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Dearborn anti-Kamala fools played themselves, final chapter

No its not. Its idiotic.

No, you not understanding why people don't want for people committing genocide is the problem. And it leaves you whitewashing the people committing genocide and blaming the victim. And not supporting the change needed. Could you point me to your post condemning the rogue state lobby? To Biden taking more money from them than any politician in history, alongside trump taking hundreds of millions?
 
It was a purity test. Anyone with a room temp IQ knew that Trump was a huge Bibi cheerleader. They chose the comfortable lies over the uncomfortable truth. Now they're getting what they voted for. 🤷‍♂️
Well, I tried to talk to you like a reasonable person, explaining that it's ridiculous to call opposing genocide a "purity test". That's like saying objecting to Hitler over the Holocaust is a "purity test". I read the first five words of your reply and see that you are not behaving reasonably, so have a nice day.
 
LOL, these guys voted for Mr. "Muslim ban" because Harris didn't meet with them enough? :ROFLMAO: (y)

Why are you adopting the arguing style of trump supporters? You left committing genocide for a year off the list. It wasn't 'didn't meet enough', it was didn't meet at all, and spit in their face about the ongoing genocide. And yes, she deserves the blame for that. And the country is paying the price for her wrongs.
 
Why are you adopting the arguing style of trump supporters? You left committing genocide for a year off the list. It wasn't 'didn't meet enough', it was didn't meet at all, and spit in their face about the ongoing genocide. And yes, she deserves the blame for that. And the country is paying the price for her wrongs.
they explicitly voted to make it worse, if you hate this genocide so much, take it up with them, it's not like I or any of us voted to make things worse for Palestinians.
 
No, you not understanding why people don't want for people committing genocide is the problem
I agree that people committing genocide is the problem.

Its idiotic to help the worse of the two candidates to win.
 
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So I am saying we know what the Biden-Harris administration did as Israel began its mass murder campaign.

You are expecting us to take, on faith alone, that Harris would have had the courage to change course.

Sorry, there just isn’t any evidence to support that.

Pretty silly stance, even after explaination.

Bottom line is that Trump let the world know from the beginning he had every intention of at least continuing the policy you are complaining about, if not ramping it up.

There was at least a chance that Harris would change direction once elected, since, as was explained in an earlier post, there was no way to stop the sending of the current shipments of weapons and money, as they had already been signed off on and were already being delivered.

You don't have any evidence that she WOULDN'T have made changes either, so theres that.
 
The obligation was on the Democrats to prove to the voters they were worthy of support, especially given the incumbent administration’s actions to support Israel’s campaign.

The Democrats failed to do so.

The blame for that falls solely on them, therefore, not the voters

No, it falls on the voters for not being educated enough to know that not voting for Harris ensured EVEN MORE of the very thing they were already pissed about.

In the real world, there were two options....option one was continuation of the policies already in place (a vote for Harris).....option two was a vote to make things even worse (a vote for Trump, or at the very least, abstention). That was it. Trying to argue anything else is simply ignoring what was ACTUALLY going on.
 
Well, I tried to talk to you like a reasonable person, explaining that it's ridiculous to call opposing genocide a "purity test". That's like saying objecting to Hitler over the Holocaust is a "purity test". I read the first five words of your reply and see that you are not behaving reasonably, so have a nice day.

#1 - straw man. I didn't say anything close to the bolded.

It's not "ridiculous" when history shows the only other option will be significantly worse. They are now seeing that play out in real time.




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No, it falls on the voters for not being educated enough to know that not voting for Harris ensured EVEN MORE of the very thing they were already pissed about.

In the real world, there were two options....option one was continuation of the policies already in place (a vote for Harris).....option two was a vote to make things even worse (a vote for Trump, or at the very least, abstention). That was it. Trying to argue anything else is simply ignoring what was ACTUALLY going on.
So in other words the Democrats were helping carry out borderline genocide, felt obligated to people’s votes, and threw a tantrum when they didn’t get them.

And rather than reflect on their choices, decided that, as usual, it was the minorities’ fault for not blindly supporting them in the name of “but Trump”.
 
So in other words the Democrats were helping carry out borderline genocide, felt obligated to people’s votes, and threw a tantrum when they didn’t get them.

And rather than reflect on their choices, decided that, as usual, it was the minorities’ fault for not blindly supporting them in the name of “but Trump”.
No dont be ridiculous. No one is saying that it's not in "other words"
 
So in other words the Democrats were helping carry out borderline genocide, felt obligated to people’s votes, and threw a tantrum when they didn’t get them.

And rather than reflect on their choices, decided that, as usual, it was the minorities’ fault for not blindly supporting them in the name of “but Trump”.

No....the Democrats were honoring the funding that was legally passed by Congress. If you want to make the case that by passing that funding, EVERYONE was complicit in helping carry out borderline genocide, by all means, make THAT case. That said, that isn't really what we are discussing here.

You have no proof of the belief that they thought they were obligated to the votes. Its just as likely that they figured with an educated populace that was paying attention to reality that it was plainly obvious that one side was the better choice on the matter than the other. Turns out, they were wrong about that.

