skabanger13
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MeChMAN said:Republicans want live babys so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. And why is it when it's us it's an abortion and when it's a chicken it's an omelet?
Blue Hobgoblin said:Excellent point. Sometimes I feel right-wingers respect for human life doesn't extend beyond the womb.
Blue Hobgoblin said:I've got a question for the cons and republicans. You say you want to promote a culture of life and support not funding stem cell research that could alleviate the suffering of millions of persons, yet you have no problem with strapping a person in a metal chair and electrocuting him. Now how does this make sense? :thinking
I don't see the problem. Any US pharmaceutical manufacturer or research labratory is completely free to do unrestricted stem cell research and to reap the economical benefits which may flow therefrom.globalvision said:there are differences in stem cells. fetal stem cells are the most versatile and can be used to grow into any organ, stem cells from the umbilical cord are less versatile though more research needs to be done on them. adult stem cells can only be used effectively on the donor. this means that for most medical procedures we need the Embryonic stem cells.
The solution is simple. Press the "Spell Check" button at the bottom of the screen, alongside the "Preview Post" button.skabanger13 said:its just i cant seam to type a single word or try to say somthing whith out some one comeing out and complaning about my spelling , our trying to say im stuped, when infact i am very inteligent i just cant spell. im just better at speaking than i am at typing, and since i cant speak on line they will just have to put up whith my bad gramer and spelling.
About the stem cell the areas ther useing fetus stem cells in, IE to help the parelized mobility etc. Ther is a case wher thay have halped a women who couldent walk get some of her mobilty back and she is now walking whith the assistence of a cain and thay did use adult stem cells in that case. but also thay can get stem cells from the imbelical cord after birth.
Another question i would like to ask, if ther is any one wiling to anser it, how many people out ther belive it is wrong or crule to kill animals Ie fish, cows , pigs ETC to eat and for clothing but feal abortion is all right.
Dark Gypsy Curse said:I am so lost when it comes to abortion.However, the death penalty is probably the worst thing that someone can do. Even if someone killed my father, he or she doesn't deserve to die unless God ends her or his life. Abortion is a very tough topic. If you got raped, i think you should get one. First thing you got raped, and now you have to carry a baby and raise it for the rest of your life....that is wrong. Also if it is before three months, i think it is OK to abort. The reason why is because the baby hasn't really even formed yet. The womb is ready and all...but the baby's soul isn't there. If it is after that time period....then that is wrong. The baby is living....it breathes the air you breathe and eats the food you eat. Without those it cannot survive. It is just like you. When you find out what the baby is (boy or girl) you cannot just abort because u didn't want that....(my mom friend did that because she had 6 girls and found out the one coming in 2 months was too. So she aborted the baby by overdosing medication. I couldn't look at her for years. I looked at her like a criminal. That is just plain sexism. So by the rules I stated, i think abortion is OK if it is before 3 months, but after, don't even think about it. You have to understand this thing has a soul. You should take responsibility for your action. If you got raped, don't think about keeping the baby...you have suffered enough and raising a baby that was forced to be conceived is so wrong. I hope people out there are making the right choices
RightatNYU said:So you claim "this thing has a soul," but only after 3 months?
But the death penalty is the worst thing you can do. So, you would balance the 30,000,000 babies that have been killed in abortions in the US in the past 30 years alongside the few hundred convicted mass murderers, rapists, and terrorists who have been executed?
I don't see the connection.
Dark Gypsy Curse said:haha, ok let me explain....I belive before three months the baby doesnt have a soul. This is belived in many relgions....I think after the three months that it is very wrong. But if you got raped, do u belive in rasing that child? IT WAS FORCED IN YOU pretty much. I told you in the beginning i was confused about it...and this what i believe. Abortion is wrong. There are some exceptions. I clearly stated them. Any questions?
RightatNYU said:Yes, I have just one question.
Can you show me the appropriate verse in either the Bible, the Talmut, or the Quran where it says that a child doesn't have a soul until 3 months?
Was it something like "And thy child shall have no spirit of the lord until 3 moons may pass, before that he is naught but a collection of cells?"
Dark Gypsy Curse said:ok, well i go to a catholic school, and this issue came up. the preist said what i said. There you go. Argue with the preist. lol.
RightatNYU said:That's really, really disturbing.
Dark Gypsy Curse said:Go ahead and expalin why you think that......
I think that there must have been a misunderstanding. Perhaps when you are in next in school you may wish to raise the question with one of your teachers.Dark Gypsy Curse said:ok, well i go to a catholic school, and this issue came up. the preist said what i said. There you go. Argue with the preist. lol.
Arch Enemy said:wow I am confused.. You got to a Catholic school yet you're not Catholic.
Again, NYU is correct.. the Bible doesn't mention anything about 3 months, days etc for the creation of a soul in a child. If it did mention "3" it doesn't really mean 3.. most of the time in the bible.. they used 3 to signify longer periods of time.. so I doubt this equation is in the bible "Age > 3 = Soul". Plus they had little idea about the whole cell or fetus thing. Plus, Catholic Priests aren't always a reliable source.. they do tend to abuse alter boys (no offense to anyone)
For me I believe the Death Penalty is wrong.. As before said many a-times people have been wrongfully put to death.. It is a hard to keep racism and discrimination out of American Judicial System who are the ones who make this decision. Also the fear of death won't stop a mass murderer they've already have committed themselves to a life of chaos and death, usually death is what they want.
Abortion... A really sketchy topic.. I feel that Abortion should be banned in some aspects. If the rape was because the chick was some slut who happened to provoke a bunch of drugged up gangsters, then defiantly deny her the right. If it was an ordinary woman and was in the wrong place at the wrong time, then yes let her an abortion. I am in high-school and I know a few girls whom are very slutty and have had multiple abortions.. I feel those girls deserved the life they have laid before themselves and should start taking responsibility and have to keep the child.
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