Montecresto
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Do you know who our #6 creditor is for USA debt? Russia. Know who #2 is? China. Only the American Public holds more USA debt than China. Economists are saying Russia will have a debt crisis by 2030 no matter what. Vlad Putin absolutely will not go to war with USA and risk USA defaulting on a few hundred billion dollars of debt. Russia's GDP is 1.8 trillion, whereas USA is 14.99 trillion. We can afford a $200 billion default, but Russia absolutely cannot. China, with a GDP of 7 trillion can afford a few hundred billion; but that's not what we owe them. We owe them a tad over $1.1 trillion; which they cannot afford for us to default on. China also does $500 billion in trade-goods with USA on the export side and $100 billion on the import side. She can ill afford for both of those numbers to go to $0. I am honestly not worried about China or Russia. Just like USA, they stand to make a lot of money supplying arms and rebuilding the countries that get leveled.
how many more people have to die before we intervene?
How is it possible to have a vote in the US Congress when Boehner will not call them back into session?
He's too busy golfing, campaigning and fund-raising.
He'll just let Bush's losers like Rummy lay another big turd as Rummy pulls for the all-white guy in Russia.
BBC News - Syria crisis: Incendiary bomb victims 'like the walking dead'
Schoolkids being bombed by a Syrian Fighter Jet. ( graphic video)
England remains a sensible country. They won't fall for Bush-like jingoism again.
I believe we should act to eliminate the chemical weapons no matter which side has them. I don't see the Free Syrian Army as likely having done this, but I wouldn't put it past the Islamic Front or al-Nusra. Either way, nobody in the conflict, not even the FSA, should be trusted with chemical weapons.
and how many kids in Afghanistan and Iraq were killed by British and American bombs... your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Speaking of Bush, I think this is all a case of "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....erm, y'know"
Yeh except we don't aim for children and try to avoid targeting civilian areas in general! The same can not be said for the Syrian regime given the weapons they are using and the death toll since the start of the war.
and how many kids in Afghanistan and Iraq were killed by British and American bombs... your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Yeh except we don't aim for children and try to avoid targeting civilian areas in general! The same can not be said for the Syrian regime given the weapons they are using and the death toll since the start of the war.
Oh yeah.. US never hit a wedding party just to kill some bad guy in Pakistan or bombed an area with a 500lb jdam to kill a few guys just "happens" to kill civilians.
Why do we ignore the civilians killed in American wars? - Washington Post
That's numbers with the "best" trained military in the world.
And there is no evidence Syrian Government are directly aiming for children. What you fail to understand is there is another side that is fighting too who are even more poorly trained then the Syrian Army. That do fire randomly and are using indirect fire as well. They hide in and around civilian areas on purpose. That the Syrian Government can only fight the "enemy" where they are at and that's where they are at.
Do you (or even the US) blame the IDF (Israel) when they bomb a few areas and civilians die knowing they are in the area? No, you say Israel has a right to defend itself. If I told you that the UK Government couldn't go after PIRA, INLA, or even RIRA or CIRA because they live amongst the civilians and you risk civilian deaths by rolling up in your Saracens.. you'd tell me I'd cut your legs out from under you. It's why the British Government never paid no mind to international pressures during "The Troubles" in their policies of conducted "policing". But you want to cut the legs out from Syria because they are fight terrorist groups. How feckless of you.
Bollocks Andy! This had nothing to do with "lessons learned from Iraq" this was a case of a hung parliament to spineless to make the hard choice in a election year, this was political.
That is blatantly false on both counts.
I'd like to think there remain a few men in parliament with a sound mind, that have learned the folly of joining the US in another senseless conflict.
Oh ok can you show me some evidence that the American or British military have actively targeted civilians during Iraq and Afghan?
Actually I have been very critical of Israel for a number of year especially over the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.
Your comparing the Syrian civil war with the troubles in Northern Ireland is absurd and out of place, obviously their is a terrorist element to the Syrian rebels however they do not make up 100% of their fighting force and the whole struggle started as a grass roots peaceful protest which turned violent when the Assad regime cracked down on it. You post is confusing on many levels especially given the fact you are very critical of Americas military/ British Military, you accuse the rebels of having a terrorist agenda and you finish it with defending the Syrian government. So you openly support this violent dictatorships fight for power?
Being critical and calling for intervention (over throw) are two different things. You've chosen to go one step further with Syria.
I am not comparing, I am pointing out the hypocrisy. Both events are totally different and don't disagree on that account but the British didn't want anybody telling them what to do so why expect Syria to want that advice? But your are down right ignorant if you think the Syrian Free Army isn't a terrorist group, they hire foreigners to fight or train them. Hell, if your Muslim from the Balkans and a vet of those wars, you'll get $2,000 a day. Then they act like it (they use the same tactics as the PIRA did) and they've committed war crimes according to the UN. UN: Syrian Rebels Suspected of War Crimes
If they were doing that towards the US or British Government they'd be called Terrorist.. but since they fulfill the purpose of poking Iran in the eye via Syria.. they are "Freedom" Fighters.
Yet, FSA isn't the most effective and reliable rebel force in Syria. It's actually Al-Nusra Front. They are the go to force. It's the force the FSA sends to fight the Syrian Army and do the dirty work, then the FSA wipes their hands clean and says no, no, they aren't part of the FSA. These guys are a nasty and will do anything. They are all foreign.
There is estimates that up to 50% of the fighters in Syria are foreign and that's growing every day. Turkey sees hundreds a week funnel into Syria.
Can you show some EVIDENCE that Al Assad has actively targeted civilians during his struggle to defend Syria from jihadist terrorists?
Can you show some EVIDENCE that Al Assad has actively targeted civilians during his struggle to defend Syria from jihadist terrorists?
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