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Democrats Get Lowest Rating From Voters in 35 Years

The article is paywalled, therefor I cannot see the actual poll to trust all this or not.

Regardless, Stephen Smith was on This Week with George Stephanopoulos and this morning on the back of this poll being released. But he said something paramount about Democrats, they are "leaderless." I am paraphrasing here now, but he went on to say that no one can debate that Trump is the leader of the Republican Party and there is not the equivalent for the Democratic Party.

Because of, there is not much in unified message or even dealings with being in the minority in Congress. A few names make noise of course, but not central leadership. Speaks volumes and may explain, at least in part, why Democrats have a low rating.

So, I shuffle over to Gallup and I see as confirmed that Party Affiliation has slipped for both Republicans and Democrats and Democrats specifically were getting close to their 2012 low of 25% and Gallup suddenly stopped asking the question. Gallup looks to have reverted back to "leans" to avoid asking for real party affiliation. That should tell you something as Independents continue to dominate, who best I can tell are also down on both Republicans and Democrats.

There may be some merit to the poll, but I cannot be for sure.
 
noonereal said:
You should have a subscription to this and the NY Times at the least.

Where on earth do you get your news?
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Raw sources. Since outside of the occasional poll news outlets are not synthesizing news but rather distilling it from raw sources, I prefer to go to the source instead.
 
phoenix2020 said:
Raw sources. Since outside of the occasional poll news outlets are not synthesizing news but rather distilling it from raw sources, I prefer to go to the source instead.
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Do you know what journalism is and why it is so important? Any idea at all?
 
phoenix2020 said:
Raw sources. Since outside of the occasional poll news outlets are not synthesizing news but rather distilling it from raw sources, I prefer to go to the source instead.
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BTW, one of the stupidest posts this week.
 
Desert Storm said:
Here you go: https://archive.vn/zlUIq
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Thanks. I can’t explain it. If people want to FA with more MAGA, well, they’ll get to FO more I suppose. I agree with the general sentiment that Democrats haven’t posed a single identifiable voice in a social climate more amenable to “personalities” like Trump or Musk than policies.
 
OrphanSlug said:
The article is paywalled, therefor I cannot see the actual poll to trust all this or not.
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I mean, they're certainly not the only polling firm to have found this...

CNN Poll: Democratic Party’s favorability drops to a record low​

www.rollingstone.com

Congressional Dems' Approval Hits Record Low

Only 19 percent of respondents to a new Quinnipiac University poll approve of the way Democrats in Congress are doing their job.
www.rollingstone.com www.rollingstone.com

Democrats aren't focused on issues people care about. Been saying that on here for years. Now they have a leadership vacuum. This likely won't get much better until they find a face for the party with a vision people believe in.
 
noonereal said:
Do you know what journalism is and why it is so important? Any idea at all?
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Yes. And I’ll continue to support PBS and NPR with my dues and annual donations. If you are choosing to support WSJ over PBS and NPR, that is of course your choice to make.
 
phoenix2020 said:
Thanks. I can’t explain it. If people want to FA with more MAGA, well, they’ll get to FO more I suppose. I agree with the general sentiment that Democrats haven’t posed a single identifiable voice in a social climate more amenable to “personalities” like Trump or Musk than policies
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Its too early anyways. Midterms arent until November 2026
 
Part of the reason why the Democrats approval rating is now down at around 30% is that there are a few liberals and progressives who feel that the Democrats aren't doing enough to stand up to Trump.

I remember when Republicans were polling very badly during part of 2013. However, Republicans ended up doing well during the 2014 mid-term elections. I believe that the Democrats will take back the House during the 2026 mid-term elections.
 
OrphanSlug said:
The article is paywalled, therefor I cannot see the actual poll to trust all this or not.

Regardless, Stephen Smith was on This Week with George Stephanopoulos and this morning on the back of this poll being released. But he said something paramount about Democrats, they are "leaderless." I am paraphrasing here now, but he went on to say that no one can debate that Trump is the leader of the Republican Party and there is not the equivalent for the Democratic Party.

Because of, there is not much in unified message or even dealings with being in the minority in Congress. A few names make noise of course, but not central leadership. Speaks volumes and may explain, at least in part, why Democrats have a low rating.

So, I shuffle over to Gallup and I see as confirmed that Party Affiliation has slipped for both Republicans and Democrats and Democrats specifically were getting close to their 2012 low of 25% and Gallup suddenly stopped asking the question. Gallup looks to have reverted back to "leans" to avoid asking for real party affiliation. That should tell you something as Independents continue to dominate, who best I can tell are also down on both Republicans and Democrats.

