Democrats want ICE/CBP agents to "show their faces" during operations were they arrest illegals. Well why?

[MamboDervish]

You don’t think so? What are the odds that out of the millions of people in and around NYC the person the illegals target and shoot just happens to be a CBP agent?

Roughly the same odds of a CPB agent just happening to intervene in the middle of a crime that he was witnessing. In fact, exactly the same odds.

 

[bomberfox]

I mean trumpists demand antifascists show their faces, alls fair in love and war.

 

[AZRWinger]

Then don't take the job. I'm more concerned with the fact that if someone hops out of an unmarked van with no sort of identification provided and masked could either be a kidnapper or a federal agent.

What "fact" of kidnappers posing as ICE agents? It's a hypothetical used to make it easier to dox agents

Here is an example of someone faking an ICE kidnapping. A real life concern.

Mexican woman accused of staging ICE ‘kidnapping’ for money

Justice Department officials said Thursday they charged a Mexican woman with concocting a fake story about being kidnapped by federal immigration agents so she could bilk the public for donations.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[iliveonramen]

What "fact" of kidnappers posing as ICE agents? It's a hypothetical used to make it easier to dox agents

Here is an example of someone faking an ICE kidnapping. A real life concern.

Mexican woman accused of staging ICE ‘kidnapping’ for money

Justice Department officials said Thursday they charged a Mexican woman with concocting a fake story about being kidnapped by federal immigration agents so she could bilk the public for donations.

www.washingtontimes.com

I mean, not too hard to find of it actually happening?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

US sees spate of arrests of civilians impersonating Ice officers

Experts say trend of agents detaining people while masking and wearing plainclothes increases risk

www.theguardian.com

Men Are Impersonating ICE to Attack Immigrant Women. MAGA Emboldened Them.

Men Are Impersonating Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agents to Attack Immigrant Women. President Trump and MAGA Emboldened Them.

msmagazine.com

Also, not even sure your point of a lady faking an ICE kidnapping. That's a "real life concern" for who? It's only believable in this specific environment where the President ships people to El Salvador prisons without any sort of legal proceeding.

Maybe, just maybe, Trump and Miller's actions are making ICE agents less safe. *mind blown*

 

[ElChupacabra]

You don’t think so?

Nope, and mainly because the cited article states this was a botched robbery.

What are the odds that out of the millions of people in and around NYC the person the illegals target and shoot just happens to be a CBP agent?

CBP agents are also out in the world and exposed to all of the same risks all of us are, and sometimes things that happen to them aren't due to them being CBP agents.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Then don't take the job. I'm more concerned with the fact that if someone hops out of an unmarked van with no sort of identification provided and masked could either be a kidnapper or a federal agent.

In that scenario shooting the masked
man jumping out of the car and not showing identification would be self dedense

 

[Tangmo]

The Joint Chiefs are prevailing at the Pentagon in pulling California federalized Army National Guard and active duty Marines out of Los Angeles because ICE in their masks and their masked agents from other federal agencies have made a total hash of it. The Joint Chiefs led by the Air Force Gen. Dan "Razn" Caine knew they had to give the masked ICE and other feds time to do their inevitable and predictable, which would be to muck up the works.

Gen. Caine and the JCS can say now and accurately that morale across the military is being negatively impacted by the masked bungling incompetence and masked cruelty of ICE and the rest of the masked feds in LA, namely FBI, ATF&E, DEA, US Marshals and Homeland Security Investigators who have been put to flatfoot arrest duties.

First and two weeks ago it was 200 CA NG Infantry Soldiers specially trained for front line firefighting defederalized and returned to the command of the governor who put 'em immediately into the fires.

Last week is was a 2000 strong brigade of CA NG Infantry defederalized and returned to the command of the governor. This week it was the battalion of 700 active duty Marines ordered back to their base outside LA. Next week, it may well be the remaining 2000 Army brigade of CA NG Military Police who with all other troops sent to LA have spent their time as onlookers in their camos and helmets in the hot sun watching people and vehicles go by and ICE agents being masked goons.

The masked Ice-Stapo have done themselves in as expected and predicted. Their galactically stupid and masked false arrest and illegal detainment of the Army Infantry veteran of Iraq George Retas -- the US citizen and 25 year old father of two -- gives Gen. Caine and the JCS the high profile case to pull the troops out forthwith. Retas has a GoFundMe account to hire a lawyer and sue the masked ass off the masked ICE asses.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Democrat politicians are howling about ICE and CBP officers keeping faces covered during operations to arrest illegals. The purpose is to protect the officers and their families from reprisals of criminal immigrants. As we just saw where and officer and companion were shot. So tell me this isn't a smart and needed tactic to protect officers.

Illegal migrant arrested in NYC shooting of off-duty CBP agent was free despite long rap sheet — and suspected in scooter robbery spree: sources

The arrest was far from Aybar-Berroa’s first brush with the US justice system — which, like Mora Nunez, has treated him with an arguably light touch.

nypost.com

Cops do not cover their faces. Making the ICE gestapo show their faces means they will be unable to hid when they break the law.

