Democratic representative Clyburn is presently on Bloomberg TV and he is saying the the Democrats are strongly for border security and he clearly stated that the amount of money for such an action is not a problem. Whatever is needed is what he said. Nonetheless, he also said that what needs to happen is for an intelligent study by experts done that would clearly state what are the best ways to protect our borders.
He did say that Trump does not have any credible information about border security and what is the best way to protect our borders and that all he is doing is trying to build the wall so he can fulfill his campaign promise to his base.
He went on to say that the Democrats will not give in to the hostage situation that Trump has created and that they will not talk or give in until the government shut down is over.
I personally believe this makes a lot of common sense, do you?
No. It is like a jewelry store leaving it's door open and the jewelry in the display window when the business is closed, claiming they did this because they have a security camera and locking the door and putting the jewelry in a safe would just cause the jewelry to be stolen.
The Democratic Party is wasting $1 billion per day no different than throwing it into a fire - now more money that the entire 300 miles Trump wants to add to the 700 miles of existing Pelosi-Schumer border barrier. The question is not how much will those extra 300 miles cost, but now many billions and billions and billions of dollars will the Democratic Party burn to not have it.
So go do your study. We will wait.Democratic representative Clyburn is presently on Bloomberg TV and he is saying the the Democrats are strongly for border security and he clearly stated that the amount of money for such an action is not a problem. Whatever is needed is what he said. Nonetheless, he also said that what needs to happen is for an intelligent study by experts done that would clearly state what are the best ways to protect our borders.
He did say that Trump does not have any credible information about border security and what is the best way to protect our borders and that all he is doing is trying to build the wall so he can fulfill his campaign promise to his base.
He went on to say that the Democrats will not give in to the hostage situation that Trump has created and that they will not talk or give in until the government shut down is over.
I personally believe this makes a lot of common sense, do you?
Democratic representative Clyburn is presently on Bloomberg TV and he is saying the the Democrats are strongly for border security and he clearly stated that the amount of money for such an action is not a problem. Whatever is needed is what he said. Nonetheless, he also said that what needs to happen is for an intelligent study by experts done that would clearly state what are the best ways to protect our borders.
He did say that Trump does not have any credible information about border security and what is the best way to protect our borders and that all he is doing is trying to build the wall so he can fulfill his campaign promise to his base.
He went on to say that the Democrats will not give in to the hostage situation that Trump has created and that they will not talk or give in until the government shut down is over.
I personally believe this makes a lot of common sense, do you?
Democratic representative Clyburn is presently on Bloomberg TV and he is saying the the Democrats are strongly for border security and he clearly stated that the amount of money for such an action is not a problem. Whatever is needed is what he said. Nonetheless, he also said that what needs to happen is for an intelligent study by experts done that would clearly state what are the best ways to protect our borders.
He did say that Trump does not have any credible information about border security and what is the best way to protect our borders and that all he is doing is trying to build the wall so he can fulfill his campaign promise to his base.
He went on to say that the Democrats will not give in to the hostage situation that Trump has created and that they will not talk or give in until the government shut down is over.
I personally believe this makes a lot of common sense, do you?
No. It is like a jewelry store leaving it's door open and the jewelry in the display window when the business is closed, claiming they did this because they have a security camera and locking the door and putting the jewelry in a safe would just cause the jewelry to be stolen.
The Democratic Party is wasting $1 billion per day no different than throwing it into a fire - now more money that the entire 300 miles Trump wants to add to the 700 miles of existing Pelosi-Schumer border barrier. The question is not how much will those extra 300 miles cost, but now many billions and billions and billions of dollars will the Democratic Party burn to not have it.
No. It is like a jewelry store leaving it's door open and the jewelry in the display window when the business is closed, claiming they did this because they have a security camera and locking the door and putting the jewelry in a safe would just cause the jewelry to be stolen.
The Democratic Party is wasting $1 billion per day no different than throwing it into a fire - now more money that the entire 300 miles Trump wants to add to the 700 miles of existing Pelosi-Schumer border barrier. The question is not how much will those extra 300 miles cost, but now many billions and billions and billions of dollars will the Democratic Party burn to not have it.
So go do your study. We will wait.
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What experts exactly? Seems to me that the experts would be those that actually patrol our border and interact with it every single day. And they say that walls work. Walls Work
If Trumps wall is so gosh darn wonderful, then this shouldn't even be possible.....
30 unaccompanied children were among 376 migrants who tunneled under border wall into Arizona
and from the cartel smugglers themselves.....
Trump says a border wall would ‘help stop drugs.’ El Chapo’s smugglers suggest it won’t.
CBP agent Melissa Lucio explains to Trump (and even shows him pictures) that people easily tunnel under the walls. Trump had no reply at all.
Bottom line, Trumps wall is a bad and impractical campaign promise.
What experts exactly? Seems to me that the experts would be those that actually patrol our border and interact with it every single day. And they say that walls work. Walls Work
No.
We have the information we need concerning "the best ways to protect our borders" from the people who's job it is to do just that. They have said they want a number of things...including a wall. We don't need a "study". We need to put our trust in the people who are doing the job.
