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Democrats grapple with impeachment timing as evidence piles up

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https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/16/impeachment-democrats-2020-congress-048618

Democrats are in an impeachment bind.

For the first time, they’re receiving a gusher of evidence to support charges that President Donald Trump abused his power for political and personal gain, pressuring Ukraine’s fledgling government to investigate his political rival Joe Biden.

But as more witnesses come forward to spill more secrets, the more Democrats are nervously eyeing the dwindling congressional calendar and wondering: When should we be satisfied with what we have and bring articles of impeachment to the floor?

“There are two competing pressures here,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), a member of the Oversight Committee, one of three panels leading the impeachment process. “One is that the president is a one-man crime wave who has generated virtually limitless impeachable offenses and misconduct. On the other hand, we need to develop a process that will close within a period of time that makes sense for the legislative calendar.”

But Raskin said lawmakers are not yet discussing how to make that determination.

“We’re just not there yet,” he said. “We really are still in the throes of the fact investigation.”

Some Democrats say the investigation should continue until the evidence is so overwhelming it pries loose a few Republican votes, delivering a symbolic victory as Democrats hold out hope that impeachment isn't a purely party-line issue. Others believe Democrats should exhaust the list of willing witnesses before drafting formal articles.

And still others say the House already has enough evidence to move forward with impeachment immediately — from Trump's own admission that he wants Ukraine and China to investigate Biden, to the summary of his phone call with Ukraine's president to the text messages of senior ambassadors worried that Trump was withholding military aid and a White House visit to bend Ukraine's leaders to his will.

“What I think you have in the public domain already is more than sufficient for an article of impeachment," said Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.), an Oversight Committee member.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her top allies say they’re still firmly in fact-finding mode and have promised a deliberate approach to the House’s Ukraine investigation with no ironclad time limit. Senior Democrats say they’re eyeing the end of the year as an unofficial outer limit for the House to craft and pass articles of impeachment, but the unpredictable investigation has produced so many leads it's hard to solidify a deadline.

Best quote of the day "one man crime wave"
 
Pelosi won't alliw an impeachment vote. She doesn't want her kid to get subpoenaed, along with Biden's kid, Kerry's step-kid and Romney's kid.

Subpoena them all, and when Trump is kicked out, go after the rest.
 
Bring the vote and kiss control of the House in 14 months Goodbye.
 
Yet 50 forensic FBI officials, dozens of CIA officials, 19 super lawyers, 2500 witnesses, Pelosi, Nadler, and Schiff can't even get a simple Impeachment Inquiry vote or a single criminal recommendation from the DOJ or the FBI.

Sounds fake to me

Impeachment need not involve a crime
 
Pelosi won't alliw an impeachment vote. She doesn't want her kid to get subpoenaed, along with Biden's kid, Kerry's step-kid and Romney's kid.
You are assuming an impeachment inquiry vote will happen and that it would allow minority subpoena power.

That is not what the article is about.
 
So...when will House Dems grapple with voting on the USMCA? Still waiting on those useless ****ers to vote on it.
 
So call the vote already. Lets have the debate.

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We are in the inquiry phase. Subpoenas are being issued. Evidence is being gathered
 
Impeachment need not involve a crime

Yeah, we know. Since no crime can be exposed, all you have to do is have some Democrats with hurt feewings. And they still can't get it done.

But we do love the show
 
Yeah, we know. Since no crime can be exposed, all you have to do is have some Democrats with hurt feewings. And they still can't get it done.

But we do love the show

I love the show too. I want this inquiry to drag out till at least late next summer.


Its great
 
Yep, and even confession to a felony by the POTUS need not result in removal from office. Isn't impeachment politics wonderful?

It's great. I love trump being hung out to dry
 
The question is: Just how dirty do you think you are going to have to get Trump to get America to vote socialist and bankrupt themselves and the country.

We'll just get rid of him. Plenty of dirt to air on trump
 
We'll just get rid of him. Plenty of dirt to air on trump


“There are two competing pressures here,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), a member of the Oversight Committee, one of three panels leading the impeachment process. “One is that the president is a one-man crime wave who has generated virtually limitless impeachable offenses and misconduct. On the other hand, we need to develop a process that will close within a period of time that makes sense for the legislative calendar.”
 
“There are two competing pressures here,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), a member of the Oversight Committee, one of three panels leading the impeachment process. “One is that the president is a one-man crime wave who has generated virtually limitless impeachable offenses and misconduct. On the other hand, we need to develop a process that will close within a period of time that makes sense for the legislative calendar.”

So essentially what they're saying is that the Trump administration is so inept and corrupt that they commit so many offenses, it's hard to document and investigate it all in a timely manner.
 
He doesn't mention the other issue...

When will the "Barr hammer" fall?

The article goes into it. Mitch is asking that they are able to vote in the Senate by Christmas.
 
So essentially what they're saying is that the Trump administration is so inept and corrupt that they commit so many offenses, it's hard to document and investigate it all in a timely manner.

Pretty much!
 
He doesn't mention the other issue...

When will the "Barr hammer" fall?

Oh the faster they can get it to Senate, the better off Trump is. You don't want to give the investigation enough time to root it all out. It may be too much for even Republicans to ignore/defend.
 
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