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Democrats keep the Senate

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1) Based on the assumption that the Republicans were destined for a convincing win over the Democrats, Trump scheduled to make his "big announcement" this Tuesday - presumably as the Republican's uncontested presidential candidate for 2024!

2) Given the past historical trends for the 21 Interim Elections held from 1934 to 2018, Republican optimism about the predicted outcome in 2022 might have been justified - they failed to take into account, however that the weight of Trump's "political baggage" had finally caught up with them!

3) The political Party with a President in the White House had added to their seat total just 3X in the House (1934, 1998, 2002) and 5X in the Senate (1934, 1962, 1982, 2002, 2018) - it had occurred in both Houses of Congress just 2X (1934, 2002) and that was in response to the Great Depression and 9/11!

4) Fast forward to 2024, the defeat of many of election-denying, celebrity candidates endorsed by Trump, has been largely attributed to the lack of proper "vetting" - campaigns "blindsided" by "unwelcomed surprises" stemming from past, undisclosed "indiscretions" (ie Hershel Walker)!

5) What does it say about the current state of conservatives politics in America when Donald J Trump chose not to endorse the most prominent GOP politician in his own state - after the 2022 Interim Election, he public threatened to reveal "things that won't be very flattering" about the only high-profile Republican candidate who actually exceeded expectations?

Seats in Congress Gained/Lost by the President's Party in Mid-Term Elections | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu www.presidency.ucsb.edu

floridapolitics.com

Donald Trump offers last-minute endorsement of Ron DeSantis re-election

Trump's 'Ron DeSanctimonious' diss was not repeated in Florida.
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1) Based on the assumption that the Republicans were destined for a convincing win over the Democrats, Trump was scheduled to make his big announcement this Tuesday!

2) Given the past historical trends for the 21 Interim Elections held from 1934 to 2019, Republican optimism may have been justified!

3) The political Party with a President in the White House had added to their seat total just 3X in the House (1934, 1998, 2002) and 5X in the Senate (1934, 1962, 1982, 2002, 2018) - it had occurred in both Houses of Congress just 2X (1934, 2002) and that was in response to the Great Depression and 9/11!

4) Fast forward to 2024, the defeat of many of election-denying, celebrity candidates endorsed by Trump, has been largely attributed to the lack of proper "vetting" - campaigns "blindsided" by "unwelcomed surprises" stemming from past, undisclosed "indiscretions" (ie Hershel Walker)!

5) What does it say about the current state of conservatives politics in America when Donald J Trump chose not to endorse the most prominent GOP politician in his own state - after the 2022 Interim Election, he public threatened to reveal "things that won't be very flattering" about the only high-profile Republican candidate who actually exceeded expectations?

Seats in Congress Gained/Lost by the President's Party in Mid-Term Elections | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu www.presidency.ucsb.edu

floridapolitics.com

Donald Trump offers last-minute endorsement of Ron DeSantis re-election

Trump's 'Ron DeSanctimonious' diss was not repeated in Florida.
floridapolitics.com floridapolitics.com
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DeSantis must have some skeletons huh? You know all is fair in Trump world.
 
The voting age will be raised to half the president's age plus 7. Biden will be 80 this month so the new voting age will be 47.
 
What do you know, last minute ballots continue the statistically impossible Trend of every single close election going democrat after slow walked counting
 
EMNofSeattle said:
What do you know, last minute ballots continue the statistically impossible Trend of every single close election going democrat after slow walked counting
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Working people prefer not to vote on a Tuesday. It's not "statistically impossible" at all.
 
Ug make hammer said:
Working people prefer not to vote on a Tuesday. It's not "statistically impossible" at all.
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Yes. Whenever it’s a close election in a blueish state where the election counting is done slowly it always becomes democratic ballots on the last 5-10 percent. Every time.

Going back to early 2000s. That strains credulity. It really doesn’t matter though because democrats openly rig elections, they don’t care as long as they get the result
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yes. Whenever it’s a close election in a blueish state where the election counting is done slowly it always becomes democratic ballots on the last 5-10 percent. Every time.

