana, Mexico. Something is seriously wrong.

I'm sure the Obama administration had ordered the Border Patrol to turn their heads. Obama sees three undocumented Democrats.

Ah hmmm noooo

 

[CalGun]

So if you believe in ignoring our laws can I ignore the tax code?

Ah hmmm noooo

 

[Wiseone]

So if you believe in ignoring our laws can I ignore the tax code?

No I think saying Obama ordered the border patrol to let these particular folks in is stupid.

 

[americanwoman]

No I think saying Obama ordered the border patrol to let these particular folks in is stupid.

It just shows they didn't read the article and have no understanding of this topic.

 

[APACHERAT]

No I think saying Obama ordered the border patrol to let these particular folks in is stupid.

Do you really want me to provide a credible source that the Obama administration hasn't already ordered the U.S. Border Patrol from securing our borders ?

Just recently a Federal Judge in Texas busted the Obama administration ordering the Border Patrol of just not allowing a Mexican illegal alien to enter the USA but the taxpayers paid for his airplane ticket to reunite the illegal to the east coast with his family members who are already residing illegally in America.

Where's the ****ing outrage ?

 

[APACHERAT]

>" The National Border Patrol Council has come forward to reveal to the American public once again management practices that could be risking the lives of Americans -- and the lives of illegal immigrants.
Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council, spoke exclusively with Breitbart News and claimed that Border Patrol management has begun the practice of ordering Border Patrol Agents to stand down and cease pursuing drug smugglers, human smugglers and traffickers, and illegal aliens. He also warned it could lead to illegal aliens entering the country from nations associated with terrorism.

“It doesn’t matter whether it’s drugs, bodies, or how large the group is, our agents are being ordered to stand down by Border Patrol management,” said Moran. "I have received reports from our agents in every single sector from San Diego to the Rio Grande Valley in Texas that they are receiving these orders."..."<

Exclusive--Border Patrol Rep Claims Agents Being Ordered to Stand Down

More insanity from the Obama administration.

Border Patrol Agents Ordered To Run, Hide From Shooters | Judicial Watch

DHS tells American border guards to run away from illegal immigrants | The Daily Caller!

Government suspends border patrol

More insanity from Obama:

Obama's ICE director defends transport of illegal immigrant children as 'appropriate and legal'

The head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement defended the role of federal agents in transporting illegal immigrant children after a federal judge complained they were hand-delivering smuggled kids to parents in the United States.

ICE director defends transport of illegal immigrant children as 'appropriate and legal' | Fox News

 

[clownboy]

ICE should have been at the press conference, doing their job. Now, nothing left to do but round up the lot of them and deport immediately. Her problems in Mexico are between her and Mexico.

 

[joko104]

Everyone is trying to make her generic. Does she have a legitimate claim that she has been targeted by the Mexican government for her pursuing human rights IN MEXICO? Or is that just a made up excuse?

 

[MMC]

It just shows they didn't read the article and have no understanding of this topic.

Mornin' AW :2wave: Who is they.....whats hard to understand about an Illegal who was deported but is now back in the US. Do you think she would have came back sooner if she wouldn't have got pregnant down in Mexico with her 4th or 5th kid. How much activism was she doing then down in Mexico?

Organized by the National Immigrant Youth Alliance, this was fourth such group to enter the U.S. at the Otay Mesa border crossing in San Diego in the last nine days, as part of protests to demand an overhaul of U.S. immigration laws and an end to deportations.....snip~

So she willingly knows she is here in the US Illegally.....but she thinks she has the Right to Engage the US president to grant her asylum.

Do you think that if she was an activist in Mexico and taking any sort of issue on down there. That she would have made the news? It says she started a home for Deportees in Mexico. Do you think that can be validated and if it an actual sponsored establishment and charity with the Mexican government?

I know that when someone mentions Obama that this enough to cause those to have a meltdown.....do you think since some view it as his Admin and all policy thru whatever Dept has issues. That this why they name him out.

What about this group......this, National Youth Alliance group that managed to get 4 groups of Illegals into the US.....should be held responsible for aiding and abetting those to break the law?

Do you think those like Wiseone can figure out that part about that group getting in 4 different groups of Illegals into the US. Contacting them in Mexico and having them come back. You did notice how.....there was nothing said about the Law or the OP. Nor Border control Detaining them and them letting them go.....Right? Notice nothing about the issue or the Illegal that is back in the US.

