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What are you talking about? Just because I didn't put up a plan means that I'm being dishonest? I will deal with things my way and just because I do that does not mean I'm being dishonest.
BS!
Eliminate the ER mandate.
Hell you could greatly reduce cost by limiting the function ER now serves.
That is one way to take care of it.
Sure lets just eliminate people from the discussion because they earned something right?
Ridiculous.
It's sad that the government providing health-care to everyone is the bad guy, and not the guy putting the extra cost onto the people, and the workers.
Though this is an argument for a single payer system as well though.
You know, even Reagan thought leaving people to die in the streets was wrong. I guess you don't have a problem with denying people life saving treatment and thus leaving them to die in the streets. People think our civilization has moved beyond the barbaric nation of the caveman. Some people have perhaps. Others, clearly have not.
Thanks for earning your reputation that you are totally okay with letting people die in the streets.
And that refutes my point how? Saying that no one else can get Socialized medicine while you are on it is rather hypocritical.
In what universe do you believe Obama or the government in general gives a rats ass about you?
We're only talking about the same Obama that sat back and watched our ambassador in Benghazi get dragged through the streets and murdered while he said "meh."
How was anything you posted even relevant to what you quoted?
Or are you simply trying to get a rise out of someone smarter than you?
Dance, dance, dance. :doh
You held out that they were two different things. As shown, they are not.
You purposely used derogatory slang and then denied it meant what it did.
"There's a real difference between venture capitalism and vulture capitalism. Venture capitalism, we like. Vulture capitalism, no. And the fact of the matter is that he's going to have to face up to this at some time or another, and South Carolina is as good a place to draw that line in the sand as any because those people in Gaffney, S.C., understand what happened to that photo album company. The folks in Georgetown, S.C., understand the jobs that were lost and that Bain Capital took $20 million and $65 million respectively from each of those deals and walked away from it. That's not what we're looking for in a president of the United States. We're looking for someone who knows how to build jobs, create jobs, and that's what I've done in the state of Texas. So, there's no use trying to paper this over. That is a problem for Mitt, and he's going to have to face it."
If you use that as a justification for government action then there is no limit to government power. A supposedly 'benevolent despotism' is still despotism. In a free society, the responsibility for ones survival lies with the individual. Those who wish to help 'people dying in the streets' are free to do so. What they are not free to do is compel me to help that person.You know, even Reagan thought leaving people to die in the streets was wrong. I guess you don't have a problem with denying people life saving treatment and thus leaving them to die in the streets. People think our civilization has moved beyond the barbaric nation of the caveman. Some people have perhaps. Others, clearly have not.
Thanks for earning your reputation that you are totally okay with letting people die in the streets.
For a minute there I thought Dick Clark was having you review records on BANDSTAND.
YOur problem seems to be with the sources that I used which clearly demonstrate that a VULTURE CAPITALIST is a far different thing that a VENTURE CAPITALIST. Not only did Wikpedia recognize this, but no less than Newt Gingrich recognized this and gave you reasons why the distinctions made a difference.
Gingrich Attacks "Vulture Capitalist" Romney - YouTube
Governor Rick Perry of Texas also did the same.
Perry: Venture Capitalism Is Good, Vulture Capitalism Is Bad | RealClearPolitics
You seem very unwilling to accept changes in the language. That is your right. But others, including all those people named above and many many more have moved beyond being stuck in the past.
Perhaps this will help you see the difference
When Mitt Romney Came To Town
it was produced by conservatives very much in favor of capitalism and very much against the vulture tactics of Romney and others.
If you do not like what conservatives have to say, perhaps you can stop attacking me for a moment and read what a liberal Nobel prize winning economist has to say about vulture capitalism?
» vulture capitalism CivilTongue
http://www.merge-left.org/2012/06/03/paul-krugmans-austerity-debate-on-bbc/
Or perhaps John Nichols writing in the Nation will offer you a different perspective away from that of the conservative politician?
Romney Still Reaps Huge Profits From Bain's Vulture Capitalism | The Nation
Allowed myself to see? I've spent 7 years with Tricare now. Unless all your ailments can be magically cured by Motrin, government medicine sucks.
There should be as many as is necessary to fill demand at the price people are willing to pay. Command and Control economies - as you are suggesting we engage in - rarely have beneficial results for those unfortunate enough to live under them.
Oh looky here, we have another one that like putting words in another's mouth.You know, even Reagan thought leaving people to die in the streets was wrong. I guess you don't have a problem with denying people life saving treatment and thus leaving them to die in the streets. People think our civilization has moved beyond the barbaric nation of the caveman. Some people have perhaps. Others, clearly have not.
Thanks for earning your reputation that you are totally okay with letting people die in the streets.
No matter how you want to try and paint it, a contractual obligation for services rendered, which is what Tri-care is, is Capitalistic, and not Socialized Medicine.And that refutes my point how? Saying that no one else can get Socialized medicine while you are on it is rather hypocritical.
What I articulated has absolutely everything to do with your assertions made.
You label others barbaric for not supporting socialized healthcare as if somehow the architects of this plan actually care about you (or anyone else). I offered a prime example of one of these architects not giving a rats ass about a fellow US citizen and ambassador yet it goes right over your head?
There is not one person in our state or federal government that gives a rats ass about you or you're healthcare.
If you were so damn smart you would realize this.
In zee teeth. No free lunch boxes.
Parasite Nation comes with costs... fewer jobs... hidden taxes... everywhere.
But it's freeeeeeeeeee! Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Wrong numb nuts. It's Aints free.
So please continue dancing. It is fun to watch.
No, because you never discuss the status quo. Or offer a real alternative. You just bitch and offer nothing in return.
Oh looky here, we have another one that like putting words in another's mouth.
Words which were not said.
Go figure, huh!
Nice. Access to testing and healthcare is "extravagance".
Americans also have lower cancer mortality rates than Canadians, better access to preventative care than Canadians, spend less time waiting to see a specialist than Canadians, and are more satisfied with the care they receive than Canadians. At what point does this become extravagance?
Is that what you think you are doing? :doh:lamo:dohGlad to see you recognize that I am dancing circles around you.
Go figure!He does that regularly and if you continue to talk to him he will do it more.
What a ridiculous question.I've asked this question before on this forum, and on others as well, and never once got a positive answer. I've had several say "no", and some "No (bleep!)ing way", but no yes or even maybe:
Some of the members of this forum live in Canada and other nations that have universal health care. Would any of you trade your health care system for that of the United States?
Anyone... anyone???
The story is about John Metz from Florida. He independently owns and operates 40 restaurants. He is cutting employees. He is adding on the tax. This isn't Denny's doings.
What makes you think you have a right to dictate what those profits are an by what logic do you assert an EMPLOYER must provide healthcare for employees?
So your belief is that employers are responsible to provide for their employees healthcare. Right? All employers? And what of their families?By the right of a democratic nation that also requires
min wage
40hr work week
over time
no child labor
Social security
Workers Comp.
etc etc etc
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