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Democrats don't understand what it means to be educated

weaver2 said:
My sister, with a PhD in Shakespearian literature from Cornell University married an Englishman studying the US presidency at Cornell. They married, went to England with their crispy new PhDs seeking college level teaching positions; she could not get a job because the English doubted she could convey the glories of English literature properly to English students. He could not get a job because the English considered the history of the US too short to fill an entire course. Eventually he got a job at Manchester University and she taught in a private girls school. Many visits with them over the years revealed the difference in attitude about the purpose of English and American educational educational systems. The English system's goal is to convey the long and glorious history and literature of the English and it is presented as the birthright of all Englishmen. The American educational system's goal was/is to present practical knowledge for living and contributing to a life in an entrepreneurial economy where money and position are the standards of success not knowledge of one's history and literature. The English treat education as something special offered to the public. American's treat education as essential to making a living. One is treated as a great privilege and a birthright; the other as a prerequisite to earning a living. The difference in focus and attitude is striking.
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I have been pondering your posting. I agree that the American educational system was, even in the past, and certainly is now aimed at conveying practical knowledge for living in this society. I think in the past there was also a sense that education was something special that was offered to the public, because much of the public could not afford to be educated. I believe that in the early 20th century the reason that higher education in the United States was more similar to the current English system was that then it was treated as a treasure. I know that both of my parents learned Latin in secondary school while preparing for college. That was a legacy of from the older system of education, as was their being steeped in English poetry. By the time I was in secondary school, the kind of exposure to some of the more traditional "English" subjects were taught mainly at independent (read college prep) schools.
 
weaver2 said:
My sister, with a PhD in Shakespearian literature from Cornell University married an Englishman studying the US presidency at Cornell. They married, went to England with their crispy new PhDs seeking college level teaching positions; she could not get a job because the English doubted she could convey the glories of English literature properly to English students. He could not get a job because the English considered the history of the US too short to fill an entire course. Eventually he got a job at Manchester University and she taught in a private girls school. Many visits with them over the years revealed the difference in attitude about the purpose of English and American educational educational systems. The English system's goal is to convey the long and glorious history and literature of the English and it is presented as the birthright of all Englishmen. The American educational system's goal was/is to present practical knowledge for living and contributing to a life in an entrepreneurial economy where money and position are the standards of success not knowledge of one's history and literature. The English treat education as something special offered to the public. American's treat education as essential to making a living. One is treated as a great privilege and a birthright; the other as a prerequisite to earning a living. The difference in focus and attitude is striking.
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This is an extraordinary overgeneralization, and I say that as someone whose own doctoral work focused on first-half 18th century Brit. Lit. who also studied Donne, Milton, Shakespeare and further back to Lovelace.
 
phoenix2020 said:
You know, your fellow MAGA soldiers whom you’ll never once cross publically. Sure you’ll post whines about liberals, independents, and anybody else all day long. But MAGA? Nah. They can hope for a virus to kill all liberals and the most we can expect from you is “but won’t somebody please think of the community college graduates!!!”
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My fellow MAGA soldiers? What a laugh! Well, your entire post is ludicrous and pretty pathetic, but saying that I "whine" and am part of some MAGA "army" is just...well, peculiar.
 
weaver2 said:
Being uneducated means sneering at topics you don't understand, working at a low wage job stocking shelves and being in deep debt for your new $80,000 4 door, extended bed duo-ly with custom wheels and paint job and usurious interest.
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Neither one is good, but that's still an $80,000 something instead of a $200,000 nothing.
 
Cosmo said:
Smart enough not to have a useless $200,000 degree. I think when leftists say "smart" they mean woke.

What's being made up? There's a reason the left runs on a platform of student debt forgiveness. https://studentaid.gov/debt-relief-announcement
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That whole post is made-up shit. You just invented it. Made it up. And you made it up because it's stupid and you wanted to post stupid shit.
 
Grand Mal said:
That whole post is made-up shit. You just invented it. Made it up. And you made it up because it's stupid and you wanted to post stupid shit.
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What's made up? Plumbers can make $100k.
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Cosmo said:
I'm glad we have leftists who can't figure out what bathroom to use to tell us what's in our best interests. :rolleyes:
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You guys are the ones confused about bathrooms.
 