As for your bit about "but Trump"....nobody who voted for that man can ever claim to care about the law, civility, basic human decency or the dignity of the office of the President, as in order to cast a vote for him, every one of those things had to be cast aside. This isn't about blindly supporting anything...its about recognizing that in the moment, those were the two options we had to vote for, short of the nation having some sort of epiphany and simultaneously writing in a more viable option. Given that those were the two options we had, anyone not voting for Harris, bad as she may have been, is complicit in the worse option coming to fruition.

Those are facts based on what the conditions were when we all had the chance to make things different, try as you might to try to rationalize it into something different.
 
Pretty silly stance, even after explaination.

Bottom line is that Trump let the world know from the beginning he had every intention of at least continuing the policy you are complaining about, if not ramping it up.

There was at least a chance that Harris would change direction once elected, since, as was explained in an earlier post, there was no way to stop the sending of the current shipments of weapons and money, as they had already been signed off on and were already being delivered.

You don't have any evidence that she WOULDN'T have made changes either, so theres that.
Bottom line is that nothing Harris did have any indication she would actually change the policies she implemented, and nobody owed the Democrats votes for helping carry out a borderline genocide
 
Bottom line is that nothing Harris did have any indication she would actually change the policies she implemented, and nobody owed the Democrats votes for helping carry out a borderline genocide
You keep completely missing the point.
 
No....the Democrats were honoring the funding that was legally passed by Congress. If you want to make the case that by passing that funding, EVERYONE was complicit in helping carry out borderline genocide, by all means, make THAT case. That said, that isn't really what we are discussing here.

You have no proof of the belief that they thought they were obligated to the votes. Its just as likely that they figured with an educated populace that was paying attention to reality that it was plainly obvious that one side was the better choice on the matter than the other. Turns out, they were wrong about that.

As for your bit about "but Trump"....nobody who voted for that man can ever claim to care about the law, civility, basic human decency or the dignity of the office of the President, as in order to cast a vote for him, every one of those things had to be cast aside. This isn't about blindly supporting anything...its about recognizing that in the moment, those were the two options we had to vote for, short of the nation having some sort of epiphany and simultaneously writing in a more viable option. Given that those were the two options we had, anyone not voting for Harris, bad as she may have been, is complicit in the worse option coming to fruition.

Those are facts based on what the conditions were when we all had the chance to make things different, try as you might to try to rationalize it into something different.
Gee, so you expect us to believe the Democrats in Congress would have rebelled and forced through such legislation if the administration made its objections know? Lol 😂

An educated populace would understand helping carry out borderline genocide carries consequences, especially amongst people whose relatives are the ones being mass murdered with American aid.

Yeah, nothing says “basic decency” like helping carry out mass murder and then throwing a tantrum because people refuse to vote for you over it 🙄

Gee dude, then what incentive would the Democrats have to ever change or listen to the people, when all they have to do is point at the Republicans and howl “but they are worse”?

Yeah, instead of facing up to their choices the Democrats have chosen to blame minorities for their failure, as mentioned.
 
You keep completely missing the point.
The point is that the Democrats helped carry out a borderline genocide, and people refused to vote for them as a result.

Nothing can ever change that.
 
They are also not obligated to complain about a certain someone wants to build Hotels over the corpses and ashes.
Maybe the Democrats shouldn’t have helped mass murder all those people to begin with.
 
Kicking Palestinians to the curb to build a resort isn't the answer.
Trump wasn’t in office when the latest Israeli mass murder campaign began.

The Democrats were, and their reaction was to happily back Tel Aviv with just about anything Israel could ask for.
 
The point is that the Democrats helped carry out a borderline genocide, and people refused to vote for them as a result...

...and, in doing so, put into office someone who will help carry out a full-on genocide, instead.


I finished that for you.
 
There is no reasonable argument to be made that a Trump administration would be better for Palestinians than a Harris administration.
There is no reasonable argument to be made that people are obligated to vote for the party supporting a borderline genocide
 
...and, in doing so, put into office someone who will help carry out a full-on genocide.


I finished that for you.
Sounds like the Democrats should have had the courage to stand up against the mass murder, instead of enabling it.
 
There is no reasonable argument to be made that people are obligated to vote for the party supporting a borderline genocide

I didn't say there was. But not voting has a predictable outcome - which we are all now living. I hope they're happy, 'cause Lord knows I'm not.
 
Sounds like the Democrats should have had the courage to stand up against the mass murder, instead of enabling it.

Irrelevant to the choice put in front of them - which is the very point you keep trying to evade.

In our current political environment, only 2 people were in the running for a victory - Harris or Trump. Their actions gave us Trump. It's undeniable.
 
I didn't say there was. But not voting has a predictable outcome - which we are all now living. I hope they're happy, 'cause Lord knows I'm not.
Which is entirely the fault of the Democratic Party, and trying to blame the voters is foolish.
 
Irrelevant to the choice put in front of them - which is the very point you keep trying to evade.

In our current political environment, only 2 people were in the running for a victory - Harris or Trump. Their actions gave us Trump. It's undeniable.
It’s undeniable the Democrats chose to aid Israel’s mass murder campaign.

Cries of “well, he’d do the exact same we are already doing, but worse” doesn’t convince anyone that you should be voted for.

America being a dysfunctional oligarchy doesn’t actually change the facts.
 
Cries of “well, he’d do the exact same we are already doing, but worse” doesn’t convince anyone that you should be voted for.
Can you link to previous posts where you show what would have been the winning message?
 

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