Honest law enforcement officials do not hide their faces.

 

[iliveonramen]

In that scenario shooting the masked
man jumping out of the car and not showing identification would be self dedense

Maybe, who knows in Trump's America. They would probably ruin your life trying to charge you for terrorism.

 

[Tangmo]

Being doxxed and murdered by the left - as has happened - is not part of the job description.

Federal judges getting MAGA pizzas delivered to their front door isn't part of the job.

Your OTT post is typical MAGA in this flailing police state of trying too hard to get away with it.

Indeed, since J6 MAGAs have won the Trophy for Hypocrisy every time.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Being doxxed and murdered by the left - as has happened - is not part of the job description.

This is an absolute lie.

The left has never done any such thing.

Turn the Faux off.

 

[Gaius46]

You don’t think so? What are the odds that out of the millions of people in and around NYC the person the illegals target and shoot just happens to be a CBP agent?

About the same as anyone else murdered in NYC or anyplace else.

 

[Spock]

FWIW, SWAT team members have told me they wear balaclavas for protection against flying debris during operations.
I agree that police in routine operations should not wear masks. The "retaliation" argument is bogus.
Should judges wear masks? How about emergency room doctors or medics? Should the employees at DMV wear masks?
All those occupations could plead "fear of retaliation". Self-defense is probably best among police officers who routinely have service weapons available. Crazy argument about ICE/CPB fears.

 

[dmpi]

If protestors can wear anything they want, ICE agents should do the same.

 

[MamboDervish]

If protestors can wear anything they want, ICE agents should do the same.

So you think they're equivalent? If ICE agents "should do the same", then protestors can play at being law enforcement, and deport ICE agents.

How does that sound to you?

 

[NolanVoyd]

If protestors can wear anything they want, ICE agents should do the same.

Srupid arguement. Protesters can where wgatever they want because they are private citizens.

ICE agents are professionals, federal law enforcement agents.

Surely you understand the difference.

 

[dmpi]

So you think they're equivalent? If ICE agents "should do the same", then protestors can play at being law enforcement, and deport ICE agents.

How does that sound to you?

Law enforcement wears a uniform as a show of authority. But they don't have to. They can choose to work undercover or incognito.

 

[hecatmoggie]

rioters/protestors/ICE .... no masks

deal ?

 

[MamboDervish]

Law enforcement wears a uniform as a show of authority. But they don't have to. They can choose to work undercover or incognito.

Especially if they are committing crimes and don't wish to get caught. Nevertheless, undercover agents don't wear masks.

 

[Manc Skipper]

What "fact" of kidnappers posing as ICE agents? It's a hypothetical used to make it easier to dox agents

Here is an example of someone faking an ICE kidnapping. A real life concern.

Mexican woman accused of staging ICE ‘kidnapping’ for money

Justice Department officials said Thursday they charged a Mexican woman with concocting a fake story about being kidnapped by federal immigration agents so she could bilk the public for donations.

www.washingtontimes.com

They're out there kidnapping brown people to make their quotas. All other law enforcement don't fear doxxing. No-one is entitled to personal privacy in public spaces.

 

[BirdinHand]

rioters/protestors/ICE .... no masks

deal ?

Nope.

People are free to wear whatever they’d like because they are not law enforcement.

ICE agents are law enforcement and should be held to a standard of professionalism.

Wear a uniform, wear a badge, wear your name and show your face and have ID with such.

This masked and unidentified Gestapo schtick is bullshit.

 

[What if...?]

They look like ****ing kidnappers is why. Does ICE *want* people fighting back and potentially killing agents? The public to join in defense of a third party who appears to be being kidnapped?

A bunch of these videos... man, if some people screeched up in a van and hopped out looking like that, I'd defend myself like my life was under imminent threat.

Of course authorities doing this kind of thing should be uniformed. They're not infiltrating some mafia. They're arresting people in public. They should be fully uniformed and recognizable. If they're ashamed of what they're doing, then they should probably just not do it.

Of course, we know why MAGA wants them disguised: to maximize the terroristic effect on brown people, whether they are citizens or not.





Oh man, where have you been? I've missed these daily World's Dumbest Whaddabout attempts.

I’m not sure if he’s concerned about the armbands or that they’re apparently naked…

 

[mrjurrs]

Being doxxed and murdered by the left - as has happened - is not part of the job description.

You don't have to accept the risks. You do need to act constitutionally. It's their choice.

If you think this is a legitimate problem, how about some figures?

 

[What if...?]

rioters/protestors/ICE .... no masks

deal ?

No.

I don’t want my tax money paying masked cops.

The protesters cost me nothing.

 

[Gaius46]

If protestors can wear anything they want, ICE agents should do the same.

And what happens when an unidentified ICE jumps
someone who doesn't know he's a cop and puts a couple bullets in him in self defense.

Having unidentifiable cops grabbing people on the streets is dangerous to everyone including the cops.