Just the whine over someone that said something about Obama. Whats really funny is that not one of them on the bricks will even open their mouths to such a degree as they do here. That visual perception is &#^$%* $^#&#@. Isn't it?????

 

[americanwoman]

Mornin' AW :2wave: Who is they.....whats hard to understand about an Illegal who was deported but is now back in the US. Do you think she would have came back sooner if she wouldn't have got pregnant down in Mexico with her 4th or 5th kid. How much activism was she doing then down in Mexico?

Organized by the National Immigrant Youth Alliance, this was fourth such group to enter the U.S. at the Otay Mesa border crossing in San Diego in the last nine days, as part of protests to demand an overhaul of U.S. immigration laws and an end to deportations.....snip~

So she willingly knows she is here in the US Illegally.....but she thinks she has the Right to Engage the US president to grant her asylum.

Do you think that if she was an activist in Mexico and taking any sort of issue on down there. That she would have made the news? It says she started a home for Deportees in Mexico. Do you think that can be validated and if it an actual sponsored establishment and charity with the Mexican government?

I know that when someone mentions Obama that this enough to cause those to have a meltdown.....do you think since some view it as his Admin and all policy thru whatever Dept has issues. That this why they name him out.

What about this group......this, National Youth Alliance group that managed to get 4 groups of Illegals into the US.....should be held responsible for aiding and abetting those to break the law?

Do you think those like Wiseone can figure out that part about that group getting in 4 different groups of Illegals into the US. Contacting them in Mexico and having them come back. You did notice how.....there was nothing said about the Law or the OP. Nor Border control Detaining them and them letting them go.....Right? Notice nothing about the issue or the Illegal that is back in the US.

Just the whine over someone that said something about Obama. Whats really funny is that not one of them on the bricks will even open their mouths to such a degree as they do here. That visual perception is &#^$%* $^#&#@. Isn't it?????

I don't necessarily agree with the group and their approach on bringing people here. I also don't know how true this woman's claims are when requesting refugee status, but if she feels a stronger alliance to the U.S. than Mexico and wants to live and work here, I have no problem with that. I just don't agree with deporting this woman and leaving her child who is a citizen here in foster care.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

She has no right to be here and neither does her child. We need to grow a spine and make it clear that children born inside our borders who's parents came here as a result of crime should not be granted citizenship. These people don't respect any laws. We don't need them here.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I don't necessarily agree with the group and their approach on bringing people here. I also don't know how true this woman's claims are when requesting refugee status, but if she feels a stronger alliance to the U.S. than Mexico and wants to live and work here, I have no problem with that. I just don't agree with deporting this woman and leaving her child who is a citizen here in foster care.

The US immigration law, even under the most relaxed "reform" proposals, will never be open borders and letting each foreign citizen decide that if they prefer the US then they are alowed to enter and stay. I would imagine that plenty of other folks now in Mexico, as well as in other nations, would much prefer to try life in the US and that thousands of her fellow Mexican citizens are patiently waiting for legal entry to the US. If US immigration "policy" becomes slanted further toward granting those that simpy decide that they prefer to live here and come here outside the law then why even have any immigration policy/law at all?

 

[MMC]

I don't necessarily agree with the group and their approach on bringing people here. I also don't know how true this woman's claims are when requesting refugee status, but if she feels a stronger alliance to the U.S. than Mexico and wants to live and work here, I have no problem with that. I just don't agree with deporting this woman and leaving her child who is a citizen here in foster care.

What about the Kid she had in Mexico? He isn't a US Citizen.....he was born there. He is a citizen of Mexico. Why does that become our problem now?

Then she has kids that are US Citizens. I don't know how that all works out. But she does know she is here Illegally again. Came Right back and even got up to give a Speech.

That's why I said.....it could be checked on this house she had. As there is difference of her just buying a house and letting deportees stay there until they can figure a way to get back in. As oppose to creating a Charitable organization or some activist group.

Also they didn't have to trek over the Border.....since this group had them brought Right there to San Diego. Then they just went into the Mexican Consulate. Though somehow she got from there to Chicago to give this speech and go back to the Church she stayed with last time trying to avoid deportation. She thought the Church would stop it.....last time.

Also some of them do have family members that are legal. Wherein their kids can go to them. Up here I know some that had their kids stay with good friends of their family that were legal. While they had to go back to Mexico. Course they came back too.