---------- said:
The Liberal's world seems to be collapsing around itself. President Trump has broken them. It couldn't happen to a nicer group of people. (but... but... but... Trump is a Nazi, convicted felon, racist and rapist. And he steals children's allowances! ) :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Sonny Hostin may have unveiled the real reason why the Democrats lost the election, but she had it all wrong. She recently said on "The View," that "What we did not have is white women, who voted about 52% for Donald Trump – uneducated white women is my understanding."

One of the realities of why the Democrats lost this election in the landslide is thinking they have a monopoly on defining what being "educated" means in America today and here’s the reality of what this word means in America today. Let’s examine this.

click here to read... unless you are triggered by Fox News. If that's the case then here is your binky. :)
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They totally understand. The more letters you have after your name the smarter you are!

Think about it, if you spend 20 years or more working on your various degrees, have a whole mess of peer reviewed academic papers with your name on them, etc. then you are highly educated and if all your theories fall flat when put to the real world that isn't your fault. It's OBVIOUSLY the fault of all the uneducated hicks that are just too stupid to comprehend your brilliance!
 
nota bene said:
This is an extraordinary overgeneralization, and I say that as someone whose own doctoral work focused on first-half 18th century Brit. Lit. who also studied Donne, Milton, Shakespeare and further back to Lovelace.
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Ya know, my education ended at Grade 12, unless apprenticeship counts, but I could recite for you Richard Lovelace, To Lucasta on Going To The War, and John Donne, Death Be Not Proud. John Donne was interesting, being a romantic poet but also a high-level clergyman.
Was Lovelace previous to Shakespeare? Cavaliers and the civil war 'n all.
 
SCrider said:
You guys are the ones confused about bathrooms.
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Nah we're good.

How do you prove which bathroom YOU should use?

There's no easy way to say this but as a Biological Woman I have to say it. Everyone poops and pees. It's just a biological fact. That being said when I use the bathroom I use the bathroom for reasons I believe I am allowed to use. As is the case with every single individual when they use a...
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I don't agree that education necessarily means 'a degree'. That's less true now than 25 years ago. Less people are going to college because it's high cost and not as useful as before in securing employment.

However, are Republicans and Trump supporters as a group less informed and studied on the issues? Absolutely.
 
Lutherf said:
They totally understand. The more letters you have after your name the smarter you are!

Think about it, if you spend 20 years or more working on your various degrees, have a whole mess of peer reviewed academic papers with your name on them, etc. then you are highly educated and if all your theories fall flat when put to the real world that isn't your fault. It's OBVIOUSLY the fault of all the uneducated hicks that are just too stupid to comprehend your brilliance!
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LOL

Bringing the sauce! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Cosmo said:
How's that? Must be hard for him to make it in the private sector while being utterly insane.
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He panders to incels.

He was an early adopter of that racket.
 
Hamish Howl said:
He panders to incels.

He was an early adopter of that racket.
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Where does he "pander" to incels, and more importantly, how does this make him insane?

Also he has multiple children, so...not sure he's doing the pandering too well.
 
nota bene said:
My fellow MAGA soldiers? What a laugh! Well, your entire post is ludicrous and pretty pathetic, but saying that I "whine" and am part of some MAGA "army" is just...well, peculiar
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Yes, your fellow soldiers whom you’ll bend yourself into a pretzel to avoid directly confronting or criticizing in any way. Immigrants are eating cats? You’ll stay silent and avoid eye contact. Anybody not MAGA is an enemy within? You’ll stay silent and look for a liberal to whine about. 2020 election was stolen? You guessed it, silence, hiding in a corner.

So yes, they’re either your fellow soldiers or you’ve chosen for other reasons to practice absolute submission to them. I’ll let you decide which of the two it is.

The next time a MAGA says something vile on a thread, I wish you the best in finding some liberal or RINO to complain about and attempt to chastise. Good luck!
 
Ikari said:
I got paid to go to grad school and came out with a PhD and zero debt.
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Almost everybody that goes for a PhD emerges debt free. Universities sort out pretty carefully who they grant PhDs to and they pay stipends to almost all of them. In addition most PhD candidates are also paid to teach a course or two or run a lab. The better universities offer hefty scholarships.
 
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