Dem Congressman: ‘We’ve Proved That Communism Works’

[The German]

Left wing. Learn your history on your own. If you go to a liberal, progressive, socialist or communist professor what do you think you will learn? Hitler was as fascistic and Roosevelt. They were kindred spirits.

Blood and Soil is built upon right wing social values coming out of christian fanatisism.

 

[poweRob]

Left wing, just like the National socialists, Roosevelt, Mussolini, and Stalin.

It was the American national socialist party. I suppose the American Communist Party is equally right wing.

Why? why don't you know anything?

 

[Misterveritis]

Blood and Soil is built upon right wing social values coming out of christian fanatisism.

Blood and Soil and many other methods for revving up the folk were fascist tools used to instill a belief that we must all sacrifice for the greater good, to elicit feelings and attitudes of nationalism. These are standard, left wing, totalitarian fascist tools. We had the same thing here under Wilson, the Roosevelts and other Progressive presidents.

 

[Misterveritis]

Why? why don't you know anything?

So you do believe the American Communist Party is right wing?

Do you believe that any group not solidly pro-FDR was right wing? He was attacked more from the Left than from the right.

One could ask you the same question.

 

[Mason66]

yeah yeah go ahead and say whatever you wish to say.

I am certain the peoples of the swamps will be very interested.

whilest the civilised word continues to to attend to things that actualy matter.

Can you please explain what you mean by "peoples of the swamps"?

Thanks

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

lol

another american who thinks he can explain fascism to a german

Simply epic like many of your posts

 

[MTAtech]

Fascism and Nazism, which no doubt you are familiar with, are both diseases of the totalitarian left.

Are you claiming your german background as a mental disability?

You are arrogant and rude. German, perhaps. LOL indeed.

Sorry, you are indeed either ignorant or deluded or both.

This passage is from page 22 of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," by Shirer, the undisputed source of Nazi history.

Here in a nutshell were the ideas and techniques which Hitler was later
to use in constructing his own political party and in leading it to power in
Germany. His originality lay in his being the only politician of the Right to
apply them to the German scene after the First World War. It was then that the
Nazi movement, alone among the nationalist and conservative parties, gained
a great mass following and, having achieved this, won over” the support of the
Army, the President of the Republic and the associations of big business – three
”long-established institutions” of great power, which led to the chancellorship
of Germany. The lessons learned in Vienna proved useful indeed.

 

[Misterveritis]

Sorry, you are indeed either ignorant or deluded or both.

This passage is from page 22 of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," by Shirer, the undisputed source of Nazi history.

And yet he made the fundamental error of accepting the liberal interpretation that Hitler was a product of the right.

It is possible that I am deluded. Ignorant?

Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.​

Unlikely. I have a masters degree. I am an engineer. I have read more than 2000 books including a very large number on history. The difference between us is that I do not feel the need to be comforted by liberalism's lies. I can think for myself.

Rely upon him for basic facts but not for interpretation.

 

[MTAtech]

And yet he made the fundamental error of accepting the liberal interpretation that Hitler was a product of the right.

It is possible that I am deluded. Ignorant?

Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.​

Unlikely. I have a masters degree. I am an engineer. I have read more than 2000 books including a very large number on history. The difference between us is that I do not feel the need to be comforted by liberalism's lies. I can think for myself.

Rely upon him for basic facts but not for interpretation.

With all your education there is no excuse for not knowing that Hitler and the Nazis were right-wing. They hated the Communists. Apart from reading, my father lived through this and taught me at length who the Nazis were. The revisionists who assert now that Hitler was a leftist are pedaling history that is absurd. I can't think of any serious historian that believes Hitler was anything but right-wing. Within weeks of becoming Chancellor of Germany he started arresting socialists and communists.

 

[Misterveritis]

The Lie once believed

With all your education there is no excuse for not knowing that Hitler and the Nazis were right-wing. They hated the Communists. Apart from reading, my father lived through this and taught me at length who the Nazis were. The revisionists who assert now that Hitler was a leftist are pedaling history that is absurd. I can't think of any serious historian that believes Hitler was anything but right-wing. Within weeks of becoming Chancellor of Germany he started arresting socialists and communists.