There may be some merit to the poll, but I cannot be for sure.
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I think lots of Independents (even most) somewhat lean or even heavily lean one way or the other (this latter group to the point where they aren't independent at all). For various reasons, it's become quite a trend over the last decade or so, to register as an Independent. Thus, the number of registered Independents has soared.

We might guess if these registered Independents were down on both major parties, they'd sit out the election or vote third party. But then when it comes to election time (especially presidential years) voter turnout has been pretty high and voter enthusiasm strong. And we see low vote totals for third party candidates. Which just takes me back to my first sentence in this comment and also explains why Gallup might have reverted back to using "leans".

If you chat with an Independent or someone who sticks to the overused and thus pretty meaningless saying of "I'm a fiscal conservative but a social.....", it usually quickly becomes clear that they have very strong opinions about some of the core principles one or the other party represents. For example, they'll make casual comments about not being too fond of a policy, party, or leader but then make definitive and strongly worded comments about totally objecting to a different policy, party, or leader. Their "lean" quickly becomes quite apparent.
 
Desert Storm said:
Here you go: https://archive.vn/zlUIq
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Thank you for the article, it did include the source.

Looking over all this, it appears the majority of the nation does not like Trump, or Republicans, or Democrats but agreed that the "Total Unfavorable" for Democrats is the worst. 63% is a galactically poor result for Democrats even with all the things we have to talk about these days with MAGA Republicans. Even Musk and ICE have slightly better results and that speaks volumes (q 11d and q 11h.)

One thing that does stand out thou is the sample, very overweight for Republicans and Democrats at the typical expense of Independents (even with the "leans" designations.) Adding all the leans to Independents as well as "other and does not know" still underweights Independents when considering the true political pulse of the nation (q 7/8 and q 42.)

And that is big a problem when saying the poll is legitimate.

Poll Source:
 
They just cocked up an election which resulted in Donald Trump of all people being reelected to the highest office on the planet. I would expect their approval rating to be in the toilet. They have a lot of work to do to build a campaign to run on in the next two election cycles. Fortunately for their sake, they couldn't have asked for a weaker opponent or more ammunition use against him.

We'll see how they do with Republicans on a silver platter with apples in their mouths.
 
Desert Storm said:
Not going so well for Democrats

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No, it isn’t.

The Dems are being dopey and highly strained in the communication with the electorate. So match, their results from those efforts. Is less than effective.

That shouldn’t be read to mean that what the Pubs are doing is better for middle and working class U.S voters.

Their collective is marching us toward the edge of the economic cliff that is precisely what the greed of corporate America sees as desirable. Due to their explicitly short sighted, profits NOW!!! attitude. Even if in doing so they break the economic machinery in precisely the same way they did so in the up running to the Crash of 1929 and The Great Depression.

We are nothing if not complicit in it though. Humans love to repeat the same mistakes that have caused previous catastrophic events.
 
lwf said:
They just cocked up an election which resulted in Donald Trump of all people being reelected to the highest office on the planet. I would expect their approval rating to be in the toilet. They have a lot of work to do to build a campaign to run on in the next two election cycles. Fortunately for their sake, they couldn't have asked for a weaker opponent or more ammunition use against him.

We'll see how they do with Republicans on a silver platter with apples in their mouths.
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See my directly above. 🤷‍♂️
 
OrphanSlug said:
Thank you for the article, it did include the source.

Looking over all this, it appears the majority of the nation does not like Trump, or Republicans, or Democrats but agreed that the "Total Unfavorable" for Democrats is the worst. 63% is a galactically poor result for Democrats even with all the things we have to talk about these days with MAGA Republicans. Even Musk and ICE have slightly better results and that speaks volumes (q 11d and q 11h.)

One thing that does stand out thou is the sample, very overweight for Republicans and Democrats at the typical expense of Independents (even with the "leans" designations.) Adding all the leans to Independents as well as "other and does not know" still underweights Independents when considering the true political pulse of the nation (q 7/8 and q 42.)

And that is big a problem when saying the poll is legitimate.

Poll Source:
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Thanks for the raw source. I agree Independents are somewhat underweighted but it can’t be by more than a few percentage points.

@noonereal this is the point I was trying to make: it’s always best to go to the source or raw data, study it and form your own conclusions than what typically happens in journalism which is a late 20-something spending 30 minutes and/or AI tools to distill raw data into enough paragraphs to hit the article length target and a catchy headline that brings the clicks. Fifty years ago this was not possible. But in 2025 with the Internet? @OrphanSlug was able to quickly link to the gory details of the survey with no puff piece on top of it.
 
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