Going back to early 2000s. That strains credulity. It really doesn’t matter though because democrats openly rig elections, they don’t care as long as they get the result
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If they "openly" rigged elections, that should be very easy to prove in court.

Which I expect Republicans will try to do. Again. And fail. Again.

Gut feelings don't impress judges.
 
Ug make hammer said:
If they "openly" rigged elections, that should be very easy to prove in court.
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It is in fact easy to prove. It’s just the power structure agrees with the results and so they won’t do anything about it.
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Which I expect Republicans will try to do. Again. And fail. Again.
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Yeah, you can’t really prove that piles of mail ballots handled and delivered by Democratic Party operatives are really authentic or not. This is why sane countries have criminalized such practices
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Gut feelings don't impress judges.
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Especially ones who know they will lose their career if they don’t upheld democrat party results. In any event though it doesn’t matter because once ballots are fed into the system it is impossible to prove they were genuine or not. So of course states like Arizona and Washington and Nevada just purposefully slow count ballots and either permit or make no effort to stop ballot harvesting by party operatives.

And sure enough when it gets to the last ten percent of ballots they always have exactly the number of ballots they need to throw close elections. Every time.

There is zero cases in history of a democrat leading in vote counts over days of counting only to be thrown in second place a week after Election Day by the most convenient margin. Never happens.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yes. Whenever it’s a close election in a blueish state where the election counting is done slowly it always becomes democratic ballots on the last 5-10 percent. Every time.

Going back to early 2000s. That strains credulity. It really doesn’t matter though because democrats openly rig elections, they don’t care as long as they get the result
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They certainly don't care that you're deep in the throes of denial.
 
Loulit01 said:
They certainly don't care that you're deep in the throes of denial.
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Denial of what? That every time elections supervised by democrats involve days of counting they always flip blue when close? Do you deny this? You have any counter examples?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Denial of what? That every time elections supervised by democrats involve days of counting they always flip blue when close? Do you deny this? You have any counter examples?
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You haven't given any examples. You just run your mouth.
 
Bullseye said:
You do understand the VP doesn't stand in the hall awaiting to cast the deciding vote, right? At 51-49, votes can go faster just by roll call. And yes they did quite a bit of damage at 50-50. :cool:
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You also must understand that in our flawed system, nothing arrives on the Senate floor for a vote that hasn’t been laid out and and agreed to before any vote takes place. The VP is there when needed…….not they there is some big panic and they put out an APB for her….
 
Hopefully circumstances are such that Biden can nominate a SCOTUS justice or two and make the court less RWNJ
 
tacomancer said:
Hopefully circumstances are such that Biden can nominate a SCOTUS justice or two and make the court less RWNJ
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Which conservative justice is most vulnerable, Thomas?

That only gets to 5-4.
 
Rexedgar said:
You also must understand that in our flawed system, nothing arrives on the Senate floor for a vote that hasn’t been laid out and and agreed to before any vote takes place. The VP is there when needed…….not they there is some big panic and they put out an APB for her….
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I think it's understandable that the leader wants to avoid the embarassment of calling a vote and then losing.

And it does happen sometimes. Remember the final vote on Repeal and Replace Obamacare, when McCain wouldn't tell McConnell how he was going to vote. Apparently Pence was already in the building, expecting to cast the deciding vote. I doubt he was in a hallway though (people might see him.)
 
dncc said:
You don't need Mancin or Sinema (you need one or the other currently) to pass things. Just one difference.
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The Senate is 50/50 at the moment, so they need both Sinema and Manchin to pass anything.

With 51 (next Congress, if Warnock survives the runoff) they would need one-or-the-other.
 
Donny, if you're reading this, talk to Carlos Ghosn and ask how he managed to fit in that suitcase while being smuggled out of Japan to evade prosecution.

And, you might want a bigger suitcase.
 
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