Sorry, but I'll need more from Clyburn than him saying "Trump does not have any credible information about border security". Clyburn needs to tell me WHY Trump's information is not credible.
The Democrats are taking part in this "hostage situation".
People can also do the job but robots do it better. This is not about what works but about what works best for the requirements.
If Trumps wall is so gosh darn wonderful, then this shouldn't even be possible.....
30 unaccompanied children were among 376 migrants who tunneled under border wall into Arizona
and from the cartel smugglers themselves.....
Trump says a border wall would ‘help stop drugs.’ El Chapo’s smugglers suggest it won’t.
CBP agent Melissa Lucio explains to Trump (and even shows him pictures) that people easily tunnel under the walls. Trump had no reply at all.
Bottom line, Trumps wall is a bad and impractical campaign promise.
No. It is like a jewelry store leaving it's door open and the jewelry in the display window when the business is closed, claiming they did this because they have a security camera and locking the door and putting the jewelry in a safe would just cause the jewelry to be stolen.
Cute video. Here are some articles linked to actual studies:
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/borders-and-walls-do-barriers-deter-unauthorized-migration
https://www.rand.org/blog/2016/09/why-a-border-wall-would-do-little-besides-waste-money.html
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/why-wall-wont-work
TLDR version:
YES. In certain very limited circumstances: namely concentrated, heavily-populated urban areas constantly patrolled by border guards, barriers are useful in aiding interception by slowing and raising the visibility of border crossers enough so that a nearby border patrol agent can make an arrest.
Everywhere else and in every other circumstance, walls DO NOT work.
Would the U.S. benefit from more and better barriers in border cities where we have a large number of border patrol officers? Yes. Do we need any walls at all outside of the border cities where there are few if any border patrol agents? No. They would not work and therefore would be an unnecessary expense.
"done that would clearly state what are the best ways to protect our borders." And according to that link I provided you Walls are a part of what works "best".
So either it works 100% or its trash and shouldn't even be attempted? How's that work out for murder laws?
No one expects the wall to work 100% of the time under any and all conditions. To claim that those tunnels wouldn't have happened if walls worked is nothing more than BS. And a wall is not the only thing being proposed. But it is a component. One that both parties agreed on many times over the past several decades. Which is why parts of our southern border have walls. The only reason that Democrats are opposing it now is because its Trump.
I've read that first link before. Since you apparently didn't actually read it here's a summation of it...
Walls work...but it funnels those seeking to enter illegally into more dangerous areas such as deserts and therefore doesn't really work and costs some illegals their lives. Ergo: THINK OF THE LIVES!!! and because it costs lives walls don't work. It also ignores that China's Great Wall fell not due to illegal immigrants, but due to a determined army. No wall through out the entire human history has ever stood against determined invaders. That doesn't mean that walls don't help keep out those that don't have the capabilities of an army.
And no one has suggested that ONLY walls work. It's a combination of several things that make Walls effective. Which is why Trump has requested that money be spent on getting extra border patrol agents and technology to help detect tunnels being built and detecting drugs.
You wanna know what the problem is...truly?
The President on multiple occasions has told us that if we give him what he wanted, we wouldn't have this problem any more. He just is incapable of making a true statement without it making him the greatest thing since sliced bread. The reason this is a problem is that instead of trying to convince someone that a solution is 70% effective, and that 70% is better than it currently is, he has backed himself into the position of trying to prove a solution is 100% effective because he simply couldn't proclaim he wouldn't be 100% in every way, and we both know he won't be.
As to the red.....again, this proves how bad a negotiator he is. If what you say is true, then why is he willing to die on the hill of the wall and not attempt to get EVERYTHING else he wants. The answer is really simple....because a wall is a monument to his greatness. 25000 more border patrol agents and drones and cameras wouldn't be.
I saw the video and at no time did she do any comparison to other border security methods. No one has disputed the idea that under some circumstances walls do work but this is not about building a wall to fulfill Trump's promise to his base but about securing our borders in the best way possible, including the political and visual damages that such a wall would bring about.
Illegal immigration is NOT going to stop and that means that the wall is not the all inclusive answer to our illegal immigration ills. This means that we need to spend the money in ways that not only accomplishes physical determent in the best way but political as well as financial.
and by the way, this problem has been going on for decades and right now our illegal immigration problem is at the lowest point in 15 years, what is the rush? Why does the President have to hurt innocent people when the problem is at the lowest point it has been for ages? None of the other Presidents hurt innocent people trying to solve this problem when it was a bigger problem. Why is he not working with Democrats to solve the problem in a way that is bi-partisan so that the problem is solved to the agreement of all. This is NOT a crisis, why is he treating it as a crisis? I tell you why, it is because he is losing his base and it will cause him to lose the election and that is why he is doing it. Not because it is necessarily the best course of action but because it is the only course of action for his own personal benefit (not the American public).
He has been attempting to get everything that he wants. Which is why his proposals have included extra border agents and better technology to detect both drugs and tunnels.
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