 

[americanwoman]

She has no right to be here and neither does her child. We need to grow a spine and make it clear that children born inside our borders who's parents came here as a result of crime should not be granted citizenship. These people don't respect any laws. We don't need them here.

We can change the law but it doesn't change the ones that were already born here are citizens. The child who is a US citizen has every bit as a right to be here as you do.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

We can change the law but it doesn't change the ones that were already born here are citizens. The child who is a US citizen has every bit as a right to be here as you do.

And why is that? Children born here to foreign diplomats do not automatically get citizenship. Are you claiming there is some magical event connected to being born within our borders illegally?

It's like claiming that the money stolen in a bank robbery and then given to the robber's children is the children's money.

 

[1750Texan]

Do you really want me to provide a credible source that the Obama administration hasn't already ordered the U.S. Border Patrol from securing our borders ?

Just recently a Federal Judge in Texas busted the Obama administration ordering the Border Patrol of just not allowing a Mexican illegal alien to enter the USA but the taxpayers paid for his airplane ticket to reunite the illegal to the east coast with his family members who are already residing illegally in America.

Where's the ****ing outrage ?

I really surprised how people on this forum never cite their source...

 

[1750Texan]

And why is that? Children born here to foreign diplomats do not automatically get citizenship. Are you claiming there is some magical event connected to being born within our borders illegally?

It's like claiming that the money stolen in a bank robbery and then given to the robber's children is the children's money.

How is being born in the US an unlawful act?

There is no federal or state statute that has any implication of criminality for one being born in the US....NOT ONE!

It's like claiming that the money stolen in a bank robbery and then given to the robber's children is the children's money

Your analogy is all out of wack... The correct analogy would be if the parents committed a crime, that the children would be held culpable as well.

Is that not a more accurate analogy to your way of thinking? Of course it is.

 

[APACHERAT]

I really surprised how people on this forum never cite their source...

How surprised were you when on the next post (post #8) that I provided numerous sources.

 

[1750Texan]

How surprised were you when on the next post (post #8) that I provided numerous sources.

I did not see your next post...I went elsewhere. So I guess "not at all" is the answer.

Usually one posts links on the post they make their contention. I guess you work differently.

 

[americanwoman]

And why is that? Children born here to foreign diplomats do not automatically get citizenship. Are you claiming there is some magical event connected to being born within our borders illegally?

It's like claiming that the money stolen in a bank robbery and then given to the robber's children is the children's money.

It's the fourteenth amendment in our constitution, I don't claim any kind of magical event I only know what is the law. If you don't like it then go lobby against it in Washington.

 

[APACHERAT]

I did not see your next post...I went elsewhere. So I guess "not at all" is the answer.

Usually one posts links on the post they make their contention. I guess you work differently.

Post #7 was a response to a particular person. He knows exactly what I meant when I said >"Do you really want me to provide a credible source that the Obama administration hasn't already ordered the U.S. Border Patrol from securing our borders ?"< It's reference to another thread and a different topic.

 

[APACHERAT]

It's the fourteenth amendment in our constitution, I don't claim any kind of magical event I only know what is the law. If you don't like it then go lobby against it in Washington.

Many Constitutional scholars say the Fourteenth Amendment is unconstitutional.

If the Fourteenth Amendment is constitutional or not, it is the most misinterpreted part of the Constitution.

The authors who wrote the Fourteenth Amendment in their notes and debates on the floor of Congress said they used Vattel's "The Law of Nations" when composing the Fourteenth Amendment. >"Son follows the condition of his father."<

Why do you suppose that Native Americas weren't covered under the Fourteenth Amendment and weren't considered to be U.S. citizens until 1924 ?

Under the intent of the Fourteenth Amendment, children of illegal aliens who are born on U.S. soil are not U.S. citizens.

 

[americanwoman]

Many Constitutional scholars say the Fourteenth Amendment is unconstitutional.

If the Fourteenth Amendment is constitutional or not, it is the most misinterpreted part of the Constitution.

The authors who wrote the Fourteenth Amendment in their notes and debates on the floor of Congress said they used Vattel's "The Law of Nations" when composing the Fourteenth Amendment. >"Son follows the condition of his father."<

Why do you suppose that Native Americas weren't covered under the Fourteenth Amendment and weren't considered to be U.S. citizens until 1924 ?

Under the intent of the Fourteenth Amendment, children of illegal aliens who are born on U.S. soil are not U.S. citizens.

Regardless, currently as it's upheld children born in the US are granted citizenship and that makes them citizens.