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Dang - I felt dirty watching this [W:336]

radcen said:
Your definition is incorrect. Simply put, a pop star is someone who is (currently) famous for performing pop music. Nothing more, nothing less. Some have talent and/or good career decision making capabilities and move beyond that, some don't. The music that Elvis and The Beatles performed in their early careers qualifies. The Beatles certainly moved beyond pop music, but Elvis? Meh, somewhat. He and his audience aged, but he was still performing age-appropriate pop music. Even pop music evolves, and is at times innovative, so that's really a meaningless criteria.

You're just wanting to use 'pop star' as a subjective dismissive derogatory term.
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Here is the definition of "pop music" that I am using to define a "pop star." There is nothing derogatory about it. It is a singer or artist makes music which is currently popular. Their fame is not usually based upon talent but upon what is popular, and their fame is usually fleeting. I'm certainly not an Elvis fan. He is before my time, so perhaps you're right about him. I am referring to our modern day "pop" music where they use synthesizers, etc. to enhance their sound. Most of the time, they have a stage presence but no real talent to offer. They are just a reflection of what is currently popular usually to teenagers.

Pop music is generally thought of as a genre which is commercially recorded and desires to have a mass audience appeal.[1]
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ChrisL said:
Nope, that's Christina Aguilera who does The Voice. I don't think Brittany is doing anything right now.
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She did this a couple years ago.



I think it was on the radio for all of five minutes. The only real reason it comes to mind is because the gay guy who lived a couple of doors down from me overseas liked to listen to it a lot. :lol:

She also had the following "hit" earlier this year.



That's really more his song than hers though, and it's sort of objectively terrible "lowest common denominator" tripe either way regardless.

Honestly, modern Britney seems to have become one of those niche acts (like Madonna, for instance) that are only really popular among gays and a handful of other more "flamboyantly" inclined demographics more than anything else.
 
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ChrisL said:
Nope, that's Christina Aguilera who does The Voice. I don't think Brittany is doing anything right now.
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Britney was a judge on X-factor last year or the year before that and now i think i heard on the radio she'll be on american idol
 
ChrisL said:
Here is the definition of "pop music" that I am using to define a "pop star." There is nothing derogatory about it. It is a singer or artist makes music which is currently popular. Their fame is not usually based upon talent but upon what is popular, and their fame is usually fleeting. I'm certainly not an Elvis fan. He is before my time, so perhaps you're right about him. I am referring to our modern day "pop" music where they use synthesizers, etc. to enhance their sound. Most of the time, they have a stage presence but no real talent to offer. They are just a reflection of what is currently popular usually to teenagers.
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Context and usage. Example...
ChrisL said:
All of these people we're referring to are nothing but pop stars anyway. They enjoy a few years of popularity but because they aren't really very talented, they tend to fade away, especially when they appeal to the younger generation. People outgrow them, and there are always new ones to take their places.
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Your use has been consistently dismissive and derogatory. Your phrasing, and especially the adjectives you use with the term, are what makes your use of the term dismissive and derogatory.

Please explain how "...nothing but..." is a positive and glowing descriptor. Then, if you can pass that, please explain how the blanket statement "...they aren't really very talented..." is even a neutral description.
 
radcen said:
Context and usage. Example...

Your use has been consistently dismissive and derogatory. Your phrasing, and especially the adjectives you use with the term, are what makes your use of the term dismissive and derogatory.

Please explain how "...nothing but..." is a positive and glowing descriptor. Then, if you can pass that, please explain how the blanket statement "...they aren't really very talented..." is even a neutral description.
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Oh good Lord, give it up already. Unless you're dumb, you know what I mean.
 
AGENT J said:
Britney was a judge on X-factor last year or the year before that and now i think i heard on the radio she'll be on american idol
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I was talking about her career in music. You cannot tell me that Brittany has not lost popularity and fans, and will continue to do so. All of those shows are known for taking bygone celebrities anyways.
 
Gathomas88 said:
She did this a couple years ago.



I think it was on the radio for all of five minutes. The only real reason it comes to mind is because the gay guy who lived a couple of doors down from me overseas liked to listen to it a lot. :lol:

She also had the following "hit" earlier this year.



That's really more his song than hers though, and it's sort of objectively terrible "lowest common denominator" tripe either way regardless.

Honestly, modern Britney seems to have become one of those niche acts (like Madonna, for instance) that are only really popular among gays and a handful of other more "flamboyantly" inclined demographics more than anything else.
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Brittany is not a talented singer. Everything is synthesized.

The Rise of the Synthesized Voice

 
AGENT J said:
just for the record you posted a pic of Gizmo, gizmo is a mogwai, which is what a gremlin used to ben but then you posted an earlier "hanna" pic so i guess thats perfect, mogwai = hanna, gremlin = miley

this is a gremlin
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That looks more like Miley anyway. :lol:
 
ChrisL said:
Oh good Lord, give it up already. Unless you're dumb, you know what I mean.
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Yes, I know what you mean. You just don't like that I know what you mean and had the audacity to call you on it.

Thanks for the subtle ad hominem attack, btw. That was a fitting end to this portion of the thread. Carry on. :)
 
poweRob said:
Spears seems to be doing well now in her career. I think she's a judge on one of those (****ing awful) reality talent shows and still sings. She did have it rough there for a while though.
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She still has it rough, Rob; she's mentally ill and has a conservator (her father, but I think the hope is that her "boyfriend," who is also her paid minder, can eventually assume this role.) I agree with you, though, that she's really moving forward. She's off whatever that show is, I think, but I saw pics just a day or so ago of her leaving her dance studio. And her little boys are beautiful.
 
ChrisL said:
I was talking about her career in music. You cannot tell me that Brittany has not lost popularity and fans, and will continue to do so. All of those shows are known for taking bygone celebrities anyways.
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wasnt claiming anything just giving an fyi she was on TV, easy tiger! ;) lol
 
Britney still has a few saving graces. For example, she's bisexual...and hot chicks who are bisexual is always a good thing.
 
nota bene said:
She still has it rough, Rob; she's mentally ill and has a conservator (her father, but I think the hope is that her "boyfriend," who is also her paid minder, can eventually assume this role.) I agree with you, though, that she's really moving forward. She's off whatever that show is, I think, but I saw pics just a day or so ago of her leaving her dance studio. And her little boys are beautiful.
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She's mental alright. Apparently that doesn't mean anything to some people though.
 
I think I stopped listening to any new music back in the '80's.
 
AGENT J said:
wasnt claiming anything just giving an fyi she was on TV, easy tiger! ;) lol
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Just saying. :2razz: Sorry if I come across as sounding bitchy on line. I'm not trying to be.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
She's mental alright. Apparently that doesn't mean anything to some people though.
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is it weird that when she was bald headed and freaking out, spitting and hitting that car with the umbrella I wasn't thinking about her? I couldn't help but think, DAMN thats one hell of an umbrella, ive never owned an umbrella that i could beat off a car and it just not break in pieces, where does one get an umbrella that strong, that could be a commercial.

Agent Js umbrellas . . . . even crazy proof

is that wrong?
 
keith said:
I think I stopped listening to any new music back in the '80's.
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That's why I listen to classic rock, thrash metal, etc... I don't care for pop much at all.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
That's why I listen to classic rock, thrash metal, etc... I don't care for pop much at all.
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I got my classic country and classic rock stations and a few CDs of albums from the 70's and early 80's (Queen, Rush, Led Zeppelin, Lynyrd Skynyrd)
 
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