First, the national socialists were not right wing. They never were. They were as leftists as Roosevelt and Stalin.

They hated the Communists because they were competing for the same people. Fascism, national socialism and communism are all closely related. They all involve collectivism. They all involve suborning the individual for the benefit of the state. They are all utopian, just as Progressivism/liberalism is utopian.

What does your father have to do with the national socialists being leftists?

How many Conservatives supported Hitler? How many Progressives/liberals did? If you look beyond what your largely liberal teachers taught you it is clear that both Hitler and especially Mussolini were the darlings of the Left.

Of course, the Lie, once believed, is a hard thing to set down.

 

[MTAtech]

Re: The Lie once believed

First, the national socialists were not right wing. They never were. They were as leftists as Roosevelt and Stalin.

They hated the Communists because they were competing for the same people. Fascism, national socialism and communism are all closely related. They all involve collectivism. They all involve suborning the individual for the benefit of the state. They are all utopian, just as Progressivism/liberalism is utopian.

What does your father have to do with the national socialists being leftists?

How many Conservatives supported Hitler? How many Progressives/liberals did? If you look beyond what your largely liberal teachers taught you it is clear that both Hitler and especially Mussolini were the darlings of the Left.

Of course, the Lie, once believed, is a hard thing to set down.

What did my father have to do with the national socialists? He fought them in North Africa, via the U.S. Air Corp.

Now, if you want to insist that the Nazis and Hitler were left-wing, nobody can convince you otherwise. However, the body of historical information concludes that Hilter and his movement were right-wing -- and it really isn't debatable. Anyone paying attention during the 1930s knew it. The name "National Socialist" was to gain acceptance, as Socialism was a popular movement in Germany at the time. Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism. He also celebrated industrialists, like Henry Ford. Socialism is movement whose goal is to nationalize the means of production Fascism is a movement that uses private ownership but the power of the state to increase corporate scope.

 

[Misterveritis]

Re: The Lie once believed

What did my father have to do with the national socialists? He fought them in North Africa, via the U.S. Air Corp.

In other words he had no special insights into national socialism.
Hitler rounded up his citizens and put them into camps.
FDR rounded up his citizens and put them into camps.

Hitler had his successful "New Deal" and the lower middle class loved him.
FDR had his not quite so successful "New Deal" and the lower middle class loved him.

Hitler mobilized the nation, putting it onto a wartime-socialism footing, making his people believe they were all in it together.
FDR mobilized the nation, putting it onto a wartime-socialism footing, making his people believe they were all in it together.

Now, if you want to insist that the Nazis and Hitler were left-wing, nobody can convince you otherwise. However, the body of historical information concludes that Hilter and his movement were right-wing -- and it really isn't debatable. Anyone paying attention during the 1930s knew it. The name "National Socialist" was to gain acceptance, as Socialism was a popular movement in Germany at the time. Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism. He also celebrated industrialists, like Henry Ford. Socialism is movement whose goal is to nationalize the means of production Fascism is a movement that uses private ownership but the power of the state to increase corporate scope.

You use of the terms socialism and fascism are simplistic. All three nations, Germany, Italy, and the US used a mix of fascism and socialism to run their countries. Wartime-socialism, for example, uses all the trappings of militarism to arouse, organize and control its people. Wilson used it and reveled in it during WWI. Roosevelt used it during the Depression and WWII. Mussolini, who was long the darling of the Left, as were Hitler and Stalin, to a lesser degree, did the same things.

Leftist called national socialism right wing because of their embarrassment over Hitler's nasty little crime of murdering 10 million helpless people.

I am very busy today. I have some tasks that must be completed in preparation for tomorrow. I will happily continue to provide evidence. For now read about what Hitler did leading up to WWII and pass lightly over the liberal's use of the term "right wing". Just look at it objectively. Was Hitler, like Mussolini, Stalin and FDR increasing the power of the state at the ultimate expense of the individual? If so he was authoritarian left. Think of fascism, socialism and liberalism as tools.