Democrats keep the Senate

[dairyair]

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/election-2022-nevada-democrats/2022/11/12/id/1096111/

Democratic U.S. Senator Catherine Cortez Masto has won re-election in Nevada, Newsmax projected on Saturday in a victory that guarantees the Senate will be controlled by Democrats in 2023.

Cortez Masto defeated Republican challenger Adam Laxalt, a former state attorney general who was endorsed by former President Donald Trump.

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I guess if Newmaxx is calling it, it must be true. Will there be a recount?

 

[Bullseye]

Yes, I do understand that. It is an incredible luxury. But you said the race is now "MORE" important. "Still important" I can buy, but "more important", which is your contention, seems seems. You did not make your case with the above. Again, no one else is saying this, so you need to make the case.

IF you understand the difference between a 50-50 and 51-49 split you understand my point. If not, there's nothing more I can say.

 

[Linc]

I don't think it helps the Georgia race, because Dems don't HAVE to win that now. But Warnock will be fine anyway, due to the 8.5% split ticket compared to Governor Kemp. Walker won't have those coat-tails next month.

With 23 Senators up in 2024 compared to ten for the R’s, this race now gives DEMs a very outside chance of holding the Senate in 2024.

 

[Chase Morgan]

Fitting end to a brutal week for pathetic little maga-ts

It's like a nightmare, isn't it?

Juss keeps gettin' worse and worse...

 

[Linc]

Can we cajole a few Republicans for reconciliation.

 

[Cardinal]

Judges is a big thing.

The biggest thing, really.

And if Uncle Clarence and one or two of his partners in crime will just spontaneously combust we can save the nation from the so called supreme court.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Has it been called ?

I know they where waiting on vote counting from Clark County, a huge batch. Las Vegas leans Dem.

Watching Texas vs TCU. ABC just called it in an unplanned newsbreak.

 

[The Stars Tremble]

With 23 Senators up in 2024 compared to ten for the R’s, this race now gives DEMs a very outside chance of holding the Senate in 2024.

Those are bad numbers for Dems. They have incumbents in AZ, NV, MI, OH and WV. And the only weakness on the Republican side is TX.

The only way they keep the Senate is if Warnock wins the runoff now, a Dem wins the Presidency, Dems somehow hold the first three (above) and they take TX. Ohio is a long shot and WV is impossible.

Though special elections are always possible, the odds of those happening go equally both ways.

 

[upsideguy]

Popular opinion is that Republicans in the House will be nothing but a pain in the ass. But that's Trump thinking. They might actually be prepared to work with Democrats on the less divisive issues (like infrastructure, Ukraine aid or trade with China.) I doubt this would be so if they'd taken the Senate as well.

They have a real problem. Who in the Republican party is going to manage a caucus with a 2 vote margin? Pelosi did a fine job with a 5 vote margin, but she is very good at what she does and the Dems, while they have some people that wander off the reservation, they don't have the level of wack-a-doos and attention whores that the Cons have. They have to placate the fringe of that party. It drove Boehner and Ryan out of politics, with bigger majority. Then consider the speaker over indulges the fringe turning the House into Romper Room, then there is a risk that a middle of the roader or two could defect and cross the aisle. What a mess that Republican speaker has ahead of him.

Those are bad numbers for Dems. They have incumbents in AZ, NV, MI, OH and WV. And the only weakness on the Republican side is TX.

The only way they keep the Senate is if Warnock wins the runoff now, a Dem wins the Presidency, Dems somehow hold the first three (above) and they take TX. Ohio is a long shot and WV is impossible.

Though special elections are always possible, the odds of those happening go equally both ways.

Joe Manchin has won in West Virginia since 2010. What makes you think it is impossible for him to win in 2026?

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Has it been called?

I know they where waiting on vote counting from Clark County, a huge batch. Las Vegas leans Dem.

All the votes she needed to win were in Clark County because it is both the most populous and most liberal county in Nevada.

CCM also got more votes from Washoe County, which is not liberal but always blue on TV big board maps.

 

[The Stars Tremble]

Can we cajole a few Republicans for reconciliation.

Or should "we" give up on that in advance, and ram through everything possible during the lame duck session?

For 2024 I think the bipartisan route is best. The Republican majority in the House will be razor thin.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Popular opinion is that Republicans in the House will be nothing but a pain in the ass. But that's Trump thinking. They might actually be prepared to work with Democrats on the less divisive issues (like infrastructure, Ukraine aid or trade with China.) I doubt this would be so if they'd taken the Senate as well.

Yeah... Don't hold yer breath.

It would be nice, yes but...

 

[Integrityrespec]

Popular opinion is that Republicans in the House will be nothing but a pain in the ass. But that's Trump thinking. They might actually be prepared to work with Democrats on the less divisive issues (like infrastructure, Ukraine aid or trade with China.) I doubt this would be so if they'd taken the Senate as well.

