Greek Orthodox leaders trying to rebuild the only church destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attacks expressed shock this week after learning, via Fox News, that government officials had killed a deal to relocate the church.
The St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, once a tiny, four-story building in the shadows of lower Manhattan, was destroyed in 2001 by one of the falling World Trade Center towers. Nobody from the church was hurt in the attack, but the congregation has, for the past eight years, been trying to rebuild its house of worship.
Though talks between the church and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey stalled last year, church leaders say they've been trying to kick-start discussions ever since. But amid debate over whether a proposed Islamic community center should go forward near Ground Zero, government officials threw cold water on the prospect of any deal with the church -- telling Fox News the deal is off the table.
FOXNews.com - Decision Not to Rebuild Church Destroyed on 9/11 Surprises Greek Orthodox Leaders
Mosque? Rock on.
Destroyed Church? No way man.
The archdiocese and Port Authority now offer sharply conflicting accounts of where things went wrong. The Port Authority has previously claimed the church was making additional demands -- like wanting the $20 million up front and wanting to review plans for the surrounding area. They say the church can still proceed on its own if it wishes.
"The church continues to have the right to rebuild at their original site, and we will pay fair market value for the underground space beneath that building," a spokesperson with the Port Authority told Fox News
From your own article:
The issue here is over money.
1) On one hand, the mosque is using its own funds to pay for construction. The government says it can build there if it wants to.
2) On the other hand, talks between the Orthodox church and the government broke down over conditions. The government says it can build there if it wants to, and the government says it will even give them taxpayer money, which the mosque won't be getting.
Faux outrage anyone? FOX News has called this one right. Too bad you didn't read your own link, or you would have known the facts.
I believe I read somewhere that the fund rasing tour for the Mosque is being paid for by our State Dept.
Not true at all. There is a tour that Rauf is on, but it is to promote religious tolerance:
Not true at all. There is a tour that Rauf is on, but it is to promote religious tolerance:
Crowley said no fund-raising for the mosque and cultural center during the trip would be permitted. "That would not be something he could do as part of our program," he said.
Abdul Rauf said funds for the center will come from Muslims and members of his congregation.
But a London-based Arabic-language newspaper that interviewed Abdul Rauf reported that he says he also will collect money from Muslim and Arab nations around the world -- raising the possibility his goodwill mission could help him build contacts in oil-rich states.
"Does the State Department have any idea they are sending a guy to the Middle East who is going to be fund-raising perhaps among the very same people he will be meeting with?" asked Debra Burlingame, a 9/11 family member.
From your own article:
The issue here is over money.
1) On one hand, the mosque is using its own funds to pay for construction. The government says it can build there if it wants to.
2) On the other hand, talks between the Orthodox church and the government broke down over terms and conditions. The government says it can build there if it wants to, and the government says it will even give them taxpayer money, which the mosque won't be getting.
Faux outrage anyone? FOX News has called this one right. Too bad you didn't read your own link, or you would have known the facts.
Dan to the RESCUE! Liberals rejoice!
Talks broke down, there is no media coverage (till now of the issue).
Dan to the RESCUE! Liberals rejoice!
Talks broke down, there is no media coverage (till now of the issue).
Not true at all. There is a tour that Rauf is on, but it is to promote religious tolerance:
Let's go build a shrine to nuclear technology in Hiroshima. I mean, it's about nuclear energy, not nuclear bombs, so c'mon.
Then, we can build a barber shop and a weight-loss clinic across the street from Auschwitz.
Since Hitler professed to be a Christian, then we can't have churches at all in Auschwitz, since Hitler represents all Christians. Do you see how silly this argument is?
Not true at all. There is a tour that Rauf is on, but it is to promote religious tolerance:
What just happened here, folks?
1) Mr. Vicchio starts a thread implying that the mosque is being allowed to be built, but a greek orthodox church is not, showing bias towards islam.
2) Mr. Vicchio uses a link from FOX News to prove his point.
3) The FOX News link that Mr. Vicchio uses shows him to be wrong, which means that he did not even read his own link before posting it.
4) DanaRhea points this out to him.
5) Mr. Vicchio now has a lot of egg on his face.
6) So Mr. Vicchio attempts to hijack his own thread. It is no longer about the ground zero mosque, but how DanaRhea is a fake Conservative and the Liberals' best friend.
7) Mr. V has now doubled the amount of egg on his face. Are you still able to breathe through all that egg, Mr. V?
:rofl
And you are really niave enough to believe he isn't raising money on the same trip?
Stick to the subject Dan.
No, I see how silly it is to reduce the entirety of World War II into one man.
Those events happened, and they are incredibly hurtful to the survivors and descendants of those atrocities.
Same here. It is incredibly bad taste to build this on the site of this horrible atrocity.
And you are really niave enough to believe he isn't raising money on the same trip?
Since Hitler professed to be a Christian, then we can't have churches at all in Auschwitz, since Hitler represents all Christians. Do you see how silly this argument is?
No, I see how silly it is to reduce the entirety of World War II into one man.
Those events happened, and they are incredibly hurtful to the survivors and descendants of those atrocities.
Same here. It is incredibly bad taste to build this on the site of this horrible atrocity.
Both of you have the most intellectually vapid arguments.
The issue has been dealt with multiple times and shown that this is no big deal but you continue to push it because of your bigotry towards Muslims.
Get off it, the mosque is getting built and trashing the character of the individuals involved, won't change a thing.
Do not call me a bigot. It has nothing to do with the point I am making. This is a specific point about this specific man.
Want to bet some cash on it? I'll bet you 20 bucks paypal it doesn't get built at that site.
Both of you have the most intellectually vapid arguments.
The issue has been dealt with multiple times and shown that this is no big deal but you continue to push it because of your bigotry towards Muslims.
Get off it, the mosque is getting built and trashing the character of the individuals involved, won't change a thing.
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