Don't expect to see them wanting to spend more money. Biden has already tossed out far too much. Over 5 trillion in new spending since he came into office.

 

[upsideguy]

IF you understand the difference between a 50-50 and 51-49 split you understand my point. If not, there's nothing more I can say.

You offer up a really unique take on something, then can not explain it. We are not talking about a 50-50 versus 51-49 split. You suggested the Georgia race is even more important NOW that its 50-50, defending it from going 51-49, than it was when control of the Senate was at stake. Sorry, that is just nonsensical, and you can't explain why its not.

Keep your day job, you have no future as a political commentator.

 

[Linc]

Those are bad numbers for Dems. They have incumbents in AZ, NV, MI, OH and WV. And the only weakness on the Republican side is TX.

The only way they keep the Senate is if Warnock wins the runoff now, a Dem wins the Presidency, Dems somehow hold the first three (above) and they take TX. Ohio is a long shot and WV is impossible.

Though special elections are always possible, the odds of those happening go equally both ways.

At first, I thought it would be 10-0 R’s.
Then I noticed Hawley and Scott of FL.
Scott led the GOP Senate re-election this year.

 

[Linc]

Don't expect to see them wanting to spend more money. Biden has already tossed out far too much. Over 5 trillion in new spending since he came into office.

This house will cut Ukraine off at its knees.

 

[Bullseye]

You offer up a really unique take on something, then can not explain it. We are not talking about a 50-50 versus 51-49 split. You suggested the Georgia race is even more important NOW that its 50-50, defending it from going 51-49, than it was when control of the Senate was at stake. Sorry, that is just nonsensical, and you can't explain why its not.

Keep your day job, you have no future as a political commentator.

You have a brilliant future as a progressive. - that's not a compliment.

 

[Integrityrespec]

They have a real problem. Who in the Republican party is going to manage a caucus with a 2 vote margin? Pelosi did a fine job with a 5 vote margin, but she is very good at what she does and the Dems, while they have some people that wander off the reservation, they don't have the level of wack-a-doos and attention whores that the Cons have. They have to placate the fringe of that party. It drove Boehner and Ryan out of politics, with bigger majority. Then consider the speaker over indulges the fringe turning the House into Romper Room, then there is a risk that a middle of the roader or two could defect and cross the aisle. What a mess that Republican speaker has ahead of him.


Joe Manchin has won in West Virginia since 2010. What makes you think it is impossible for him to win in 2026?

What would any republican vote with the dems? 75% of the nation is saying the democrats have us going in the wrong direction, and that's largely on too much spending, the war on oil, open borders, crime. Republicans aren't going to vote with democrats on any of that.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Or should "we" give up on that in advance, and ram through everything possible during the lame duck session?

For 2024 I think the bipartisan route is best. The Republican majority in the House will be razor thin.

Nobody knows yet if Republicans will get the HOR back. CNN says 204 Democrats have won their elections. Republicans still have 211 seats so far.

Even if Republicans hold onto their lead, keeping the Senate is a huge win for Democrats tonight.

 

[Risky Thicket]

If - when - Trump announces his candidacy for 2024 next week it will hurt Herschel more than help him.

Trump is like a growing hemorrhoid in the butt of the former Republican Party.

The GQP has taken over the former GOP and Trump is the GQP.

It is evident that people are sick and tired of Trump and his Trumpublicans. No way Herschel will benefit from Trump in the run off.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Republicans announce they want to raise the voting age to 82.

 

[NolanVoyd]

What would any republican vote with the dems? 75% of the nation is saying the democrats have us going in the wrong direction, and that's largely on too much spending, the war on oil, open borders, crime. Republicans aren't going to vote with democrats on any of that.

The lies need to stop.

The borders are not open for example.

 

[Lycanthrope]

How much money will the GOP pour into a Senate run off race supporting a shitty candate in a race that no longer matters nearly as much as it used to?

 

[The Stars Tremble]

You offer up a really unique take on something, then can not explain it. We are not talking about a 50-50 versus 51-49 split. You suggested the Georgia race is even more important NOW that its 50-50, defending it from going 51-49, than it was when control of the Senate was at stake. Sorry, that is just nonsensical, and you can't explain why its not.

Keep your day job, you have no future as a political commentator.

Every extra Senator that Dems can get now, helps with the 2024 election which is bad for Dems in the Senate.

Dem incumbents:
AZ
CA
CT
DE
NY
NM
NJ
NV
MT
MN
MI
MA
MD
HI
OH
PA
RI
VA
WA
WV
WI
(ME)
(VT)

Just the sheer number of those is bad. Funding will be spread thin.

Rep incumbents:
MS
MT
NE
NE (special)
ND
TN
TX
UT
WY
IN
FL

When Texas and Florida are your best chance, things are tough.

 

[EnigmaO01]

There are many political pundits laying low in the wake of this.

And Pollsters!